Out Like Flynn!

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THGRRI

Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:43 PM

No 1kiki, that's how SIG responded to my request for cites. So I asked for them again. You know that, you're the liar here and that's nothing new.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Actually, what you asked for were cites that you're a deep state troll. I can't believe it, but you're so fucking dishonest you lie about your own posts, with quotes that disprove your own lies.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look, the deep state troll just posted.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Cites please

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Cites please SIG. I've been asking for cites showing where you got the information

Cites please.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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THGRRI

Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:48 PM

The Republicans are blocking appointing a special prosecutor to investigate Trumps ties to Russia. But they want to investigate the leaks. Keeps in mind, the leak was truthful and without it Flynn would still be national security adviser. He would still be sitting in on our countries most sensitive intelligence updates. Even Trump said he asked for his resignation because he couldn't be trusted.

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Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump then spent the early morning Wednesday unhappily tweeting about this:

This Russian connection non-sense is merely an attempt to cover-up the many mistakes made in Hillary Clinton's losing campaign.
6:08 AM -15 Feb 2017

If in fact all of this is “non-sense,” Trump has the power as president to make that clear immediately - by declassifying all government intercepts of communications between Russian nationals and anyone in his orbit.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/15/trump-has-the-power-to-declassify-
whatever-he-wants-including-the-russian-intercepts/

Trump has the power to declassify anything he wants, right now. But I think that is as unlikely to happen as Trump declassifying his income tax returns, you know, the returns he promised to publicize to show America what a truthful businessman he is, with no hidden, dishonest dealings.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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SIGNYM

Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:19 PM

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If Trump had really intended to drain the swamp, fight the deep state, make America great, he should have planned ahead.

Agreed

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Signym, that means it is not an either/or choice between "deep state? Or the Trump state." I don't think Trump has the brainpower or stamina to run the government. That leaves nobody in charge.

"Nobody" is not a choice. It's either the elected President of the USA, at least nominally in charge, or it's whoever the deep state chooses. You and I don't have a choice of "neither of the above".

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Trump could respond to your idea (certainly not mine) of the entire CIA staging a coup d'état against Trump by retaliating.

And hopefully, if Trump can't figure out a way, his advisors can, and he will be smart enough to listen.

I voted for Trump for a reason. I knew ahead of time, and said so quite often, than Trump would be a loose cannon and- look!- Trump is a loose cannon! But Trump is NOT a deep-stater, or a transnational global financialist; he's far too nationalistic for that. IF I HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN BACKING INTERNATIONAL FASCISM VERSUS NATIONAL FASCISM, I'LL CHOOSE NATIONAL FASCISM. Because if the control is here, in the USA, WE (Americans) have the possibility of fighting for our future. But if the nexus of control is spread across the globe, and the USA has no more control over its own economic, environmental, energy, labor etc policies than (say) Greece, but must bend to the will of some unreachable unelected organization someplace else ... WHAT THEN, SECOND?

I thought that if Trump was elected, I - and others who feel like me- would be fighting Trump on a number of issues, either at the state level (under states rights) or at the Federal level, with every LEGAL, DEMOCRATIC means at our disposal. And in four years, or eight- depending on how quickly a viable left-of-center candidate is put forward - we will start fulfilling the will of the American people.

But a bunch of idiots- like you- who whine, bitch, moan, and riot against the FACT of the Trump Presidency - who are willing to use, approve of, and abet non-democratic means to "get rid of Trump" .... who would cheer on the deep state to fulfill your media-inflamed short-sighted temper tantrum .... are a bigger danger to our freedom than Trump himself.

So, gee thanks.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:37 PM

And I'm not the only left-of-center person to think so* (*see above):

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"Wake Up America" Dennis Kucinich Defends Trump, Issues Dire Warning About "Deep State"

In the interview, Kucinich blamed factions of the US intelligence community for wanting to end any positive relationship between Russia and the US, hoping for a return of the cold war.

"...the American people have to know that there's a game going on inside the intelligence community... at the bottom of all this is the fact that there are those that seek to separate US from Russia to reignite the cold war... wake up America!!"

Kucinich did not see this as an anti-Trump game, but rather an anti-Russia game:

“It’s not just this administration. I want to remind the views and all those who are on the panel that in the closing months of the Obama administration, they put together a deal with Russia to create peace in Syria. A few days later, a military strike in Syria killed a hundred Syrian soldiers and that ended the agreement. What happened is inside the intelligence and the Pentagon there was a deliberate effort to sabotage an agreement the White House made.”

This is like “Deep State” said Kucinich.

I'm taking a LEFT WING stance, not a RIGHT WING one. People on the left- like Glenn Greenwald, Kucinich, and Matt Taibbi - know where it's at. Obama was not a "left wing" President, any more than Hillary was a "left wing" candidate. Liberals are so used to identifying themselves ... and anyone who claims to be a liberal ... as some sort of enlightened left-of-center group that when they get criticized FROM THE LEFT they don't even recognize where the criticism is coming from - they assume it's from the right.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THGRRI

Thursday, February 16, 2017 9:59 PM

Shit SIG, this is all quoted from zerohedge except the one regarding Flynn. Can't you ever tell the truth? Your refusal to stop lying, and posting from sources that are known to be lying, removes any doubt of you being a troll. Daily SIG, daily, you are shown to be posting lies. It also proves once again you have no intention of being an honest broker in these threads. I'm still waiting for your cites showing were you got your information on a CIA coup taking place in America. I'm sure I'll wait till hell freezes over because we both know that's a lie as well.

Content Checked For Plagiarism:

Wake Up America" Dennis Kucinich Defends Trump, Issues Dire Warning About "Deep State"

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-16/wake-america-dennis-kucinich-
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/is-michael-flynn-the-first-casu
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And I'm not the only left-of-center person to think so* (*see above):

Quote:
"Wake Up America" Dennis Kucinich Defends Trump, Issues Dire Warning About "Deep State"

In the interview, Kucinich blamed factions of the US intelligence community for wanting to end any positive relationship between Russia and the US, hoping for a return of the cold war.

"...the American people have to know that there's a game going on inside the intelligence community... at the bottom of all this is the fact that there are those that seek to separate US from Russia to reignite the cold war... wake up America!!"

Kucinich did not see this as an anti-Trump game, but rather an anti-Russia game:

“It’s not just this administration. I want to remind the views and all those who are on the panel that in the closing months of the Obama administration, they put together a deal with Russia to create peace in Syria. A few days later, a military strike in Syria killed a hundred Syrian soldiers and that ended the agreement. What happened is inside the intelligence and the Pentagon there was a deliberate effort to sabotage an agreement the White House made.”

This is like “Deep State” said Kucinich.

I'm taking a LEFT WING stance, not a RIGHT WING one. People on the left- like Glenn Greenwald, Kucinich, and Matt Taibbi - know where it's at. Obama was not a "left wing" President, Hillary was not a "left wing" candidate. Liberals are so used to identifying themselves ... and anyone who claims to be a liberal ... as some sort of enlightened left-of-center group that when they get criticized FROM THE LEFT they don't even recognize where the criticism is coming from - they assume it's from the right.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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SIGNYM

Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:13 PM

THUGR, your ability to resist the truth is amazing. You get an award for sticking your head up your ass and firmly keeping it there.

Here is Kucinich, per the link helpfully provided by Zerohedge, and he has a LOT MORE to say about this than the deep state. Much of his criticism is pointed directly at you and people like you, THUGR, for being idiots, puppets, patsies, dupes... whatever you want to call it.

And what's with posting the same link a half-dozen times? Do you think it makes you look like you did some "research"?

heh heh heh
THUGR IS A DEEP STATE TROLL
AND A LIAR

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THGRRI

Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:46 PM

Again you miss the point. You keep going back to the well of misinformation as your source. What you posted was written by people who HIDE THEIR IDENTIES. I check a lot of your quotes out before I read them. If they come from a bullshit source I won't read them. I'll just point that out.

The other thing is that you found someone who wrongfully believes it's our intelligence agencies that are driving the message. It's not, it's Russian activities that are driving the message; globally. And it is patriots, and Trumps own advisors who are engaged in a power struggle amongst themselves, that are leaking.

The problem you and Kucinich share is that the leaked information is true. Nothing you post changes that. Also it's worse than just Flynn. Others in Trumps campaign were in contact with the Russians during, and after, the campaign. That is also true and being investigated.

Just another negative anti-American post by SIG THE TROLL.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, your ability to resist the truth is amazing. You get an award for sticking your head up your ass and firmly keeping it there.

Here is Kucinich, per the link helpfully provided by Zerohedge, and he has a LOT MORE to say about this than the deep state. Much of his criticism is pointed directly at you and people like you, THUGR, for being idiots, puppets, patsies, dupes... whatever you want to call it.

And what's with posting the same link a half-dozen times? Do you think it makes you look like you did some "research"?

heh heh heh
THUGR IS A DEEP STATE TROLL
AND A LIAR

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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SIGNYM

Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:09 PM

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Again you miss the point. You keep going back to the well of misinformation as your source. What you posted was written by people who HIDE THEIR IDENTITIES.

BUT POST LINKS TO THE ORIGINAL SOURCE. SO THAT YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT TOO LAZY OR STUPID, (you seem to be both) CAN FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.

And having had your ass handed to you on what Kucinich said ... and how he implicitly criticized deep-state tools like you ... you try to divert the conversation and bury the posts. That doesn't even deserve a "nice try", troll.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:35 PM

REPOSTED

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If Trump had really intended to drain the swamp, fight the deep state, make America great, he should have planned ahead.

Agreed

Quote:
Signym, that means it is not an either/or choice between "deep state? Or the Trump state." I don't think Trump has the brainpower or stamina to run the government. That leaves nobody in charge.

"Nobody" is not a choice. It's either the elected President of the USA, at least nominally in charge, or it's whoever the deep state chooses. You and I don't have a choice of "neither of the above".

Quote:
Trump could respond to your idea (certainly not mine) of the entire CIA staging a coup d'état against Trump by retaliating.

And hopefully, if Trump can't figure out a way, his advisors can, and he will be smart enough to listen.

I voted for Trump for a reason. I knew ahead of time, and said so quite often, than Trump would be a loose cannon and- look!- Trump is a loose cannon! But Trump is NOT a deep-stater, or a transnational global financialist; he's far too nationalistic for that. IF I HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN BACKING INTERNATIONAL FASCISM VERSUS NATIONAL FASCISM, I'LL CHOOSE NATIONAL FASCISM. Because if the control is here, in the USA, WE (Americans) have the possibility of fighting for our future. But if the nexus of control is spread across the globe, and the USA has no more control over its own economic, environmental, energy, labor etc policies than (say) Greece, but must bend to the will of some unreachable unelected organization someplace else ... WHAT THEN, SECOND?

I thought that if Trump was elected, I - and others who feel like me- would be fighting Trump on a number of issues, either at the state level (under states rights) or at the Federal level, with every LEGAL, DEMOCRATIC means at our disposal. And in four years, or eight- depending on how quickly a viable left-of-center candidate is put forward - we will start fulfilling the will of the American people.

But a bunch of idiots- like you- who whine, bitch, moan, and riot against the FACT of the Trump Presidency - who are willing to use, approve of, and abet non-democratic means to "get rid of Trump" .... who would cheer on the deep state to fulfill your media-inflamed short-sighted temper tantrum .... are a bigger danger to our freedom than Trump himself.

So, gee thanks.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:36 PM

REPOSTED
THUGR, your ability to resist the truth is amazing. You get an award for sticking your head up your ass and firmly keeping it there.

Here is Kucinich, per the link helpfully provided by Zerohedge, and he has a LOT MORE to say about this than the deep state. Much of his criticism is pointed directly at you and people like you, THUGR, for being idiots, puppets, patsies, dupes... whatever you want to call it.

And what's with posting the same link a half-dozen times? Do you think it makes you look like you did some "research"?

heh heh heh
THUGR IS A DEEP STATE TROLL
AND A LIAR

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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