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SIGNYM

Friday, December 8, 2017 12:24 AM

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... because there's no way in hell that $100 is a "living wage."- SIGNY

Exactly! So it follows that those people are not sole providers or living alone off that wage. - G

Well, thank you GSTRING for proving my point. "Having a job" is NOT "all that counts".

There ARE people working 1-39 hours a week, there are people who are making $12/hr when they used to make $30/hr.

THESE PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERED AS MUCH "EMPLOYED" as the people who're working 40+ hours a week.

So as far as the "unemployment" statistic is concerned, it looks pretty rosy, but for people just scraping, by they're a cruel mockery.

IF the job wages and hours of the "recovery" had stayed the same relative to before the collapse, then the "unemployment" figures would be a realistic reflection of "how people are doing". But because of Obamacare which encourages less-than-30-hour-a-week jobs; the rise of "temping" and "gig economy"; and the loss of manufacturing; MOST of the jobs added have been low-wage/ part time jobs which simply can't support a single person, let alone a family.

So we come to "proof of the pudding" measures about the "employment" situation in Indiana, which is: Are wages rising? Are young people able to get out of mom and dad's basement? Is the poverty rate going down?

I see that, in your comfortable niche, such concerns don't trouble you.

But, yanno, seriously, I think you should focus on Russia. It's a great distraction for the "deplorables" and keeps them from thinking about people like you.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Friday, December 8, 2017 2:34 AM

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... because there's no way in hell that $100 is a "living wage."- SIGNY

Exactly! So it follows that those people are not sole providers or living alone off that wage. - G

Well, thank you GSTRING for proving my point. "Having a job" is NOT "all that counts".- SIGNY

Thanks for misquoting again - you can't seem to break your lying habit. I said it was the most important thing. - G

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Maybe it's not ideal, but having a job is what counts

Nothing in there about being the most important, or any mention of wages, hours, benefits, or anything else.

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There ARE people working 1-39 hours a week- SIGNY

still sticking with that "1 hour a week" nothing thing, huh? You're a complete idiot.-G

Still ignoring the underemployed? You're an entitled elitist.

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IF the job wages and hours of the "recovery" had stayed the same relative to before the collapse, then the "unemployment" figures would be a realistic reflection of "how people are doing". But because of Obamacare which encourages less-than-30-hour-a-week jobs; the rise of "temping" and "gig economy"; and the loss of manufacturing; MOST of the jobs added have been low-wage/ part time jobs which simply can't support a single person, let alone a family.- SIGNY

Wow - cites on all that?- G

Later. But when I bring those number to the board, will you eat your words? DOUBTFUL.

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So we come to "proof of the pudding" measures about the "employment" situation in Indiana, which is: Are wages rising? Are young people able to get out of mom and dad's basement? Is the poverty rate going down?- SIGNY

How many people do you think are living in their parents' basement btw? Do you think it's worse now than it was in the past? - G

Absofuckinglutely.

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Loosing (sic) manufactuering? (sic) Don't you think we've been through shifts in job types in the past? Look what the car did to stage coach drivers.

This "job shift" is shifting jobs out of America. All I have to do is look at "the employment situation" and the falling standard of living pretty much across the board to realize that this is not a "job shift" that bodes well for most of us.

But what the hell do YOU care? YOU don't work for a living.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Friday, December 8, 2017 3:24 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

This "job shift" is shifting jobs out of America. All I have to do is look at "the employment situation" and the falling standard of living pretty much across the board to realize that this is not a "job shift" that bodes well for most of us.

But what the hell do YOU care? YOU don't work for a living.

Maybe you should ask the Republicans for help rather than expect fireflyfans to solve this problem? I know one President and 52 GOP Senators could demand business increase employment by 5% per year, every year, in exchange for a business tax cut to 20%. But nothing happens for some reason. The GOP won’t increase the minimum wage. The GOP won’t help expand unions, either. What is wrong with the GOP? Why does it dislike labor? To see all the many things that the GOP won’t do, you can google minimum wage legislation Unions GOP.
www.google.com/search?q=minimum+wage+legislation+Unions+GOP

SIGNYM

Friday, December 8, 2017 3:37 AM

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This "job shift" is shifting jobs out of America. All I have to do is look at "the employment situation" and the falling standard of living pretty much across the board to realize that this is not a "job shift" that bodes well for most of us.

But what the hell do YOU care? YOU don't work for a living. - SIGNY

Maybe you should ask the Republicans for help rather than expect fireflyfans to solve this problem?- SECOND

Maybe you should show a little patriotism and some faith in democracy?

Or take your own advice, and STFU about Trump?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Friday, December 8, 2017 3:55 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Maybe you should show a little patriotism and some faith in democracy?

Or take your own advice, and STFU about Trump?

Did you know that under Trump, US jobs are moving overseas even faster than before? I won't bother you with the article's numbers but it also mentions "Low-skill workers still struggle to find jobs that can support a family or afford the education for work that does. It’s not clear, however, that the Trump agenda is going to bring them much relief." Not clear is an understatement. Completely opaque, upside down, or non-functioning Trump agenda is more accurate.
https://qz.com/1144201

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THGRRI

Friday, December 8, 2017 4:33 AM

Wikileaks faces U.S. probes into its 2016 election role and CIA leaks: sources

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - WikiLeaks and its founder, Julian Assange, are facing multiple investigations by U.S. authorities, including three congressional probes and a federal criminal inquiry, sources familiar with the investigations said.

The Senate and House of Representatives intelligence committees and leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee are probing the website's role in the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, according to the sources, who all requested anonymity, and public documents.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wikileaks-faces-u-probes-2016-election-role
-cia-173513427.html

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SIGNYM

Friday, December 8, 2017 5:23 AM

Wikileaks can withstand any number of investigations because (1) They've done nothing wrong and (2) they KNOW who gave them the DNC/Podesta emails and it wasn't a Russian.

So this will be a dry hole for the investigators to look into, but hey, investigate away!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Friday, December 8, 2017 5:52 AM

Signym! I anxiously wait to hear Trump's carefully thought out plan of action for the next 7 years:

The U.S. economy is creating millionaires at an astonishing pace. But what’s it doing for everyone else?
www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/07/the-u-s-economy-is-crea
ting-millionaires-at-an-astonishing-pace-but-whats-it-doing-for-everyone-else/

The U.S. economy is minting new millionaires at an astonishing rate, according to a paper by New York University economist Edward N. Wolff. http://papers.nber.org/tmp/7707-w24085.pdf

The number of households with a net worth of $1 million (measured in constant 1995 dollars, or about $1.6 million today) grew from 2.4 million households in 1983 to 9.1 million households in 2016, a growth rate of 279 percent.

For comparison, the total number of households grew by just 50 percent over that period, meaning that the population of millionaires grew at more than 5 times the rate of the general population. In 1983 fewer than 3 percent of households had a net worth greater than $1 million in 1995 dollars. By 2016, over 7 percent of households were worth that much.

Net worth is a measure of a household's assets, such as home value, stocks and retirement accounts, minus debts. From 2013 to 2016 alone, the economy added over 2 million households with a net worth of $1 million or more in constant 1995 dollars. That works out to roughly 1,845 new millionaire households each day during that period.

Rates of growth in the upper echelons of the wealth spectrum have been even more rapid. From 1983 to 2016, the number of households worth $5 million grew by 649 percent. The number of households worth $10 million or more grew by 856 percent over the same period.

Wolff's research has also shown that the richest 1 percent of Americans now own nearly twice as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent combined.

Similarly, gains in income have been flowing primarily to the richest households in recent years.

Regardless of the number of millionaires created each day, the rise in inequality could spell trouble for the economy if it continues unabated. Too much inequality can depress economic growth in a number of ways. As the Economist summarized the research in 2015, “inequality could impair growth if those with low incomes suffer poor health and low productivity as a result, or if, as evidence suggests, the poor struggle to finance investments in education.”
www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/06/economist-explains-
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SIGNYM

Friday, December 8, 2017 7:51 AM

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Signym! I anxiously wait to hear Trump's carefully thought out plan of action for the next 7 years

SECOND! I anxiously await the DNC's carefully thought-out plan for the next 7 years!

Or are they going to continue focusing on Russia???

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THGRRI

Tuesday, January 2, 2018 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Apparently SECOND, THUGR, GSTRING are all willing to get huffy about partisan issues, but none of them are willing to discuss REAL WORLD events, where issues like debt and military technology are important.

Sure we do comrade sig. We just don't share your russian perspective on these things.

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