Let's focus on Russia!
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Because we can't do shit about NK and its missiles, or China and it's economy. And talking about those real issues will only needlessly upset the people at home.
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Because we can't do shit about NK and its missiles, or China and it's economy. - KIKI
Hey! You're finally right about something! Trump sure can't do sh*t about NK or China.= GSTRING
Actually, he can and he is as far as China is concerned. The entity that is helpless to do anything is OUR MILITARY, because neither one of these problems is amenable to a military solution.
China is a trade and economy problem. Previous Presidents, both Democratic and Republican, have sold our economy downriver, floating the USA on a sea of trade, personal, and government debt to ease/delay the impact. Bush and Obama pulled the pins on a series of grenades when they bailed out the banks and allowed the Fed to float the elite and blow a bunch of speculative bubbles with a zero-interest policy. Meanwhile, regular people are suffering for lack of jobs.
Yanno what I personally found instructive from 2008? In an extended discussion about happiness ... just before the collapse ... GEEZER and I were debating the happiest country in the world. At the time, it was Iceland. Yes, people were EXTREMELY happy there. You should look up what has happened to Iceland since. On the other had, you can keep your head buried in the sand.
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NK is a diplomatic problem. According to experts, they've achieved the technological development required to build a nuclear-tipped missile which can reach most of the continental USA. All of that bluster, hand-wringing and sanctions over the last 15 years has not slowed NK's drive towards a nuclear weapon. Inf act, the USA's successive destruction of multiple nations since 2000 has only propelled the NK project forward.
Do you know what I find interesting about the last missile test? Not that it went 4500 km up, not that it COULD reach Wash DC if aimed for maximum distance. I found TWO things very interesting about the laucnh
1) None of those fancy THADD anti-missile missiles that we deployed in the area brought that missile down. They weren't even fired. WHY??
2) The missile landed very close to Japan. That speaks to very good targeting by the NK, since shooting a missile up into the air is a little like shooting an arrow up into the air: One teeny-tint wobble, and your missile has landed on Japan proper, and not into the nearby ocean.
Curiously, when asked what the NK's want, a former diplomat said that they wanted
1) To formally end the Korean War with a peace treaty, not a cessation of hostilities and
2) To be negotiated with on equal footing, and not to be bullied and hectored by the west.
Wow, such simple things. And none of the can be accomplished by the military. What's a neocon to do??? (sigh) GSTRING, since YOU'RE a neocon, maybe you can tell us?
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Apparently SECOND, THUGR, GSTRING are all willing to get huffy about partisan issues, but none of them are willing to discuss REAL WORLD events, where issues like debt and military technology are important.
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"Pentagon To Deploy THAAD Anti-Missile Systems On West Coast To Protect Against North Korean ICBM Attack"
Yes, because they worked so well in S Korea!
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Originally posted by G:
Stacking the sh*t as high as the sky I see. You sound like you're actually quoting Trump po-LIE-c, yes? Unemployment is low, and has been. It's at the point (below 5%) where it's an indicator that businesses can't find enough people to work. You're "Jobs!" mantra is as bad and misleading as all the other one word fart bombs you and the Republican Loyalists drop every chance they're in a closed space with more than 2 people. "Hillary!" "Obama!" "Freedom!" Fortunate for you but unfortunate for the country, there are plenty of stupid people that will believe you.
The job market is shit. The Trump Administration taking any credit for, or even saying that it is good is a like just like when Obama was saying it. Stop throwing out the government bullshit percentage numbers.
There are plenty of shitty minimum wage or close jobs out there now. A lot of the real jobs that you could support yourself on without government assistance are gone. Either to automation or cheaper labor overseas.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Kiki, Siggy, you two valiant information warriors can try and deflect away from Russia all you want, the heat's not coming off Trump any time soon.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Because we can't do shit about NK and its missiles, or China and it's economy. And talking about those real issues will only needlessly upset the people at home.
Brian Ross NOW thinks the same thing...he's now taken up knitting.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The job market is shit.
Your experience is different than other people's, even in your own state:
Indiana is nearing its lowest unemployment rate ever
https://www.indystar.com/story/money/2017/07/21/indiana-nearing-its-lo
west-unemployment-rate-ever/500488001/
Indiana's jobless rate tumbled for the fourth consecutive month in June, putting the state within reach of its record low.
The number of unemployed workers in Indiana fell by 6,515 people, or 0.2 percentage points, bringing the state's unemployment rate down to 3 percent. Indiana could soon match or beat its all-time low of 2.9 percent, which was last reached in October 2000.
Since the last time Indiana enjoyed record-low unemployment, the state's jobless rate ballooned to as high as 10.9 percent during the Great Recession. It has been steadily falling since March 2010 — outpacing the national recovery.
Indiana's unemployment rate during the past year fell by 1.5 percentage points, the second-fastest in the U.S. to Wyoming (1.6 percentage points). The U.S. unemployment rate is 4.4 percent.
Even as most out-of-work Indiana residents are finding job opportunities, though, wage growth has remained sluggish in Indiana. The state has consistently lagged U.S. wage growth during the recovery.
Personal income in Indiana grew by 0.7 percent between the fourth quarter of 2016 and first quarter of this year, according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. That was the ninth-slowest growth in the U.S.
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There is nothing in that blurb you stated that refutes anything I said.
Personal income "raising" by 1.4% in a half a year doesn't even match the 2% needed to match the governments lowball 4% estimation of inflation.
Once again, another article that completely avoids talking about how many people are now working part time jobs for less money than they used to make as well, and doesn't take into account nearly 10 years of lost wages either.
Go figure.
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There is nothing in that blurb you stated that refutes anything I said. - SIX
You said "The job market is shit." That article says in your state it's never been better. Can't be both. I totally understand that raw data can be slanted or misread and misused - do you have some facts, details or other info other than your "feels" to back up that it's "shit?"- G
Yanno, GSTRING, if you were the least teeny-tiny bit interested in finding out what's really going on you'd already know what's wrong with the unemployment figures because it's been discussed many, many, many times before.
CLEARLY, you don't give a crap about being laid off or eking out a living as a free-lancer. My guess is that you're working in your daddy's company in a comfy middle-management niche where you can while away the hours posting on Firefly and endlessly checking your Twitter feed. But be that as it may ...
The big problems with the official unemployment figure is that it excludes anyone who is no longer looking for a job ("discouraged worker") and it INCLUDES as "employed" anyone who is working for even one hour a month, even if they need a full-time job. In addition, these figures are developed from a population of 60,000 households which are sampled over and over again; nobody seems to have questioned whether this frequent "sampling" affects the population's behavior.
https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
Just ponder the other's person's situation for a moment, if it's at all possible for you to consider how the average American manages to get along.
They could be officially earning something like $12 a month as an Uber driver, and still be officially "employed".
In addition, because Obamacare exempts anyone who works less than 30 hours a week from mandated coverage, many employers have specifically geared their positions to be something less than 30 hours a week.
There are many other ways of measuring the job market, and almost any one of them would be better than the "official" figure. There, in fact, six different OFFICIAL measures of unemployment https://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt.htm but only the most positive one is reported.
In addition, there are "proof of the pudding" measures. In other words, if the employment situation is so damn positive, then employer competition for workers should show up in wage increases, and if so many people are gainfully and sustainably employed then welfare payments should go down and poverty should decrease. Is any of that happening? If so, does it make up for the losses incurred in 2008-2016?
Which is why I always say ...
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Pity would be no more,
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