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It is a catastrophe that Liberal America has done such a poor job of protecting the nation against the extraordinary force that has been taking over the Republican Party (over the past several decades). And a compelling case can be made that the failure (of Liberal America its political arm, the Democratic Party) to better protect the nation has been substantially due to the inability of a largely secular liberal culture to perceive what it was up against, and thus to fight it appropriately.
Not seeing what it was up against, the Democrats failed to see that the usual American political battle over issues and interests had become something more fundamental, to a degree unprecedented in American history comprehensible in terms of “the Battle Between Good and Evil.” How could it be? There’s no such thing!
The blindness of the Democrats to the rise of “a Force of Evil” demonstrates not only the perceptiveness of that bit of baseball wisdom that says, “You can’t hit what you can’t see.” But it also shows that “You can’t see what you have no conceptual way of including in your picture of reality.”
(FDR – a liberal at a time when the old worldview held greater sway — seemed to understand Evil in the old way, and that helped him defeat Evil in World War II. Barack Obama, apparently lacking much of a concept of “Evil,” didn’t see it when it was coming at him. And as a result, ended up barricaded in the White House with his Presidency substantially stripped of its powers, except for the issuance of executive orders.
(And while this exceptionally decent and best-intentioned man was President, his failure to recognize the reality of a “Force of Evil” enabled such a Force to gain in power. Indeed, that failure inadvertently opened the door for what previous generations of Americans would have regarded as unthinkable to happen: i.e. for a human monster like Donald Trump to become President of the United States, and from there to “spread a pattern of brokenness” across multiple dimensions of American civilization and the wider world.)
(In this, Obama was emblematic of a widespread and long-standing inability in the Democratic Party of these times: even as the other side was being taken over by “a coherent Force that consistently makes things worse,” the Democrats continued to talk about their “friends across the aisle,” and sought to conduct “politics as usual.” And a compelling case can be made that a major reason for this was that there was no concept in their minds — no word in their language – for the kind of Force that had taken over the Republican Party.)
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/09/the-discernible-reality-
of-a-force-of-evil.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:
It is a catastrophe that Liberal America has done such a poor job of protecting the nation against the extraordinary force that has been taking over the Republican Party (over the past several decades). And a compelling case can be made that the failure (of Liberal America its political arm, the Democratic Party) to better protect the nation has been substantially due to the inability of a largely secular liberal culture to perceive what it was up against, and thus to fight it appropriately.
Not seeing what it was up against, the Democrats failed to see that the usual American political battle over issues and interests had become something more fundamental, to a degree unprecedented in American history comprehensible in terms of “the Battle Between Good and Evil.” How could it be? There’s no such thing!
The blindness of the Democrats to the rise of “a Force of Evil” demonstrates not only the perceptiveness of that bit of baseball wisdom that says, “You can’t hit what you can’t see.” But it also shows that “You can’t see what you have no conceptual way of including in your picture of reality.”
(FDR – a liberal at a time when the old worldview held greater sway — seemed to understand Evil in the old way, and that helped him defeat Evil in World War II. Barack Obama, apparently lacking much of a concept of “Evil,” didn’t see it when it was coming at him. And as a result, ended up barricaded in the White House with his Presidency substantially stripped of its powers, except for the issuance of executive orders.
(And while this exceptionally decent and best-intentioned man was President, his failure to recognize the reality of a “Force of Evil” enabled such a Force to gain in power. Indeed, that failure inadvertently opened the door for what previous generations of Americans would have regarded as unthinkable to happen: i.e. for a human monster like Donald Trump to become President of the United States, and from there to “spread a pattern of brokenness” across multiple dimensions of American civilization and the wider world.)
(In this, Obama was emblematic of a widespread and long-standing inability in the Democratic Party of these times: even as the other side was being taken over by “a coherent Force that consistently makes things worse,” the Democrats continued to talk about their “friends across the aisle,” and sought to conduct “politics as usual.” And a compelling case can be made that a major reason for this was that there was no concept in their minds — no word in their language – for the kind of Force that had taken over the Republican Party.)
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/09/the-discernible-reality-
of-a-force-of-evil.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
For supposedly not subscribing to any religion, you people sure sound like cultists.
Kool-Aid's served. Drink up!
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Quote:Kool-Aid must be a reference to the Reverend Jim Jones from the Jonestown Massacre. Jones, the maximum leader, got his people to drink the poisoned Kool-Aid and die for Jones. The Democrats never been the kind to elevate a Jim Jones who they loyally serve unto death. On the other hand, the GOP has Trump, who fits the Jim Jones template. Trump voters are well suited for the next Peoples Temple Agricultural Project, aka "Jonestown", aka "MAGA".
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
For supposedly not subscribing to any religion, you people sure sound like cultists.
Kool-Aid's served. Drink up!
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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Kool-Aid must be a reference to the Reverend Jim Jones from the Jonestown Massacre. Jones, the maximum leader, got his people to drink the poisoned Kool-Aid and die for Jones. The Democrats never been the kind to elevate a Jim Jones who they loyally serve unto death. On the other hand, the GOP has Trump, who fits the Jim Jones template. Trump voters are well suited for the next Peoples Temple Agricultural Project, aka "Jonestown", aka "MAGA".
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
For supposedly not subscribing to any religion, you people sure sound like cultists.
Kool-Aid's served. Drink up!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
Wrong. You absolutely do follow a Leftist, Marxist dogma.
And the rest of the country is rejecting it. Full stop.
You're fucking done, idiot.
You should have called out dudes with mental illnesses dressed up like Disney Princesses letting 6 year old girls rub up on their junk while Antifa stood guard outside while you had the chance.
Woke is dead. Green is dead. The Democrat agenda is dead.
You might want to move out of My country tomorrow because you ain't going to like it here anymore.
Either that, or drink the fucking Kool-Aid already.
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Quote:6ix, you are not well, but there is a new Constitutional change in Nevada that makes it more difficult for the unwell to get their preferred mentally unwell politicians elected. What is it?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wrong. You absolutely do follow a Leftist, Marxist dogma.
And the rest of the country is rejecting it. Full stop.
You're fucking done, idiot.
You should have called out dudes with mental illnesses dressed up like Disney Princesses letting 6 year old girls rub up on their junk while Antifa stood guard outside while you had the chance.
Woke is dead. Green is dead. The Democrat agenda is dead.
You might want to move out of My country tomorrow because you ain't going to like it here anymore.
Either that, or drink the fucking Kool-Aid already.
It is Nevada Question 3, Top-Five Ranked Choice Voting Initiative, which has become the Law by a vote of 52.35% to 47.65%
https://ballotpedia.org/Nevada_Question_3,_Top-Five_Ranked_Choice_Voti
ng_Initiative_(2022)
An article from last week: Can much of America’s current political dysfunction be traced back to one feature of our system: the partisan primary? And if so, what should be done about that?
Nevada voters will be tasked with assessing those questions when they go to the polls Tuesday, to vote on “Question 3” — a proposed overhaul of the state’s election system that would effectively kill the partisan primary (the elections in which Democratic and Republican voters choose their party nominees). https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/indy-explains-question-3-open
-primaries-and-ranked-choice-voting
Instead, Nevada would have a nonpartisan primary, from which the top five candidates of any party would emerge to the general election. The general election would then be conducted under ranked-choice voting (which lets people vote for multiple candidates for each office, ranked in order of their preference).
This is not just about election wonkery. The proposal’s backers say it could help fix American politics by weakening the forces of partisanship, polarization, and extremity. The two parties, they believe, have become captured by their bases’ most extreme elements, who can discipline anyone breaking from the party line through a primary challenge.
Indeed, when assessing how the Republican Party has moved into the hands of Donald Trump, it’s impossible to miss the importance of the primary. Some Trump critics have retired rather than face the primary electorate again: “The path that I would have to travel to get the Republican nomination is a path I’m not willing to take,” then-Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) said in 2017. Others have taken on Trump anyway and, with a few exceptions, have faced defeat. The most common strategy employed by GOP incumbents, though, was to become a strong Trump supporter to preemptively prevent losing renomination.
But while Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), who has defied Trump on several high-profile issues, did draw a right-wing challenger this year, she did not have to worry about getting primaried. In 2020, Alaska voters approved a similar reform to the one on the ballot in Nevada. That effectively guaranteed Murkowski would make it to the general election, rather than being taken down beforehand. Her case — and her GOP challenger Kelly Tshibaka’s — will go before the full Alaska electorate next week.
And yet progressives worried about the future of American democracy aren’t so enthusiastic about these reforms — in part because they’d likely weaken the left wing of the Democratic Party as well. Progressives have had their own success at taking down incumbents in primaries that elevated rising stars like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) to Congress. They hope to punish Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) for opposing much of President Joe Biden’s agenda this year with a primary challenge in 2024. There is even speculation that fear of a primary challenge has made Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer focus hard on pleasing the left during Bi
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I'm fine dude.
I can only imagine the meltdown you and Ted would be going through right now had the election turned the way it was predicted to.
I'll be out working on my porch. Nothing is any different today than it was yesterday.
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Quote:6ix, why is your new signature: "I'm a Democrat now. Let's erase history, burn everything down and start over. China's going to end up owning everything anyways." Did you have a mental breakdown, 6ix?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm fine dude.
I can only imagine the meltdown you and Ted would be going through right now had the election turned the way it was predicted to.
I'll be out working on my porch. Nothing is any different today than it was yesterday.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=20&tid=63463&mid=11643
60#1164360
The probability was Republicans win both chambers: 57%. That might be the final result, 6ix, but you couldn't wait before having another in a long series of tantrums or mental breakdowns. Your latest one is at http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65359
The other probability was that Democrats win the Senate
Republicans win the House: 27% probability
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/
Why Is America Always Divided 50–50?
by Annie Lowrey
Despite wrenching economic and political changes in the country, Democrats and Republicans keep finding themselves nearly tied in election after election.
November 8, 2022, 5:30 AM ET
Republicans and Democrats once again find themselves in a dead heat as they fight for control of the American government. The Senate majority hinges on a handful of seats. Republicans are likely to retake the House, but unlikely to eke out a strong majority. The generic ballot shows that 46 percent of Americans prefer the GOP and 45 percent the Democrats.
The two parties have been neck and neck since long before this midterm. Despite wild gyrations in the economy, the terrifying rise of antidemocratic politics on the right, and yawning policy differences between Democrats and Republicans, recent national electoral results keep coming in remarkably close, as if decided by a coin toss. A few decades ago, a Democratic president being 15 points underwater on his approval rating likely would have led to a Republican wave in the midterms. This year, political analysts expect more of a ripple.
Many statistics point to the same trend. The frequency with which the House and Senate flip between parties has increased; neither party builds much momentum for long. Democrats controlled the House from 1955 to 1995, for instance. Now the chamber is about to change hands for the fourth time in 15 years. The difference in the number of congressional seats held by the majority and minority parties has collapsed too. Between 1959 and 1995, the House majority was never less than 50 seats and repeatedly hit the triple digits. Today, the Democrats have only eight more seats than the Republicans. The popular-vote margin in American presidential elections has diminished too. In five of the past six contests, fewer than five percentage points separated the winner from the loser.
Every election is close. Every election feels consequential, because it is. And far-reaching policy outcomes are over and over again determined by just a few thousand votes in a handful of states.
In many ways, this is a baleful trend. Our coin-toss elections are not the result of having two parties competing for an engaged and persuadable electorate. They are at least in part a product of our political stasis and extreme polarization. They mean that when either party wins, it does so without much of a mandate. They also mean that neither party is ever forced to regroup and reform after a humiliating defeat. In the words of the Princeton political scientist Frances Lee, both parties are “insecure” in victory and hyper-engaged in a “perpetual campaign” against the other side.
There is no simple explanation for why this is happening. I had at first figured it had something to do with game theory. You have two parties. Each has deep resources and strong incentives to win over and thus reduce the number of middle-of-the road voters. The parties
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Your Democratic Votes
As bad as Fetterman seems perhaps it would have been worse if Turkeyman Oz won
and at least some got counts and it wasn't a complete shitshow like Arizona
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Quote:Why independent voters broke for Democrats in the midterms
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Your Democratic Votes
and at least some got counts and it wasn't a complete shitshow like Arizona
The Wall Street Journal reports:
Lisa Ghelfi, a 58-year-old registered Republican in Arizona, voted for Donald Trump for president two years ago but has grown tired of his election-fraud claims. It is the main reason she voted for Democrats for governor, senator, secretary of state and attorney general this fall and plans to change her registration to independent.
“Not allowing the election to be settled, it’s very divisive,” Ms. Ghelfi, a semiretired attorney from Paradise Valley, said of the 2020 race. “I think the election spoke for itself.” She said she voted for Republicans down-ballot who weren’t as vocal about election fraud or as closely tied to Mr. Trump, yet couldn’t support Arizona’s four major Republican candidates because they echoed Mr. Trump’s false claims.
Republicans succeeded in one of their top goals this year: They brought more of their party’s voters to the polls than did Democrats. But in the course of energizing their core voters, Republicans in many states lost voters in the political center—both independents and many Republicans who are uneasy with elements of the party’s focus under Mr. Trump.
Control of the House and Senate, which had seemed poised to land with the Republican Party, is coming down to a handful of races that so far are too close to call, though the GOP remains on track to winning a narrow majority in the House. Republicans have won nearly 5.5 million more votes in House races than have Democrats, a tally by the nonpartisan Cook Political Report finds, as many voters were motivated by anxiety over high inflation and a low opinion of President Biden’s response.
At the same time, Republican analysts said their unexpectedly weak showing in the election indicated that they had failed to press hard enough on those issues. In Michigan, the Republican Party’s state committee said a failure to talk to voters in the political center was a central reason that Tudor Dixon, the party’s Trump-endorsed nominee for governor, was crushed in a 10 percentage point defeat by Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.
Continue reading… at https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-independent-voters-broke-for-democrat
s-in-the-midterms-11668249002?mod=djemalertNEWS
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:
Why independent voters broke for Democrats in the midterms
They didn't.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you are insane.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, it was just last week that you predicted the Democratic Party is dead.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All you do is post propaganda dude.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Mail in fraud is a thing that needs to be taken care of.
Have you stopped to ask yourself just how in the hell the Republicans won the popular vote in the mid-terms? That hasn't happened once before in my life.
All it takes is a bunch of harvested, unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots in swing states to win. You guys have done it twice now.
The funny thing is that you never do it in states like California and New York because you should always win those and look what happened there. A few surprises, huh?
My predictions are sound. You guys keep cheating and you'll get that Civil War you keep talking about. Fuck around and find out.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
No. I'm not.
You didn't notice that yet, did you?
Democrat Popular vote (2022): 47,301,792 - 46.7%
Republican Popular vote (2022): 52,084,705 - 51.4%
Republicans (2022) - +4.7
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2022/house/
Republicans managed so far to have nearly 5 Million more votes than Democrats did in the popular vote. Two years ago, Democrats had 5 Million more votes than Republicans in California alone.
California Democrat votes (2020): 11,110,250 63.5% 34.3%
California Republican votes (2020): 6,006,429
California Democrats (2020) - 29.2%
https://www.cookpolitical.com/2020-national-popular-vote-tracker
You guys cheated. Twice now.
How many times do you suppose you're going to get away with that?
You are going to find out.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
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