Inside the secret troll army of ... Britain!
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Britain!
I've posted before that the UK is the source of much malicious information-warfare material. From the MI6 "assessment" that the Iraq had WMD (which was used as the basis for OUR intelligence "assessment" that Iraq had WMD!) to the "Steele dossier" to the "white Helmets", it seems that when our intelligence agencies want something, British intelligence is all-too-happy to cook it up for them. That way there's "plausible deniability" on our side. (And I'm sure OUR intelligence agencies provide the same service to MI6.)
Beware "intelligence" from Britain!
And now ...
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Inside the British Army's secret information warfare machine
A barbed-wire fence stretched off far to either side. A Union flag twisted in a gust of wind, and soldiers strode in and out of a squat guard’s hut in the middle of the road. Through the hut, and under a row of floodlights, I walked towards a long line of drab, low-rise brick buildings. It was the summer of 2017, and on this military base nestled among the hills of Berkshire, I was visiting a part of the British Army unlike any other. They call it the 77th Brigade. They are the troops fighting Britain’s information wars.
“If everybody is thinking alike then somebody isn’t thinking,” was written in foot-high letters across a whiteboard in one of the main atriums of the base. Over to one side, there was a suite full of large, electronic sketch pads and multi-screened desktops loaded with digital editing software. The men and women of the 77th knew how to set up cameras, record sound, edit videos. Plucked from across the military, they were proficient in graphic design, social media advertising, and data analytics. Some may have taken the army’s course in Defence Media Operations, and almost half were reservists from civvy street, with full time jobs in marketing or consumer research.
From office to office, I found a different part of the Brigade busy at work. One room was focussed on understanding audiences: the makeup, demographics and habits of the people they wanted to reach. Another was more analytical, focussing on creating “attitude and sentiment awareness” from large sets of social media data. Another was full of officers producing video and audio content. Elsewhere, teams of intelligence specialists were closely analysing how messages were being received and discussing how to make them more resonant.
Explaining their work, the soldiers used phrases I had heard countless times from digital marketers: “key influencers", “reach", “traction". You normally hear such words at viral advertising studios and digital research labs. But the skinny jeans and wax moustaches were here replaced by the crisply ironed shirts and light patterned camouflage of the British Army. Their surroundings were equally incongruous – the 77th’s headquarters were a mix of linoleum flooring, long corridors and swinging fire doors. More Grange Hill than Menlo Park. Next to a digital design studio, soldiers were having a tea break, a packet of digestives lying open on top of a green metallic ammo box. Another sign on the wall declared, “Behavioural change is our USP [unique selling point]”. What on Earth was happening?
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“If you track where UK manpower is deployed, you can take a good guess at where this kind of ‘influence’ activity happens,” an information warfare officer (not affiliated with the 77th) told me later, under condition of anonymity.
“A document will come from the Ministry of Defence that will have broad guidance and themes to follow.” He explains that each military campaign now also has – or rather is – a marketing campaign too.
Ever since Nato troops were deployed to the Baltics in 2017, Russian propaganda has been deployed too, alleging that Nato soldiers there are rapists, looters, little different from a hostile occupation. One of the goals of Nato information warfare was to counter this kind of threat: sharply rebutting damaging rumours, and producinNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
And yet many, even here, readily admit that when they find a source or reference that THEY KNOW are lying to them endlessly, they insist on returning to that trough while avoiding honest, factual, and truthful sources.
How else do npr, vox, CNN, motherjones, Snopes, wikipedia, pbs continue?
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Quote:MORE AT https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/21/exc-mi6-battling-donald-tr
MI6 battling to stop Donald Trump releasing classified Russia probe documents
I6 chiefs are secretly battling Donald Trump to stop him publishing classified information linked to the Russian election meddling investigation.
The UK is warning that the US president would undermine intelligence gathering if he releases pages of an FBI application to wiretap one of his former campaign advisers.
However Trump allies are fighting back, demanding transparency and asking why Britain would oppose the move unless it had something to hide. ...
ump-release-classified-russia-probe/amp/
Not a new story, just an indication that the battle over "Russiagate" is still going on.
Since the House will be turned over to Dems in January, Dems will drop any investigation of FBI/CIA/WH/Clinton/MI6 malfeasance* like a hot potato, leaving investigation/ exposure of the deep-state to either the WH (declassify and release) or to the DOJ, either continuing Huber's remit or appointing another prosecutor. I imagine that declassification and release would expose SUCH a can of worms that this might be something even Trump would be reluctant to do.
For example, I have heard - more than once- that the NSA has a giant database of illegally-gathered information on pretty much everyone of any importance/ interest (Remember that big data center in Utah? It wasn't built for shits and giggles.) and that they share that information with the CIA, FBI, local PDs etc. The TRICK is to create some sort of plausible investigatory pathway by which that information might have been discovered legally, obtaining paper-thin warrants or "turning" relatively unimportant people to develop a string of "evidence" which will lead them to the desired result.
Also, the UK seems pretty accommodating at just making stuff up, and MI6 and the CIA and FBI seem adept at looping the material into larger and larger importance, taking something that is (in essence) a made-up story, then questioning someone about it, then leaking the story, then using the leak to investigate further. Or creating "sting" operations to net the unwary innocent (called "entrapment").
Seems like exposure of those kinds of operations would create all kinds of havoc, even with important and legitimate intelligence-gathering.
*MALFEASANCE: (legal definition) illegal or dishonest activity especially by a public official or a corporation
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It's fun to watch you struggle.
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Trying to turn another good thread into your own personal crap-holes again? It must be because you two trolls never have anything OT to post. Nope. You are a never ending stream of smelly lies and personal attacks. Crap is your very being.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Trying to turn another good thread into your own personal crap-holes again?
You must be talking to SIGHOLE. She loves to fill up FFF.net with these BS Clinton! Obama! fake news, tin foil hat threads.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Trying to turn another good thread into your own personal crap-holes again?
You must be talking to SIGHOLE. She loves to fill up FFF.net with these BS Clinton! Obama! fake news, tin foil hat threads.
Yep
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Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two.
Fucking dummies
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Quote:I wonder if the idea bonks anybody on the head there that they're engaged in propagandizing the citizens of many so-called democracies. Oh well ... on with the show ...
a part of the British Army the 77th Brigade "fighting" Britain’s information wars
Quote:Contrast that with the old army saying 'the nail that sticks up gets hammered down'. I'm sure they don't tolerate divergent thinking, no matter what the words on the whiteboard are.
“If everybody is thinking alike then somebody isn’t thinking,” was written in foot-high letters across a whiteboard in one of the main atriums of the base.
Quote:OK. They're already good with lying for a living.
the 77th knew how to set up cameras, record sound, edit videos. Plucked from across the military, they were proficient in graphic design, social media advertising, and data analytics. Some may have taken the army’s course in Defence Media Operations, and almost half were reservists from civvy street, with full time jobs in marketing or consumer research.
Quote:A full-service propaganda shop. And who sets the themes?
From office to office, I found a different part of the Brigade busy at work. One room was focussed on understanding audiences: the makeup, demographics and habits of the people they wanted to reach. Another was more analytical, focussing on creating “attitude and sentiment awareness” from large sets of social media data. Another was full of officers producing video and audio content. Elsewhere, teams of intelligence specialists were closely analysing how messages were being received and discussing how to make them more resonant. Another sign on the wall declared, “Behavioural change is our USP [unique selling point]”.
Quote:God forbid citizens should be able to think for themselves.
“A document will come from the Ministry of Defence that will have broad guidance and themes to follow.” ... each military campaign now also has – or rather is – a marketing campaign too.
Quote:Because ... simple experience and reality isn't good enough?
Ever since Nato troops were deployed to the Baltics in 2017, Russian propaganda has been deployed too, alleging that Nato soldiers there are rapists, looters, little different from a hostile occupation. One of the goals of Nato information warfare was to counter this kind of threat: sharply rebutting damaging rumours, and producing videos of Nato troops happily working with Baltic hosts.
Quote:Disinformation campaigns
But messaging campaigns could become “grey” and “black” too. There, the messaging doesn't have to look like it came from the military and doesn't have to necessarily tell the truth.
Quote:Maybe the word information should be in quotes, as in - "information."
GCHQ also has a unit dedicated to fighting wars with information.
Quote:And all because your democratic government doesn't want you to know what's going on, or to believe the truth if it stumbles out, or to think for yourself.
Almost all we know about it comes from a series of slides leaked by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden in 2013. Those documents give us a glimpse of what these kinds of covert information campaigns could look like.
According to the slides, JTRIG was in the business of discrediting companies, by passing “confidential information to the press through blogs etc.”, and by posting negative information on internet forums. They could change someone’s social media photos (“can take ‘paranoia’ to a whole new level”, a slide read.) They could use masquerade-type techniques – that is: placing “secret” information on a compromised computer. They could bombard someone’s phone with text messages or calls.
Quote:Yes, let's lie to entire countries.
“Clean Sweep” would impersonate Facebook wall posts for individuals or entire countries. “Gateway” gave the ability to “artificially increase traffic to a website”. “Underpass” was a way to change the outcome of online polls.
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Quote:I had thought about starting a thread comparing the beliefs of the past 2 years from Democrats and then those of normal people. But I wouldn't be able to do it justice. I haven't kept track of all the finagled deceptions and lies of the Obamabots, fabricated solely to cover up their Criminal activity, yet none of it comprehended by Libtards.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:MORE AT https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/21/exc-mi6-battling-donald-tr
MI6 battling to stop Donald Trump releasing classified Russia probe documents
I6 chiefs are secretly battling Donald Trump to stop him publishing classified information linked to the Russian election meddling investigation.
The UK is warning that the US president would undermine intelligence gathering if he releases pages of an FBI application to wiretap one of his former campaign advisers.
However Trump allies are fighting back, demanding transparency and asking why Britain would oppose the move unless it had something to hide. ...
ump-release-classified-russia-probe/amp/
Not a new story, just an indication that the battle over "Russiagate" is still going on.
Since the House will be turned over to Dems in January, Dems will drop any investigation of FBI/CIA/WH/Clinton/MI6 malfeasance* like a hot potato, leaving investigation/ exposure of the deep-state to either the WH (declassify and release) or to the DOJ, either continuing Huber's remit or appointing another prosecutor. I imagine that declassification and release would expose SUCH a can of worms that this might be something even Trump would be reluctant to do.
For example, I have heard - more than once- that the NSA has a giant database of illegally-gathered information on pretty much everyone of any importance/ interest (Remember that big data center in Utah? It wasn't built for shits and giggles.) and that they share that information with the CIA, FBI, local PDs etc. The TRICK is to create some sort of plausible investigatory pathway by which that information might have been discovered legally, obtaining paper-thin warrants or "turning" relatively unimportant people to develop a string of "evidence" which will lead them to the desired result.
Also, the UK seems pretty accommodating at just making stuff up, and MI6 and the CIA and FBI seem adept at looping the material into larger and larger importance, taking something that is (in essence) a made-up story, then questioning someone about it, then leaking the story, then using the leak to investigate further. Or creating "sting" operations to net the unwary innocent (called "entrapment").
Seems like exposure of those kinds of operations would create all kinds of havoc, even with important and legitimate intelligence-gathering.
*MALFEASANCE: (legal definition) illegal or dishonest activity especially by a public official or a corporation
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Do we the people need to set up our own spy agencies to figure out what our government is doing in our name?
Yes! It's called a Free Press. That's why Billy Putin and most strong-arm dictators don't want it, naturally.
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Seriously????
Quote:WHY was MI6 "desperate" to "prove" that Iraq had WMD???
Chilcot report: MI6 may have got crucial intelligence on Iraq WMDs from a Nicolas Cage film
MI6, desperate to find evidence which would prove that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction
Doesn't that sound more like a politically-motivated persecution than an inbiased investigation (which is what MI6 was SUPPOSED to be doing)?
Quote:Oh, ANOTHER "dodgy dossier"??? Whhoda thunk?
thought they had at last struck gold – a source with “phenomenal access” to the highest echelons of the Iraqi regime, one who would be the “key to unlock” the secrets of a chemical and biological arsenal.
The prized undercover “asset” not only confirmed that the WMD programme was going full blast but that the regime was actually building more facilities. The head of MI6, Sir Richard Dearlove, was confident that the man would even produce a “CD with everything in it.” Under the circumstances the service’s reporting of a “ significant breakthrough” seemed, if anything, to be an understatement.
Doubts, however, began to creep in. One MI6 officer pointed out that the source’s description of the device and its spherical glass contents was “ remarkably similar to the fictional chemical weapons portrayed in the film The Rock”. In the film, according to the blurb which accompanied it, a FBI chemical warfare agent, played by Nicolas Cage, is sent on a mission with a British spy, Sean Connery to stop a mad general, Ed Harris, from launching chemical weapons on Alcatraz Island into San Francisco.
Nevertheless, what the Iraqi agent had to say played an important part in the conclusions of the dodgy dossier
Quote:Because it was being "stovepiped" to support a geopolitical agenda, and nobody wanted any of those inconvenient doubts and awkward questions festering.
on Iraq’s WMD. Crucially, the material was not shown to the real experts on the subject, the scientific analysts of DIS
Quote:Blare the lie with accompanying brass fanfare; withdraw it quietly in the middle of the night.
( Defence intelligence Staff) by the JIC ( Joint Intelligence Committee) who were putting the document together.
The Chilcot report points out that “ The SIS ( MI6) report should have been shown to relevant experts in the DIS who could have advised their senior managers and assessment staff. Expert officials in the DIS questioned the certainty with which some of the judgments in the dossier were expressed.”
The inquiry also noted "Sir Richard Dearlove's personal intervention, and its urgency, gave added weight to a report that had not been properly evaluated and would have coloured the perception of ministers and senior officials. The report should have been treated with caution”.
The great scoop was unraveling fast. It was noted by MI6 on 2nd February 2003 that the source had failed to provide the information expected. By 18th February, the man was being described in MI6 notes as a liar who had been misleading them for a long time. But MI6 failed to tell others involved in producing the dossier about the debacle. Reports from the Iraqi was still being issued in April, a month after the war had begun.
MI6 finally met the source in June 2003. He had only been involved in Iraq’s chemical programme, in a minor capacity, before 1991. He denied providing any of the tantalizing material attributed to him. MI6 "concluded that its source was a fabricator who had lied from the outset". In July 2003, the “ intelligence” was officially withdrawn. The Chilcot Inquiry noted "the withdrawal of the reporting was done in a very low key manner compared with the way in which the original intelligence was issued’’.
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The withdrawl of the “evidence” was not known by ministers giving evidence to the inquiry by Lord Hutton into the death of Dr David Kelly in 2004, but was known by them at the time of inquiry by Lord Butler in the samNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:It sure would be great if we had one!
Yes! It's called a Free Press
'Cause all I see is a "bought-and-paid-for" press!
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:It sure would be great if we had one!
Yes! It's called a Free Press
'Cause all I see is a "bought-and-paid-for" press!
That's certainly true of TrumpTV/Fux. Hannity has been on stage with Trump as a side kick at his rallies, and they have an ex Fox executive on the Trump payroll. But others? You keep saying that they're "bought-and-paid-for" and yet you have never shown any proof and have a completely unconvincing argument. It's like you are just making it up to agitate and be contrary. Unless... you have some cites? Trumptards seem to have very few citations/links to back up their claims - pretty amazing. It makes it hard to believe anything they say.
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Quote:And Facebook.
Major Psy-Op in Europe Exposed: UK Government Tramples on Values It Vowed to Protect
Those who have been saying that the West has turned Russia into a scapegoat to be blamed for each and every thing that goes wrong have been proved right. We have witnessed concocted stories invented to denigrate Moscow that have gone viral as directed by the secret services. The UK, the country that is spearheading the anti-Russian information campaign, offers a good example that illustrates how this is being done.
An online group of hackers known as Anonymous has just revealed covert UK activities in the EU. According to the documents released by that group, London is in the midst of a major program to interfere in the internal affairs of EU members, the US, and Canada. Anonymous threatens to release more information on the clandestine operations of the UK government, unless it agrees to remove the shroud of secrecy protecting those information-warfare efforts. On Nov. 24 Twitter deleted RT comments on the issue. The UK knows it has friends it can rely on in a crunch.
The Integrity Initiative is a London-based organization set up and funded by the government-friendly Institute for Statecraft, in cooperation with the Free University of Brussels (VUB) to wage information-warfare operations against Russia. Anonymous calls it a "large-scale information secret service." It aims to “change attitudes in Russia itself” as well as the influence of Russian natives living abroad. The Integrity Initiative’s budget for the fiscal year ending on March 31, 2019 is estimated at £1.96 million ($2.51 million). The network has received grants from NATO, the US State Department, and Facebook.
Quote:Ah yes! The so-called "free press"! Yanno, those intrepid investigators who
The Initiative’s operations have been kept under wraps. Its activities are conducted by “clusters” of local politicians, journalists,
Leading German Journalist Admits CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Other Leaders of the Western ‘Press’
https://washingtonsblog.com/2014/10/leading-german-journalist-admits-c
ia-bribed-leaders-western-press.html
Quote:If they've "floated" the idea then it's already underway and beginning to be exposed.
military personnel, scientists, and academics involved in anti-Russian propaganda efforts. The list includes William Browder, a US-British businessman convicted in absentia in Russia for tax evasion.
The Integrity Initiative network has offices from which to conduct its covert operations in France, Germany, Italy, Greece, the Netherlands, Lithuania, Norway, Serbia, Spain, and Montenegro. Its plans to expand to the US, Canada, Eastern Europe, and the MENA region are already underway.
The Anonymous hackers mention Operation Moncloa that was launched in June in Spain to prevent Pedro Baños, a colonel known for his Russia-friendly views, from being appointed the new head of Spain's influential national security agency.
It’s all part of a broader picture. In March, Prime Minister Theresa May promised to “defeat” Russia with a new cyber-warfare initiative titled the Fusion Doctrine. Back then, Ms. May told British intelligence services to use social media “to prevent the spread of misinformation.” In other words, she has pulled the military into this anti-Russian propaganda effort. Security sources have floated the idea that that the UK must harness “soft power” and “counter-propaganda” on social media networks.
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Is it possible to imagine any media remaining independent in a country where they're part of a "soft power strategy" implemented by the government under the rallying cry of protecting national security?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Major Psy-Op in Europe Exposed: UK Government Tramples on Values It Vowed to Protect
SIGGY propaganda text dump goes here:
Someone named "Anonymous" crying out for full public disclosure.
Damn, SIGNUT! You owe me a keyboard!Well, apart from all the obvious lies and the over reach and logic fails...
- where are these documents? "According to the documents released by that group..." A simple link would be easy, no?
- using the threat of nuclear war to validate actions - which the German journalist says is what the American aristocracy wants. Why would anyone with money want a nuclear war? The market crashes and their wealth disappears. I can think of no one more determined to keep any war from happening than the wealthy and the privileged.
One country using "propaganda" to defend itself from another country that is using propaganda to attack it. Gee, who would I root for? And you come down on the Russian side?
Shocking! < / sarcasm >
Apart from all that... thanks for the sh*tty article!
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Oh, looks like The Guardian (another British paper!) got caught in another lie!
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Manafort held secret talks with Assange in Ecuadorian embassy, sources say
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/27/manafort-held-secret-t
alks-with-assange-in-ecuadorian-embassy
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WikiLeaks Categorically Denies Assange-Manafort Meetings
Update: WikiLeaks has fired back at the Guardian, tweeting: "Remember this day when the Guardian permitted a serial fabricator to totally destroy the paper's reputation. @WikiLeaks is willing to bet the Guardian a million dollars and its editor's head that Manafort never met Assange."
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-27/manafort-met-secret-julian-a
ssange-ecuadorian-embassy-report
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Joint Information Activities Group (JIAG)
JIAG provides specialist information activities training, operational delivery capability and capacity building for defence and other government departments.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-defence-media-operations-centre-dmoc
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The UK National Security Capability Review and the Fusion Doctrine
https://rusi.org/commentary/uk-national-security-capability-review-and
-fusion-doctrine
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Theresa May: UK will use ‘every capability at our disposal’ to defeat enemies
... “Crucially, what all of these incidents have made clear is that our national security is conditional on not only the police and security services who work so hard to keep us safe at home, or on the brave men and women of our armed forces working tirelessly around the world – but on our ability to mobilise most effectively the full range of our capabilities in concert to respond to the challenges we face.”
New investment in a £1.9 billion cyber security strategy announced earlier this year will see the team dedicated to combatting misinformation from hostile states like Russia expanded...
More resources will be put into the UK’s network of embassies and high commission to strengthen Britain’s ability to project soft power.
“Based on the new Fusion Doctrine, this approach will ensure that in defending our national security we make better use of all of our capabilities: from economic levers, through cutting-edge military resources to our wider diplomatic and cultural influence on the world’s stage,” Mrs May adds. “Every part of our government and every one of our agencies has its part to play.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/theresa-may-uk-will-use-every-c
apability-at-our-disposal-to-defeat-enemies-1-4713903
“Integrity Initiative” Exposed as UK Special Ops vs EU Countries. Message from The ANONYMOUS Charity
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“Integrity Initiative” Exposed as UK Special Ops vs. EU Countries
https://geopolitics.co/2018/11/23/integrity-initiative-exposed-as-uk-s
pecial-ops-vs-eu-countries/
Moncloa Campaign 6 AttTwitter_08.06.18
https://www.scribd.com/document/392195691/Moncloa-Campaign-6-AttTwitte
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Quote:If you'd gone to the 1996 movie "The Rock,” you would have suspected that MI6's Iraq assessment was phony baloney. Nicolas Cage, playing an FBI chemical warfare specialist, joins Sean Connery, playing a former British spy, to prevent chemical weapons being launched against San Francisco.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Britain!
I've posted before that the UK is the source of much malicious information-warfare material. From the MI6 "assessment" that the Iraq had WMD (which was used as the basis for OUR intelligence "assessment" that Iraq had WMD!) to the "Steele dossier" to the "white Helmets", it seems that when our intelligence agencies want something, British intelligence is all-too-happy to cook it up for them. That way there's "plausible deniability" on our side. (And I'm sure OUR intelligence agencies provide the same service to MI6.)
Beware "intelligence" from Britain!
The similarity between the movie and the MI6 source’s alleged Iraq WMD device had been noted when the MI6 report was first circulated on 11 and 23 September 2002, well before the Iraq invasion in March 2003.
The faulty intelligence from MI6 was compounded by Tony Blair who hardened up the information when he wrote the foreword to the so-called “dodgy dossier” in September 2002. Chilcot concluded that Blair presented the assessments of the spy agencies to parliament with a “certainty” not justified by available intelligence.
In the foreword to the dossier presented to the public in September 2002 preparing the case for war, Blair said he believed the intelligence had “established beyond doubt” that Saddam had continued to produce WMDs.
But the Chilcot report concludes: “The assessed intelligence had not established beyond doubt that Saddam Hussein had continued to produce chemical and biological weapons.”
Chilcot blames the intelligence community not just for passing on bogus information in the first place but failing to correct the prime minister when he toughened up the so-called intelligence. Chilcot says the intelligence community worked from the start on the misguided assumption that Saddam had WMDs, saying it was “ingrained” in their thinking.
The intelligence agencies had a serious blind spot. “At no stage was the proposition that Iraq might no longer have chemical, biological or nuclear weapons or programmes identified and examined by either JIC [the Joint Intelligence Committee, the umbrella organisation representing all the intelligence agencies] or the policy community.”
The report says the flaws in the construct and the intelligence were plainly exposed after the conflict.
More at www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/mi6-stood-by-bogus-intelligenc
e-until-after-iraq-invasion
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I've posted before that the UK is the source of much malicious information-warfare material. From the MI6 "assessment" that the Iraq had WMD (which was used as the basis for OUR intelligence "assessment" that Iraq had WMD!) to the "Steele dossier" to the "white Helmets", it seems that when our intelligence agencies want something, British intelligence is all-too-happy to cook it up for them. That way there's "plausible deniability" on our side. (And I'm sure OUR intelligence agencies provide the same service to MI6.)
Beware "intelligence" from Britain! - SIGNY
If you'd gone to the 1996 movie "The Rock,” you would have suspected that MI6's Iraq assessment was phony baloney. Nicolas Cage, playing an FBI chemical warfare specialist, joins Sean Connery, playing a former British spy, to prevent chemical weapons being launched against San Francisco.- SECOND, QUOTING THE ARTICLE
Neither I nor anyone else needed to have seen "The Rock" to know that the "intelligence assessment" was a crock of shit. All anyone needed to focus on was the constantly shifting narrative as each piece of "evidence" was shot down by FACT ... the "aluminum tubes" that would never withstand centrifuge forces, the "yellowcake" agreement that was a plain forgery, the fact that Hans Blix and his team of inspectors were on the ground conducting an intrusive search and finding nothing.
Quote:seems to have summed up the giant flaw in the "intelligence ... community".
“At no stage was the proposition that Iraq might no longer have chemical, biological or nuclear weapons or programmes identified and examined by either JIC [the Joint Intelligence Committee, the umbrella organisation representing all the intelligence agencies] or the policy community.”
If this were the first -or last- time that the "intelligence communities" had made such a "mistake" I'd chalk it up to simple, stupid lack of insight: their inability to identify and question their own assumptions.
But this isn't the first or last time that the "intelligence community" has cooked up their assessments, and so I can only conclude that they deliberately lied to the government and to the public.
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The Guardian, caught - literally- making shit up.
Quote:MORE AT https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/11/opinion-the-guardians-desperate-a
Opinion: The Guardian’s Desperate Attempt To Connect Assange To Russiagate Backfires
by Elizabeth Lea Vos
The Guardian's latest attack on Julian Assange was not only a fallacious smear, it represented a desperate attempt on behalf of the British intelligence community to conflate the pending US charges against the journalist with Russiagate. ...
Hours before the (Clinton-appointed) judge in the case delaying their ruling for seven days, The Guardian lobbed an unexpected shot across the bow, claiming that: "Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort held secret talks with Julian Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and visited around the time he joined Trump’s campaign."
In the wake of the article's publication, WikiLeaks and Paul Manafort have flat-out denied that any meeting ever took place between the former Trump campaign manager and the WikiLeaks co-founder. The Courage Foundation called the allegations "fabricated," while members of Assange's legal team strongly denied the allegations. WikiLeaks soon announced the creation of a Gofundme effort, raising funds to sue The Guardian for what it called an 'entirely fabricated story.'
At the time of writing, The Guardian had already been observed modifying its claims, adding qualifiers to both the title of the article and the body of the text.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The Guardian, caught - literally- making shit up.Quote:MORE AT https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/11/opinion-the-guardians-desperate-a
Opinion: The Guardian’s Desperate Attempt To Connect Assange To Russiagate Backfires
by Elizabeth Lea Vos
The Guardian's latest attack on Julian Assange was not only a fallacious smear, it represented a desperate attempt on behalf of the British intelligence community to conflate the pending US charges against the journalist with Russiagate. ...
Hours before the (Clinton-appointed) judge in the case delaying their ruling for seven days, The Guardian lobbed an unexpected shot across the bow, claiming that: "Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort held secret talks with Julian Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and visited around the time he joined Trump’s campaign."
In the wake of the article's publication, WikiLeaks and Paul Manafort have flat-out denied that any meeting ever took place between the former Trump campaign manager and the WikiLeaks co-founder. The Courage Foundation called the allegations "fabricated," while members of Assange's legal team strongly denied the allegations. WikiLeaks soon announced the creation of a Gofundme effort, raising funds to sue The Guardian for what it called an 'entirely fabricated story.'
At the time of writing, The Guardian had already been observed modifying its claims, adding qualifiers to both the title of the article and the body of the text.
ttempt-to-connect-assange-to-russiagate-backfires/
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Fwiw, The Guardian's story made little headway in US MSM that I noticed. The 2 times I saw it referred to at all (on tv) it was always with a "if it's true" disclaimer.
In the end, shame on them - I'm glad they were caught and embarrassed. It's hard enough to get Joe Public to respect the importance and the value of the work of professional journalists, even worse when they discredit themselves.
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Speaking of making shit up whole cloth ... shame on the NYT when it ran endless stories about Iraq's "WMD" and that Saddam had ties to the 9-11 terrorists?
On the M$M for running endless stories about a Trump "dossier" that's mostly fabricated?
On pretty much every western news outlet for running with "Assad gassed how own people"?
That Qaddafi was "massacring his own people"?
That Noriega was a "notorious drug runner"?
It's not like these were little white lies, as they had serious consequences.
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At some point I wonder how much is a failure of the Queen.
England does not have any Freedom or Liberty in any Constitution.
No Freedom of the Press.
So Brits are, in theory, Voting for their Representatives without any feedback regarding how they perform in Office.
Is this the structure required for such runaway renegade disinformation operations committed by England? Would this be possible without the acquiescence of the Queen?
Is the Monarchy commencing defacto information warfare upon America, partnering with Anti-America Democrats?
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Quote:Oh, I think OUR "intelligence community" is every bit as devious as Britain's. But for some reason, the Brits have tremendous press ... maybe it's the accent, but we Americans tend to think of Brits as somehow more civilized, more honest, more grounded, and more adroit.
At some point I wonder how much is a failure of the Queen.
I imagine this is more related to The City of London ... which is not London city but the City of London Corporation ... the beating (money-laundering) financial heart of Britain, which occupies about one square mile within London city and which runs by its own rules that even the Queen can't disturb.
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/about-the-city/Pages/default.aspx
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BECAUSE TROLLING ... it's not just for Russia!
Quote:MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-14/leaked-memo-touts-uk-funded-
Leaked Memo Touts UK-Funded Firm's Ability To Create "Untraceable" News Sites For "Infowar Campaign"
The hacking collective known as "Anonymous" has published more explosive documents detailing a UK-based psyop to create a "large-scale information secret service" in Europe in order to combat "Russian propaganda" — which has been blamed for everything from Brexit to Trump winning the 2016 US election to this month's anti-Macron "Yellow Vest" protests.
We previously detailed the first trove of documents which were dumped online November 5th to the site Cyberguerilla, revealing the private UK organization with deep government ties, the Integrity Initiative, to be engaged in an aggressive campaign to organize "clusters" of journalists across the West engaged in “counter-propaganda” efforts on social media networks and in media. And now a new trove of leaked Integrity Initiative documents has been dumped online Friday.
This week the Integrity Initiative and its founding parent organization, the Institute for Statecraft — which is known for its close relationship with the UK military and defense officials — is at the center of debate in the House of Commons over its anti-Corbyn and anti-Labour smears involving labeling party leader Jeremy Corbyn a “useful idiot” for Moscow, even while the company is a recipient of official Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) funding.
The early November online leaks of confidential Integrity Initiative documents were the first to reveal the UK government's relationship to the private project devoted to "fighting Russian disinformation". According to The Guardian:
FCO funding of the Integrity Initiative was revealed by a set of stolen documents posted online last month by hackers under the banner of the Anonymous hacktivist collective. The organisation has not disputed their authenticity, but in a statement suggested that Russia was responsible for the hack and that Moscow had used its media channels to amplify its impact.
We noted previously that the work done by the Initiative — which claims it is not affiliated with government bodies, is done under "absolute secrecy via concealed contacts embedded throughout British embassies," according to memos in the November leak. It does, however, admit to working with unnamed British "government agencies."
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