Is Trump Nuts?
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Nixon wasn't impeached as soon as he came into office, in fact, he was re-elected to a second term. After 6 years, they'd had enough. The kicker was anillegal war in Cambodia. I don't have an issue with Nixon's mission in Cambodia. I really completely agree with him: Khmer Rouge was much more of a threat to the locals than the VC. However, he should've sought congressional approval.
So why wasn't Obama impeached for an illegal war in Pakistan? I have an answer to that one, and it's a bad one, but probably true. It was too soon. He crossed the border into Pakistan and started an illegal war right out the starting gate. IOW, not going to happen.
Yemen isn't impeachabble because we were already in Yemen, and ditto for ISIS. If he invades Iran, or launches a full out war against Syria, without congressional approval, then you might have something.
Treason is clear. And bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors is language copied from Wat Tyler, and refers to a blatant betrayal of public trust, such as levying taxes and then pocketing the funds instead of spending them in the budget. It was never intended to remove elected officials form office and has never been used to do so.
http://www.crf-usa.org/impeachment/high-crimes-and-misdemeanors.html
BTW, abandon the tax nonsense, it's hurting your argument. We all watched Maddow's great reveal of Trump's taxes to show that in fact, she had nothing. Actually, she showed that he paid his taxes. If he did anything creative, I doubt it's an impeach offense. I doubt any tax irregularity is, including not paying tax, like, ever.
The fact is, this push started on election day, so its credibility is zero.
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Dreamtrove, the Watergate proceedings were broadcast live for two weeks in May 1973. Cambodia was NOT mentioned even once, but you are using a war that did NOT end Nixon's career to drag in Obama's mission into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Congressional Republicans didn't object to Obama killing Pakistanis. Republicans never care.
Dreamtrove, Watergate was not about Cambodia. It was about "illegal, improper, or unethical conduct occurring during the presidential election of 1972, including political espionage and campaign finance practices". That is pure Trump 2016 territory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Watergate_Committee
V.P. Agnew got caught cheating on his taxes and had to choose between resigning or going to jail, all over a measly $10,000 in taxes. That is pure Trump 1980 to 2016 territory. He promised to release his tax returns, but he did not.
www.vox.com/2017/3/14/14930362/what-is-trump-hiding-in-tax-returns
Nixon's Vice-President Spiro Agnew also got caught taking bribes and, again, he had to resign or go to jail over a measly $268,482 in bribes. That is pure Trump territory because he has NOT placed his businesses into a blind trust as he promised. Trump has a nice scam where he can take bribes from foreign governments. That will get him evicted from the White House, if only the Republicans in Congress would insist that either Trump follow the Constitution or else resign.
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trumps-ethics-train-wreck
/513446/
But Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan don't care to preform their job, which is policing the behavior of the President. If they won't do, it does not get done.
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Nixon wasn't impeached as soon as he came into office, in fact, he was re-elected to a second term. After 6 years, they'd had enough. The kicker was anillegal war in Cambodia. I don't have an issue with Nixon's mission in Cambodia. I really completely agree with him: Khmer Rouge was much more of a threat to the locals than the VC. However, he should've sought congressional approval.
So why wasn't Obama impeached for an illegal war in Pakistan? I have an answer to that one, and it's a bad one, but probably true. It was too soon. He crossed the border into Pakistan and started an illegal war right out the starting gate. IOW, not going to happen.
Yemen isn't impeachabble because we were already in Yemen, and ditto for ISIS. If he invades Iran, or launches a full out war against Syria, without congressional approval, then you might have something.
Treason is clear. And bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors is language copied from Wat Tyler, and refers to a blatant betrayal of public trust, such as levying taxes and then pocketing the funds instead of spending them in the budget. It was never intended to remove elected officials form office and has never been used to do so.
http://www.crf-usa.org/impeachment/high-crimes-and-misdemeanors.html
BTW, abandon the tax nonsense, it's hurting your argument. We all watched Maddow's great reveal of Trump's taxes to show that in fact, she had nothing. Actually, she showed that he paid his taxes. If he did anything creative, I doubt it's an impeach offense. I doubt any tax irregularity is, including not paying tax, like, ever.
The fact is, this push started on election day, so its credibility is zero.
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SECOND, think about why it would be that dreamtrove/sockpuppet doesn't understand Watergate. She is just spewing subjective bullshit to see what sticks. No one who represents this country is anything but wrong to her and some others here.
Their arguments are two dimensional, black and white. All the hard decisions based on the different nuances or facts as they are, are dismissed out of hand by them. In all their posted hypotheses. It all seems very simple the way they discuss it. Again, black and white. And that's the flaw in everything they post. Most of what is needed to be considered, with them is not. An example, is Obama having to decide to conduct drone strikes in Pakistan. There are people there acting with impunity planning to bomb us. It leaves him little choice. No, their agenda is not an honest discussion. No, their agenda is to point fingers. It's all they ever do, point fingers and attach blame.
Hey guys, here's a 
for you. 
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Originally posted by second:
Dreamtrove, the Watergate proceedings were broadcast live for two weeks in May 1973. Cambodia was NOT mentioned even once, but you are using a war that did NOT end Nixon's career to drag in Obama's mission into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Congressional Republicans didn't object to Obama killing Pakistanis. Republicans never care.
Dreamtrove, Watergate was not about Cambodia. It was about "illegal, improper, or unethical conduct occurring during the presidential election of 1972, including political espionage and campaign finance practices". That is pure Trump 2016 territory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Watergate_Committee
V.P. Agnew got caught cheating on his taxes and had to choose between resigning or going to jail, all over a measly $10,000 in taxes. That is pure Trump 1980 to 2016 territory. He promised to release his tax returns, but he did not.
www.vox.com/2017/3/14/14930362/what-is-trump-hiding-in-tax-returns
Nixon's Vice-President Spiro Agnew also got caught taking bribes and, again, he had to resign or go to jail over a measly $268,482 in bribes. That is pure Trump territory because he has NOT placed his businesses into a blind trust as he promised. Trump has a nice scam where he can take bribes from foreign governments. That will get him evicted from the White House, if only the Republicans in Congress would insist that either Trump follow the Constitution or else resign.
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trumps-ethics-train-wreck
/513446/
But Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan don't care to preform their job, which is policing the behavior of the President. If they won't do, it does not get done. Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Nixon wasn't impeached as soon as he came into office, in fact, he was re-elected to a second term. After 6 years, they'd had enough. The kicker was anillegal war in Cambodia. I don't have an issue with Nixon's mission in Cambodia. I really completely agree with him: Khmer Rouge was much more of a threat to the locals than the VC. However, he should've sought congressional approval.
So why wasn't Obama impeached for an illegal war in Pakistan? I have an answer to that one, and it's a bad one, but probably true. It was too soon. He crossed the border into Pakistan and started an illegal war right out the starting gate. IOW, not going to happen.
Yemen isn't impeachabble because we were already in Yemen, and ditto for ISIS. If he invades Iran, or launches a full out war against Syria, without congressional approval, then you might have something.
Treason is clear. And bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors is language copied from Wat Tyler, and refers to a blatant betrayal of public trust, such as levying taxes and then pocketing the funds instead of spending them in the budget. It was never intended to remove elected officials form office and has never been us
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Hey, it is almost 2PM on a Monday in DC. Probably Trump has done something nuts to start the workweek, right? What happened with the China meeting?
I know that the summit meeting with the Chinese premier got overshadowed by the Syria bombing, but I'm still curious: did anything happen at all when Xi and Trump met? I saw nothing. Not even "insider" accounts of what "really" happened between the two men. That's a little odd, isn't it?
Trump has his 'What am I doing here?' face on. Or it could be Trump's 'What does the chink want from me?' face. Maybe American bullshit, Trump-style, does not translate into Mandarin? Trump can't work his persuasive magic on Xi, who is amused at Trump's pretensions and funny looking hair.
https://qz.com/951317/trump-xi-summit-at-mar-a-lago-these-two-photos-p
erfectly-illustrate-how-us-china-relations-have-hardened-in-the-past-40-years/
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Hey, it is almost 2PM on a Monday in DC. Probably Trump has done something nuts to start the workweek, right?
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
So sad to hear of the terrorist attack in Egypt. I have great confidence that President Al Sisi will handle situation properly.
10:21 AM-9 Apr 2017 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/851092618754891781
Great confidence, Trump has! Egyptian President el-Sisi responds, with Trump's 100% support:
Late Sunday night, President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi called for a three-month state of emergency....The army chief-turned-president also dispatched elite troops across the country to protect key installations and accused unidentified countries of fueling instability, saying that “Egyptians have foiled plots and efforts by countries and fascist, terrorist organizations that tried to control Egypt.”
As always, we're left to wonder why Trump loves el-Sisi so much? Is it because Trump is an unusually brutal foreign policy realist? Because Obama didn't like el-Sisi? Because Trump will declare martial law, given a chance? It's a nutty mystery.
www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/egypt-state-media-bombing-at-
church-in-nile-delta/2017/04/09/ecb292d0-1cfc-11e7-8598-9a99da559f9e_story.html?utm_term=.85828867084b
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Second,
And Clinton was about Monica Lewinsky. Keep telling yourself that.
It's a matter of determining the president is a traitor first. Then you get momentum for impeachment. But first you need a term of bad. Otherwise, you're just upending democracy.
WACO, Rwanda, Yugoslavia, all horrid CLinton decisions that led to impeachment. Those were the original impeachment items. Then they were replaced by Monica, which was a technicality from Linda Tripp who wasn't trying to impeach the president, she was trying to get Hillary arrested for the murder of Vince Foster.
Thing is, the deep state doesn't want to openly oppose the war, because they want to keep fighting it when someone new comes in. They don't want the public talking about it, or the public will say why fight the war at all? rather than how we should fight it.
So, it was Cambodia, and not getting out of Vietnam and to some extent the 18 voting age. They were unhappy. Watergate itself was probably a set-up.
Nick, whatever, you're a sockpuppet.
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Trump dreamtrove, he is president. Clinton is long gone. I've come to realize what it is with you and some others here. You guys are late to catch up. At this rate you won't be taking about what Trump fucked up until he is no longer in office. That's when your bitch fest about him will begin. Well guys, it'll be much to late then. And besides, when you dip into the past you usually get it wrong. Your conspiracy thinking patterns and all getting in the way of the truth. 
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Second,
And Clinton was about Monica Lewinsky. Keep telling yourself that.
It's a matter of determining the president is a traitor first. Then you get momentum for impeachment. But first you need a term of bad. Otherwise, you're just upending democracy.
WACO, Rwanda, Yugoslavia, all horrid CLinton decisions that led to impeachment. Those were the original impeachment items. Then they were replaced by Monica, which was a technicality from Linda Tripp who wasn't trying to impeach the president, she was trying to get Hillary arrested for the murder of Vince Foster.
Thing is, the deep state doesn't want to openly oppose the war, because they want to keep fighting it when someone new comes in. They don't want the public talking about it, or the public will say why fight the war at all? rather than how we should fight it.
So, it was Cambodia, and not getting out of Vietnam and to some extent the 18 voting age. They were unhappy. Watergate itself was probably a set-up.
Nick, whatever, you're a sockpuppet.
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Nick,
I've already attacked Trump a view times, over Yemen, over the bombing in Syria. So have others. We're not us guys. There's no alignment of our motives, actions or views. We're just not in the hate group. It's like any other hate group. Everyone not in it might look like a conspiracy, but really we're "everyone else." 6, River, Sig, JSF, they aren't at all of the same perspective.
As for Clinton, she's not gone, and her impact on the US won't be gone for a long time. Obama supporters talked about Bush for the whole 8 years Obama was in office. It's not going to go away. It seems very much that HRC is still commanding ISIS. That said, there's been a slow shift of attacks away from her and onto John McCain.
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Good thing you're here to fight the good fight then, huh T?
Let us know what your bitching accomplishes.
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