Are you going to boycott "SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY"

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, June 8, 2018 5:35 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:
A thread about a SOLO boycott has turned into an argument about tax cuts...HOW!!

The Trolls also spread Comey, Hilliary, and Libtard confusion about Electoral College into the mix.

I've been wondering when you were going to adapt the title to the topics within.

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, June 8, 2018 1:09 PM

Too true Whozit. We were talking about movies and it turned into a political discussion. I'm done......let's get back on topic, shall we!?

So no, to the boycott is all I'm saying. Not for me. Although I do get that Kennedy and Johnson must go; but perhaps it may work because Disney does care about the bottom line.

Trouble is that boycott is the voice of the people and possibly one of the few ways where we have some affect. Decisions, decisions.

SGG

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Originally posted by whozit:
A thread about a SOLO boycott has turned into an argument about tax cuts...HOW!!

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, June 8, 2018 1:12 PM

Well now, have you ever paid a visit to the Cinema page? There's plenty there to chew on; I know you know this to be true. And I offer up movies that are not superhero related.

Colossal
Wind River
Alien: Covenant
The Big Sick
Dunkirk
Baby Driver
War of Planet of the Apes
Detroit
The Shape of Water
3 Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri
Mudbound
It
Get Out

Just to name a few.

I'm curious. Why would you want a list of good films when you don't go to the movies because you claim Hollywood is dead?

SGG

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well, it looks like you have made your mark on the movie industry. Me, I get a kick out of movies, the ones with a good story (there are some left you know).

Care to share? Star Wars and Superhero movies defo don't count.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 8, 2018 5:56 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Too true Whozit. We were talking about movies and it turned into a political discussion. I'm done......let's get back on topic, shall we!?

So no, to the boycott is all I'm saying. Not for me. Although I do get that Kennedy and Johnson must go; but perhaps it may work because Disney does care about the bottom line.

Trouble is that boycott is the voice of the people and possibly one of the few ways where we have some affect. Decisions, decisions.

I've heard from a little birdy that Kennedy is on her way out the door.

Not sure if it's true yet, but I will post links if I see anything concrete about this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 8, 2018 5:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well now, have you ever paid a visit to the Cinema page? There's plenty there to chew on; I know you know this to be true. And I offer up movies that are not superhero related.

Colossal
Wind River
Alien: Covenant
The Big Sick
Dunkirk
Baby Driver
War of Planet of the Apes
Detroit
The Shape of Water
3 Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri
Mudbound
It
Get Out

Just to name a few.

I'm curious. Why would you want a list of good films when you don't go to the movies because you claim Hollywood is dead?

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well, it looks like you have made your mark on the movie industry. Me, I get a kick out of movies, the ones with a good story (there are some left you know).

Care to share? Star Wars and Superhero movies defo don't count.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I prefer indie movies, and even some low budget Hollywood stuff that isn't heavily advertized. I will likely see Annihilation at some point.

Though I don't think any of the 3 movies I saw last year were made last year, "Welcome to Me", "I Don't Feel At Home In This World Anymore" and "Arq" were really good.

The three of them combined probably had a budget of the snack tables at your average super hero / Star Wars set.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WHOZIT

Friday, June 8, 2018 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Too true Whozit. We were talking about movies and it turned into a political discussion. I'm done......let's get back on topic, shall we!?

So no, to the boycott is all I'm saying. Not for me. Although I do get that Kennedy and Johnson must go; but perhaps it may work because Disney does care about the bottom line.

Trouble is that boycott is the voice of the people and possibly one of the few ways where we have some affect. Decisions, decisions.

I've heard from a little birdy that Kennedy is on her way out the door.

Not sure if it's true yet, but I will post links if I see anything concrete about this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If Kennedy goes then Rian Johnson and Jar Jar Abrams have go with her, STAR WARS needs Chris Nolan and Joss Whedon.

P.S. I may change the title to, Are you going boycott "Trump: A Tax Cuts Story"

GWEK

Friday, June 8, 2018 7:18 PM

Oh - oh, wait... Are we back to talking about SOLO?

I did not boycott it. I did the opposite. I saw it three times, and enjoyed it each time. I will likely see it once or twice more, and will certainly purchase the DVD when it's out (I usually only buy about two DVDs a year - things that I'm going to watch repeatedly, since it's so easy to watch things otherwise).

Ultimately, the movie is indeed flawed but is the most fun a Star Wars movie has been since 1983. It avoids the ponderousness of the Prequels, the repetition and fatigue of the Sequels, and even the darkness of ROGUE ONE (which I think is a better movie, but not "fun").

I saw it with my cousin most recently, and his first comment when the credits rolled was "I liked that more than the last three combined."

Admittedly, the criticisms that the movie is low stakes and that there are few surprises are true, but that doesn't prevent it from being an enjoyable ride with may great moments.

Boycott all you want. Send all the "messages" to Disney you want. But if you're an old school Star Wars fan or a fan of Firefly (and I have to assume those folks here are), you're doing it at the expense of a movie you'll very likely enjoy.

For those who were on the fence - the damage is already done. It's okay, you can go see it now and not feel guilty about it. :)

ZEEK

Friday, June 8, 2018 9:09 PM

So, now the real question is will the movie doing poorly have any positive effect. We're trusting a bunch of executives to understand a nuanced message with nothing but a number. That's a tough job for reasonable people. I don't think executives are in touch with the common man. So, it's not really surprising that they don't think the way the common man does. If they just delay their schedule and continue to roll out the same movies then I don't know what to think.

It also kinda stinks that Solo was the movie that had to send the message. From the sound of it this is more like what the fans actually want. I mean if the new trilogy just had Rey as Luke's daughter with Luke playing an Obiwan style teacher role and had lighthearted swashbuckling action, I think people would be perfectly fine with it. They felt like they had to give the audience something they didn't expect (read: want) and that isn't playing out so well.

WHOZIT

Friday, June 8, 2018 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by GWEK:
Oh - oh, wait... Are we back to talking about SOLO?

I did not boycott it. I did the opposite. I saw it three times, and enjoyed it each time. I will likely see it once or twice more, and will certainly purchase the DVD when it's out (I usually only buy about two DVDs a year - things that I'm going to watch repeatedly, since it's so easy to watch things otherwise).

Ultimately, the movie is indeed flawed but is the most fun a Star Wars movie has been since 1983. It avoids the ponderousness of the Prequels, the repetition and fatigue of the Sequels, and even the darkness of ROGUE ONE (which I think is a better movie, but not "fun").

I saw it with my cousin most recently, and his first comment when the credits rolled was "I liked that more than the last three combined."

Admittedly, the criticisms that the movie is low stakes and that there are few surprises are true, but that doesn't prevent it from being an enjoyable ride with may great moments.

Boycott all you want. Send all the "messages" to Disney you want. But if you're an old school Star Wars fan or a fan of Firefly (and I have to assume those folks here are), you're doing it at the expense of a movie you'll very likely enjoy.

For those who were on the fence - the damage is already done. It's okay, you can go see it now and not feel guilty about it. :)

I have not seen it yet, as I said I'm boycotting it and I can be an asshole BUT, many people are saying that this is a great popcorn movie...the fandom doesn't want to hear that. The fandom wants every STAR WARS film to be an instant classic. I liked "Rouge One", if you watch the films in order "Rouge One" fits in nicely between episodes 3 and 4. The fandom hated episode 8 with a passion, the only weapon they have is to NOT see SOLO. SOLO will loss $50 million.

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:59 AM

So, small budget, of the Indie persuasion.......got it!

Colossal comes to mind (15 million)
Wind River (11 million)
The Big Sick (5 million)
The Shape of Water (19.5 million) - Just so you know, Pan's Labyrinth (19 million). Del Toro was consistent with his budgets (although Hellboy II's budget was $85M).
3 Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (12 million)
Mudbound (10 million)
It (35 million)
Get Out (4.5 million)

The Quiet Place (17 million) It grossed 321 million worldwide ($185M domestically). You think John Krasinski is going to get another directing gig? He also helped write the script. Bravo, good for him.

Would you consider the above listed movies to be good movies? If so, does budget size matter? I think it depends on the story....first, second and last.

Paranormal Activity - budget $15K - is this a good movie? It made $107.9M at the box office. Avatar was the largest grossing film that year, 2009.

Some recent low budget films:

The Hurt Locker (15 million)
Witness (12 million)
Cruising (11 million)
Sweet Sweetback, circa 1971 (150K)
Bad Lieutenant (25 million)
Four Brothers (30 million)

L.A. Confidential, circa 1997 (35 million) Russell Crowe furthered his American career with this flick about LA cops in the 50s. Guy Pearce's second American movie.

Edward Scissorhands, circa 1990 (20 million) good story. Grossed $56M domestically. It wasn't even in the Top 10 that year, but it is considered a classic. Even Kiddergarten Cop, at No. 10, made more money ($201M)
1. Ghost $505M
2. Home Alone $476M
3. Pretty Woman $463M
4. Dances with Wolves $424M
5. Total Recall $261M

Rounds out the Top 5 that year, 1990. There's no accounting for taste.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well now, have you ever paid a visit to the Cinema page? There's plenty there to chew on; I know you know this to be true. And I offer up movies that are not superhero related.

Colossal
Wind River
Alien: Covenant
The Big Sick
Dunkirk
Baby Driver
War of Planet of the Apes
Detroit
The Shape of Water
3 Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri
Mudbound
It
Get Out

Just to name a few.

I'm curious. Why would you want a list of good films when you don't go to the movies because you claim Hollywood is dead?

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well, it looks like you have made your mark on the movie industry. Me, I get a kick out of movies, the ones with a good story (there are some left you know).

Care to share? Star Wars and Superhero movies defo don't count.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I prefer indie movies, and even some low budget Hollywood stuff that isn't heavily advertized. I will likely see Annihilation at some point.

Though I don't think any of the 3 movies I saw last year were made last year, "Welcome to Me", "I Don't Feel At Home In This World Anymore" and "Arq" were really good.

The three of them combined probably had a budget of the snack tables at your average super hero / Star Wars set.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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