Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.

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SECOND

Monday, March 25, 2019 4:18 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
As much as I loathed dubya, I never even considered that the FBI-CIA-NSA-DIA-DOJ-MI6 should collude in a coup to removed a Constitutionally elected US President. By the tempo of leaked, unverified accusations it was clear to me we were being "WMD'd" over .TRUMP.RUSSIA.ELECTION.COLLUSION. And as the investigation went on and the fish were smaller and less savory, it was obvious the barrel had been fished-out. What was going on was pretty obvious. After rolling out the accusations, Mueller was put in place to remove Trump.

The question is - did the people here actually believe that Trump colluded with Russia? Or were they so deranged by hate they were willing engage in an illegitimate dictatorial coup just to get rid of him?

rue/1kiki: If any of the 6 groups you mentioned ( FBI-CIA-NSA-DIA-DOJ-MI6 ) staged a coup, they could create false evidence on paper or video more convincing than real evidence for an impeachment. Then there is always murder: Remember the Kennedy Assassination conspiracy? On Firefly, killing solves problems. Mal staged an "accidental" death of Jayne at the main airlock. Then Jayne talked his way out of an execution. CIA could blow up Mar-a-Lago and make it look like N Korea did it with a nuke on a boat just off shore of Trump's club. That is coup.
www.history.com/news/why-the-public-stopped-believing-the-government-a
bout-jfks-murder
https://warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/features/indira-gandhi-assassinati
on/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Monday, March 25, 2019 5:51 PM

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I agree Thg. This is not so simple a fix. What people are failing to understand is that many of the norms of our democracy have been scattered to the four winds. Lady Liberty, holding up her torch of freedom, has been raped and left for dead. All in the name of GREED.

What YOU fail to realize, SHINY, is that Lady Liberty is the victim of serial rape by multiple Presidents and Congresspeople of both parties over decades.

Do you honestly think that GREED IN OFFICE just began two years ago? If you do .... how fucking stupid ARE you?

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Mueller has completed his investigation without interviewing the president or his children. Also without charging or even indicting the president.

Because ... he did not find EVIDENCE to charge or indict.

Man, you just don't "get it", do you? You're so convinced that Trump colluded, or obstructed justice, or SOMEthing, that the facts just don't get in your way. IF there was collusion, it would have left EVIDENCE. Since the NSA was snooping in on Trump and his campaign team, don't you think they would have found SOMEthing?

But here's a flaw in the investigation that nobody mentioned: Mueller repeats without question the oft-repeated mantra of Russia "hacking" the DNC server and once again repeats the oft-repeated mantra that Assange spread the Russian-obtain Podesta emails without ever once interviewing Assange - who has repeated more than once that the source was NOT Russia. But if Russia didn't "hack" the USA election, how can Trump possibly have "colluded"? There is no "quid pro quo", no possible "this for that" because "that" never occurred. The USA deep state is so dead-set against justice for Assange that they refuse to even interview him in an acceptable forum so that he can provide evidence for his innocence.

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Really, I came to expect this, especially when Barr was hand-delivered by Congress to the president. What else is new, the man literally wrote that he would find in favor of the president, way before Mueller had even concluded his findings. I am not surprised, although I heard that Trump's lawyers were - especially Giuliani.

Seems like you just shot down your argument. After all, if "the fix was in" then the results should have been accepted as a matter of course. Apparently you dismiss YOUR OWN logic.

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We need to resolve to ourselves that this is a sign of the times. Even as the
finding by Mueller is "found no collusion" but "we didn't exonerate" on obstruction, you will hear people say - "no collusion, no obstruction." What we the people need is the full report, plain and simple. We need to hear from Mueller, and Barr. How did he come to that conclusion, especially after a nearly 2-year investigation, how is it that he came to his decision in light of the fact that Mueller deferred to DOJ in the final analysis. What went into his (Barr's) thinking? What were Mueller's thoughts and did Rosenstein just go along with the AG.

Mueller did to Trump what Comey did to Hillary, which was a bad precedent. A prosecutor should either indict and shut up, or don't indict and shut up.

*****

I have NO DOUBT that Trump is guilty of financial crimes and ran his foundation as a personal piggy-bank, just as I have NO DOUBT that Hillary (among other things) ran a "pay to play" operation from the State Department and that she and Bill ran THEIR foundation as a personal piggy-bank and that Bill is a serial sexual predator.

IMHO just about everyone in office in DC is corrupt, and to pretend that this just started happening two years ago is so asinine it beggars contemplation. IF there were any justice in our "justice" system, half of our politicians would be in jail and there would be a lot less money in politics. But such is our "justice system" that it tolerates outright corruption and only punishes the outsider.

If yo

SECOND

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

IMHO just about everyone in office in DC is corrupt, and to pretend that this just started happening two years ago is so asinine it beggars contemplation. IF there were any justice in our "justice" system, half of our politicians would be in jail and there would be a lot less money in politics. But such is our "justice system" that it tolerates outright corruption and only punishes the outsider.

If you want REAL justice you would apply the laws evenly and without favor, but ... you don't. So don't come crying to us about "justice" and "Lady Liberty" and "greed" because - coming from you - that's just a sick, stupid joke.

Nice rant! Do you recommend that Americans solve this problem with mass assassination of politicians? Or, taking it down a notch, Americans take more interest in voting in primaries, selecting candidates that aren't obviously defective morally? Next time, choose Ted Cruz, the lesser of two evils, over Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:12 PM

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Nice rant! Do you recommend that Americans solve this problem with mass assassination of politicians? Or, taking it down a notch, Americans take more interest in voting in primaries, selecting candidates that aren't obviously defective morally? Next time, choose Ted Cruz, the lesser of two evils, over Trump.

Nice asinine post SECOND.

We have a SYSTEMS problem, not a "morals" one. Try thinking about that for a change.

My god, but you're stupid. And a liar. But most of all, you're religious: You have your delusions and nothing will shake them from you. So "thinking" ... for you? Not an option!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

REAVERFAN

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:29 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You're really looking to the fringe lefty sources to keep pushing your narrative here, aren't you Marcos?

The source is irrelevant. Just the factuality of the article. This is a case where it's spot-on. Mueller did indeed hand off several investigations to other entitities.

SECOND

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:45 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Nice asinine post SECOND.

We have a SYSTEMS problem, not a "morals" one. Try thinking about that for a change.

My god, but you're stupid. And a liar. But most of all, you're religious: You have your delusions and nothing will shake them from you. So "thinking" ... for you? Not an option!

In the past, I didn't wait for the Vietnamese legal system to solve a dilemma I faced. I solved it all by myself with a machine gun. I did not wait years for an investigation to start or a final report. And there was no appeals process. If God or Karma disagreed with my decision, both are taking their time to let me know how they feel. But I feel that I permanently smoothed out a problem and I take pride in being effective and decisive. There were no unexpected consequences, unlike here:
https://warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/features/indira-gandhi-assassinati
on/

I'm not going to smooth out the problem of Trump because if he gets reelected, I am guaranteed more tax cuts: "The government set a record with a $234 billion deficit in February"
www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/the-government-ran-a-544-billi
on-deficit-over-the-first-5-months-of-the-fiscal-year/2019/03/22/932d3438-4cc8-11e9-9663-00ac73f49662_story.html

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The government spent $234 billion more than it brought in through tax receipts last month, much more than the deficit levels hit during the global financial crisis.

President Mike Pence would not be irresponsible like Trump nor as helpful to the rich.

I won't vote for Trump, but I hope Donald J Trump gives himself and me many more tax cuts.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

REAVERFAN

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:09 PM

Bill Barr’s Weasel Words
All the ways the attorney general is spinning the Mueller report to protect Trump.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-report-barr-summar
y-obstruction-conspiracy-close-reading.html

SECOND

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:38 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Bill Barr’s Weasel Words
All the ways the attorney general is spinning the Mueller report to protect Trump.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-report-barr-summar
y-obstruction-conspiracy-close-reading.html

Trump's appointee, Barr, made Trump look good. That is expected.

In a thousand tweets and comments, Trump was angry at Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed Mueller. Trump was even more angry at Attorney General Jeff Sessions for allowing Mueller to investigate. Trump attacked Mueller thousands of times. Mueller kept to his job. What Mueller actually wrote is important. What Barr wrote about Mueller's report is unimportant, except to Trump, who says Mueller completely exonerated Trump of all lawlessness. Mueller and his report did not do what Trump said it does.

Trump's attacks on Sessions, Rosenstein, Mueller are all information about Trump being afraid. Trump said nothing true about these men. He said nothing true about the report because he has not seen it. But Trump said in many words that Trump committed crimes that he won't be going on trial for.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Monday, March 25, 2019 8:00 PM

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Originally posted by rue:

Yep SGG, you have Trump dead to rights. Guilty of collusion before a verdict, or an arrest, or even an indictment. THAT'S American justice!

Do you think Mueller should be investigated now too, or what? After all, he must OBVIOUSLY be in SOMEbody's pocket!

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, March 25, 2019 8:20 PM

LOL...

At this point, I think JSF is right.

Why feed the trolls. They just lost, and the last two years of bitching and hoping and praying were completely wasted.

They're just losers at this point.

It would be funny if it wasn't so very, very sad.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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