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Originally posted by second:
1kiki, I'm not buying the premise that the white majority are rational; I've seen too many white Republican Texans make ruinous private decisions unrelated to politics. If a majority of Americans were rational (they are not) and they also disliked their government then at every state and local election (specifically excluding Presidential) rational Americans would do what this guy says he will do: “The only thing the government does is screw the working people,” says Scott, a Trump voter from Georgia contacted by email, who asked that his last name not be published. He says he’ll do everything he can to vote Republicans out of power in 2018. “What is the next step, short of armed insurrection?”

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LOL... this guy thinks that's going to solve anything?

Wake up call, buddy...

Democrats were in the exact same position 8 years ago and we were getting screwed just as bad, if not worse.

More power to you though, voting all the Republicans out of power in 2018 with your near-meaningless vote.

Presidentially speaking, at least... even if I voted for Clinton in Indiana, she lost by so many I might as well voted for Daffy Duck.



Except for very local elections, I ALWAYS vote against whoever is currently in office. I also take the time to vote against any current judges being reinstated as well. There are some local guys and gals that have done alright by me though, so I vote for them in the little elections.

Maybe if everybody voted the way that I do until things start getting better, politicians might get the hint that they actually have to serve the people if they want more than one term.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Maybe if everybody voted the way that I do until things start getting better, politicians might get the hint that they actually have to serve the people if they want more than one term.

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Most people can't punish a politician for lying to them about his true intentions because it is too much effort for most people to keep track of the politician's promises versus his self-serving actions once in office. The politician spends thousands of hours being devious and crafty and the voter spends a hundred seconds thinking about it before returning the same guy to the same office as before. Here is how that works in real life:

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/16/hard-times-in-trump-country/

Jamie Stewart voted for Donald Trump, but she thinks the president is a “jackass.” She doesn’t really love to talk about what he’s doing or why she voted for him. “They should take his phone away from him,” she says. “He posts stupid shit all the time.”

Stewart works as a customer service manager at Walmart — though not enough hours to receive benefits or health insurance from her employer. She is raising her 10-year-old autistic son, Wyatt, mostly alone.

In a series of interviews that stretched over a year, Stewart was ambivalent when pressed about the president’s accomplishments or any promises he might have kept. “I don’t really pay attention,” she says. “I don’t have time to give a shit.”

Since Trump astonished himself and the world on election night last year, observers have scrambled to figure out people like Stewart, Middle America’s “white working class.” Why did they vote as they did? And were they going to do it again?

“Economic anxiety” quickly became the default explanation — which, as some have since pointed out, doesn’t account for the economic anxiety of nonwhites who didn’t vote for Trump or consistent support for the president among whites across class and income. “This is not a working-class coalition,” The Atlantic’s Adam Serwer wrote in a detailed analysis of the vote. “It is a nationalist one.” Those who argued that the anxiety was more racial than economic called Trump’s election a “whitelash” and a “temper tantrum.” Others saw it as “political nihilism,” “the revenge of the forgotten class.”

Stewart’s views offer a glimpse into a community that might think of itself as being far removed from the country’s politics, but in fact, lies at their very core.

Stewart said she had no illusions, when she voted for Trump, that things would get better. “Trump came in, promised West Virginia bigger and better things,” she said. “Something so bad, you can’t make great overnight.” Today, she doesn’t regret her decision, nor does she try to justify it or apologize for it. “It just seemed like the best choice,” she says. “Better than Hillary, that’s what everybody was saying, so that’s what we went with. A lot of my family was just like, put anybody in that office other than that bitch.”

More at https://theintercept.com/2017/12/16/hard-times-in-trump-country/

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Maybe if everybody voted the way that I do until things start getting better, politicians might get the hint that they actually have to serve the people if they want more than one term.

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Most people can't punish a politician for lying to them about his true intentions because it is too much effort for most people to keep track of the politician's promises versus his self-serving actions once in office. The politician spends thousands of hours being devious and crafty and the voter spends a hundred seconds thinking about it before returning the same guy to the same office as before. Here is how that works in real life:

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/16/hard-times-in-trump-country/

Jamie Stewart voted for Donald Trump, but she thinks the president is a “jackass.” She doesn’t really love to talk about what he’s doing or why she voted for him. “They should take his phone away from him,” she says. “He posts stupid shit all the time.”

Stewart works as a customer service manager at Walmart — though not enough hours to receive benefits or health insurance from her employer. She is raising her 10-year-old autistic son, Wyatt, mostly alone.

In a series of interviews that stretched over a year, Stewart was ambivalent when pressed about the president’s accomplishments or any promises he might have kept. “I don’t really pay attention,” she says. “I don’t have time to give a shit.”

Since Trump astonished himself and the world on election night last year, observers have scrambled to figure out people like Stewart, Middle America’s “white working class.” Why did they vote as they did? And were they going to do it again?

“Economic anxiety” quickly became the default explanation — which, as some have since pointed out, doesn’t account for the economic anxiety of nonwhites who didn’t vote for Trump or consistent support for the president among whites across class and income. “This is not a working-class coalition,” The Atlantic’s Adam Serwer wrote in a detailed analysis of the vote. “It is a nationalist one.” Those who argued that the anxiety was more racial than economic called Trump’s election a “whitelash” and a “temper tantrum.” Others saw it as “political nihilism,” “the revenge of the forgotten class.”

Stewart’s views offer a glimpse into a community that might think of itself as being far removed from the country’s politics, but in fact, lies at their very core.

Stewart said she had no illusions, when she voted for Trump, that things would get better. “Trump came in, promised West Virginia bigger and better things,” she said. “Something so bad, you can’t make great overnight.” Today, she doesn’t regret her decision, nor does she try to justify it or apologize for it. “It just seemed like the best choice,” she says. “Better than Hillary, that’s what everybody was saying, so that’s what we went with. A lot of my family was just like, put anybody in that office other than that bitch.”

More at https://theintercept.com/2017/12/16/hard-times-in-trump-country/

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Not much I can disagree with in that article. I like how even though they mentioned that some called it a "whitelash", the more likely explanation is "political nihilism". Her closing thoughts on the matter pretty much sum up my own.



I'm not picking on her, especially since she didn't write the article, but she is not a manager at Walmart. They don't have part time managers. She may be a team lead or department head, which pays a piddly sum more than the average peon, but she's not a manager if she's part time. If she were management, she'd be salaried and likely expected to put in around 50-55 hours a week. Probably not something she'd be able to do, given that she's the mother of an autistic child and it sounds like she's not married.

Knowing how the average retailer treats their employees, they likely make her do managerial tasks while she is there part

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Originally posted by second:
1kiki, I'm not buying the premise that the white majority are rational

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I would actually give a shit about what you posted if you didn't constantly misrepresent my points (ie lie). I didn't say the white majority was rational, I said there are states that voted for Obama, ie, that they are not, on the whole, biased. But then, those Obama voters stayed home for Clinton. They didn't stay home because they are biased people, they already proved they are not. They stayed home because they disliked Clinton, personally and specifically. She should not have been the 'democratic 'candidate.

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the one-third of Americans who actually vote

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And I would probably have a better opinion of your posts if you didn't post untrue shit (ie lie). You claimed (ie lied) that one-third, 33%, of Americans vote. But 60% did.

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About 139 million Americans, or 60.2 percent of the voting-eligible population, cast a ballot in November’s elections, according to data compiled by the U.S. Elections Project.
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/324206-new-report-finds-that-v
oter-turnout-in-2016-topped-2012

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HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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So anyway, it's pretty obvious the democrats have lost touch with their populist roots in their exuberant support of demographic transitions.

What message should the 'democrats' bring to us, the audience and consumer?

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Originally posted by second:
the one-third of Americans who actually vote

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
And I would probably have a better opinion of your posts if you didn't post untrue shit (ie lie). You claimed (ie lied) that one-third, 33%, of Americans vote. But 60% did.

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This is just a sign that wittingly or unwittingly, Second is an excellent student of the MSM and their constant manipulation of facts and statistics to suit their own narrative.

Remember when "Less than 50% of Americans" could have been effected by the Equifax data breech?

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Massive Equifax Data Breach Could Affect Half of the U.S. Population

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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/massive-equifax-data-breach-coul
d-impact-half-u-s-population-n799686

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Data of 143 million Americans — nearly half the country — exposed in Equifax hack

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/national/ct-equifax-data-breach
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Later on, it was found that a few more million people were admitted to:

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That brings the total number of Americans whose data was exposed to 145.5 million people.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/equifax-data-breach-millions-more-affecte
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Well... there are currently 73.8 Million children in the US in 2017. And they don't count.

https://www.childstats.gov/americaschildren/tables/pop1.asp

And there are 323.1 million people in the US in 2016.

(Google search result and answer for "how many people in the us today")

And 45 Million Americans don't have a credit score.

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One in 10 American consumers has no credit history, according to a study released Tuesday by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. (Tweet This)

The research found that about 26 million American adults have no histories with national credit reporting agencies such as Equifax, Experian and TransUnion. In addition to those so-called credit invisibles, an additional 19 million have credit reports that are so limited or out of date that they are unscorable. In other words, 45 million American consumers are living without credit scores.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2015/05/05/credit-invisible-26-million-have-no-cr
edit-score.html


So let's not, for the moment, even consider illegals living here who don't have credit, simply because that could skew too many numbers too many ways.

(See what I did there, MSM!!!!???? I erred on the side of caution instead of linking to various claims that are aren't very solid.... SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT VERY GOOD AT DOING WHEN YOU CONSTANTLY CHOOSE TO SHOEHORN HACK-JOB JOURNALISM IN THERE WHEN IT SERVES TO MAKE YOUR POINT.

Even though I personally believe this variable would greatly benefit my position, it will not be included at all here).

If we throw out that variable, and also any others that I'm currently not considering that could do nothing but further the numbers in the desired direction of the point I'm making, this is what we are left with:


1. People in America: 323.1 million

2. People in America, minus children under 18 who have no credit: 249.3 Million

3. People in America, minus children and those without credit or who's credit histories are so limited or out of date they are unscorable): 204.3 Million.



So, of the 204.3 Million people who (presumably) have credit (based off of these remedial stats), 145.5 Million of them were affected by the Equifax data breech, or just over 71% of us.


Did the MSM lie to us? Or are they just fucking stupid?

One can only speculate.

Do Right, Be Right. :)





SIDE NOTE: I love cnbc's laughable math here. From the article about 45 million people without credit scores:

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One in 10 American consumers has no credit history.

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What?

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The research found that about 26 million American adults have no histories with national credit report

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