Discussion of Alita: Battle Angel
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UPDATED: Saturday, July 27, 2019 17:51
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Originally posted by second:
The chances of a second Alita movie
https://comicbook.com/anime/2019/03/01/alita-battle-angel-box-office-s
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Alita now finds itself alongside another anime-inspired blockbuster film, which also struggled with the question of whether there was franchise potential: Pacific Rim. That film also scored well at the international box office ($309M) and did well enough domestically ($101M), but due to the film's $190M budget, it was deemed a risk for full franchise rollout. It would take half a decade before Pacific Rim: Uprising arrived in theaters.
If there's one last lesson to learn from Pacific Rim, it may be this: once the visual effects designs get done the first time around, it's much easier to implement them in a sequel. A lower budget could be all the swaying Fox needs. See the lower cost for the sequel:
Pacific Rim (2013) Production Budget: $190 million
Pacific Rim 2 (2018) Production Budget: $150 million
www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=pacificrim.htm
www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=pacificrim2.htm
Alita (2019) Production Budget: $170 million
Alita 2 (2022) Imaginary Budget: less than $130 million
www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=alita.htm
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
It's kind of a shame that the public isn't privy to the marketing budgets for these movies. I've heard that a rule of thumb for blockbusters is that whatever the production budget is for a movie, expect the marketing budget to match.
If that's true, then in the case of Pacific Rim, I could see where the fear was. $190 million on production and another $190 million on advertising for $380 million, vs a final world take of $408 million. Not very good. But on the other hand, I'm sure they put value into considering how much they can make off of licensing these properties for streaming services as well as BluRay sales after the fact. It still made quite a bit of money.
I don't ever watch TV except for on a break at work. I've heard that Alita hardly got any advertising compared to what they're putting into Captain Marvel.
I'm sure that the "double the costs for marketing" rule is not even close to set in stone.
Oh... then you have to also factor in kids toys (ahem... action figures). They are not doing well these days. Used to be a time where they were an expected huge source of alternative revenue for a blockbuster movie.... Especially for a franchise like Star Wars.
Not anymore. Disney and Hasbro have lost a ton of money on the collectable market in the last few years. Some blame that for being the final nail in Toys R Us's coffin, although I've never seen any data to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Rumor has the budget for Captain Marvel at $152M.
How does that rate 10x the ad campaign of Alita?
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STOP THE PRESSES!!! I agree with you 100% Rappy. On the lack of explanation about the eyes, but that they are beautiful - hence, the Battle Angel moniker.
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:]Did you find, in the Canon within the film, adequate explanation for Alita's eyes?
If there was , I missed it. I've heard several explanations, from it was done to set her apart from the humans, to ' just because it's in the manga ', but if there was a MOVIE explanation, I didn't catch it.
Will have to re-watch anyways, so I'll try to pay closer attention.
IDK about anyone else, but I find her eyes freaking beautiful, and they don't bother me 1 bit.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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Big eyes are an evolutionary feature which adults find 'cute ', and that helps them decide on sticking around and care for their young.
I also think Mantis's eyes in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 are attractive, for the same reasons. Drax's comment that ' she's hideous ' is funny because universally everyone else sees her as attractive.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Ido did, early on, refer to her as Angel, or his Angel. Possibly complicated by his naming her Alita after his daughter.
Angel could help describe the Forces of Good which alight the sword Blue when she handles it, and when evil is in her presence.
As Michael explained in his titular role, Angels are warriors and fighters for the heavens.
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“Alita: Battle Angel” is believed to be the most expensive movie ever shot in Texas. Texas taxpayers will foot some of the bill — likely millions of dollars. Tax incentives reportedly brought that gargantuan budget down to around $170 million. The special-effects-heavy film about a cyborg who awakens more than 500 years in the future reportedly cost more than $200 million to make. It was shot in Dallas and at Rodriguez’s Troublemaker Studios in Austin. State officials still are calculating the total grant to be awarded to the production through the Texas Moving Image Industry Incentive Program.
Workers in Texas’ film and television production industry are tracking “Alita’s” box office in the hope that it will be big enough to attract other high-dollar productions — and convince lawmakers that the state’s film subsidies, long a target of conservative budget-cutters, are a worthwhile investment.
“Hopefully, ‘Alita’s’ success at the box office will be married with success at the Legislature,” said Brian Gannon, director of the Austin Film Commission.
Under the program, Texas issues cash grants to companies that spend a certain amount on goods in-state and if 70 percent of the production’s cast and crew is made up of Texas residents.
For films and television shows, the state can reimburse costs of up to 20 percent of a production’s budget. At least 60 percent of a production’s shooting days must take place in Texas to qualify for incentives. According to the latest available data from the Texas Film Commission, it covered about 14 percent of the costs of more than $1 billion worth of productions in Texas.
More at www.expressnews.com/business/local/article/Alita-Battle-Angel-cost-200
-million-to-13640231.php
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Hey, second. Thanks for funding Alita for us shlubs.
Originally posted by second:
“Alita: Battle Angel” is believed to be the most expensive movie ever shot in Texas. Texas taxpayers will foot some of the bill — likely millions of dollars. Tax incentives reportedly brought that gargantuan budget down to around $170 million. The special-effects-heavy film about a cyborg who awakens more than 500 years in the future reportedly cost more than $200 million to make. It was shot in Dallas and at Rodriguez’s Troublemaker Studios in Austin. State officials still are calculating the total grant to be awarded to the production through the Texas Moving Image Industry Incentive Program.
Workers in Texas’ film and television production industry are tracking “Alita’s” box office in the hope that it will be big enough to attract other high-dollar productions — and convince lawmakers that the state’s film subsidies, long a target of conservative budget-cutters, are a worthwhile investment.
“Hopefully, ‘Alita’s’ success at the box office will be married with success at the Legislature,” said Brian Gannon, director of the Austin Film Commission.
Under the program, Texas issues cash grants to companies that spend a certain amount on goods in-state and if 70 percent of the production’s cast and crew is made up of Texas residents.
For films and television shows, the state can reimburse costs of up to 20 percent of a production’s budget. At least 60 percent of a production’s shooting days must take place in Texas to qualify for incentives. According to the latest available data from the Texas Film Commission, it covered about 14 percent of the costs of more than $1 billion worth of productions in Texas.
More at www.expressnews.com/business/local/article/Alita-Battle-Angel-cost-200
-million-to-13640231.php
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Yes, agreed.
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Ido did, early on, refer to her as Angel, or his Angel. Possibly complicated by his naming her Alita after his daughter.
Angel could help describe the Forces of Good which alight the sword Blue when she handles it, and when evil is in her presence.
As Michael explained in his titular role, Angels are warriors and fighters for the heavens.
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Quote:So far, everybody I've read has said they will see it another time. I have not decided if I'll see it a third time yet. My first 2 times were in different theaters, with different style of seating - normal stadium, and recliner.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, agreed.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Ido did, early on, refer to her as Angel, or his Angel. Possibly complicated by his naming her Alita after his daughter.
Angel could help describe the Forces of Good which alight the sword Blue when she handles it, and when evil is in her presence.
As Michael explained in his titular role, Angels are warriors and fighters for the heavens.
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Quote:When you divide the multi-million dollar Texas taxpayers' subsidy for Alita by the population of Texas, it is less than the Texas sales tax on my movie ticket. So my ticket paid the government funding for Alita. If even half of all Texans patriotically bought a ticket, there would definitely be a sequel made in Texas.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Hey, second. Thanks for funding Alita for us shlubs.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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