Bernie Sanders Discussion Thread
POSTED BY: reaverfan
UPDATED: Monday, July 27, 2026 16:39
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It's a political statement using sarcasm .... So what if I'm being a jerk, sometimes that is needed to get a point across.- SIGNY
Being a jerk is sometimes necessary to get your point across, but I have no idea what point that would be, and I daresay neither does anyone else.
So let's start with something simple:
"You want to know the real reason why I laugh at this post.............Because,
it's so heavily "doctored" it's not even FUNNY." WHICH post is doctored? The Youtube of Hillary beaming and giggling because she just got someone killed? - SIGNY
What else are we talking about?- SGG
The Youtube video of one of Hillary's most widely-quoted statement is "doctored"? Don't believe Youtube? How about CBS, which did the interview?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-on-qaddafi-we-came-we-saw-he-died/
She was variously described as "cackling", "chuckling", "joking", "laughing" in different media outlets. Sorry SHINY, but you're 100% wrong: that was all Hillary, all the time.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It is kinda funny........lmao -SGG
Which part's funny? The part where Clinton turned Libya into a failed state crawling with jihadists? Or the part where she's so happy about it?
Probably the part where she can blame Conservatives for her failures and ineptness, knowing that the gullible like SGG will worship everything she says.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
SGG
Have you read the article? Just curious. You mean the one I quoted from beginning to end, with the FULL context of the questions and each entire reply in green; rather than the dishonestly reported version 2nd posted? Yes.
A woman has a major leak in her house. She steps outside her door to find 2 people waiting there. One has his truck parked in the driveway and it says 'licensed plumber' and he's wearing overalls with his name above his left breast pocket that says "Bob" The other is her next door neighbor Susie, in her yoga pants and brand new Reeboks holding a Do-It-Yourself book that reads "Plumbing For Dummies" written on the cover. Yours is a wildly inaccurate analogy. The more accurate analogy would be - she sees a blind licensed electrician with a truck that says on its side "we break it"; and she also sees her concerned neighbor who says "we need to find a way to fix that". Because Hillary has never even admitted to the existence of the problems Bernie focuses on. That's why the woman with the major leaks sees a blind electrician, not a sighted plumber. Also, every decision of Hillary's has led to a disaster. Well, maybe those were her intended goals, but they look like disasters for the American people from where I am. That's why the logo on the truck says "we break it". Meanwhile, Bernie comes over, sees the leak, thinks it's a problem, and goes about finding the fix for it.
Who do you think has the better chance of fixing the leak?
But the leak is not there.
And when you get her to see the leak, it will have just popped up out of nowhere, not existing when you said it did, and she can blame the conservatives because the leak was caused by their witch hunt conducted years after the leak started.
Otherwise an accurate analogy.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It is second, not SECOND.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, I assume that you posted those extended (negative) opinion pieces about Sanders because you agree with them.
As you know, I'm not a huge Bernie fan. But the thought of voting for that evil witch Clinton (with apologies to witches everywhere) makes me gag.
In all fairness, should point out that many times, such as now in this thread, your name posts as SECOND, all capitals. Sometimes names do post as all lower case, sometimes mine posts as all caps or only caps for JSF. But please do not be offended if we do not see how you intended, because I don't even see mine posting the same all the time. Unless you sign your every post, like SGG.
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Pretty soon that will make no difference because the witch will beat Bernie. Then the noise machine will be turned on the witch, but it has been noisily pointing out the witch's faults since Benghazi and the emails, however many years ago that started.
To summarize:
1) I prefer Obama to Clinton or Bernie, but I can't have Obama because of far-sighted Republicans acting in 1947.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_St
ates_Constitution
2) Bernie has little chance at this second of being elected President and very soon everyone will know he has no chance.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new
-york-democratic/
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-res
ults.html?_r=0
It appears the Reut6ers poll has Bernie ahead 49-48% in their 9-13 April poll, flipped from their 2-6 April poll.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-
primary
other polls show Hilliary with leads of 6% in Connecticut, 6% in PA, 6% in CA - all far less than the supposed and announced leads she had in Michigan and some other lost Primaries. Those delegate counts seem to be 55-CT, 189-PA, 475-CA.
I don't count Brooklyn-born Bernie out against Carpetbagger Clinton yet.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
http://you
tu.be/FmIRYvJQeHM\Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It is kinda funny........lmao -SGG
Which part's funny? The part where Clinton turned Libya into a failed state crawling with jihadists? Or the part where she's so happy about it?
Actually, BOTH!!! HI-larious!!!
You know what else is funny, how Libya is the only thing NOT Obama's fault.
Bush invades Iraq, well that's fine. Kills, or has killed, Sadam; oh, that's
applauded.............downright laughable.
Then Obama gets Osama (hey that rhymes!) and he's BBQ'd for actually doing
something right, and something that Bush had promised.
Stop it, my sides are hurting......lol
Benghazi Committee is actually set to meet AGAIN! Ha, ha I'm dying here. It is
now officially the longest government-sponsored investigation in America's
history, and the least effective.
http://democrats-benghazi.house.gov/news/press-releases/benghazi-commi
ttee-now-one-of-the-longest-and-least-active-congressional
"During this time, the Select Committee has identified no evidence to
support claims that Secretary Clinton ordered a stand-down, approved an
illicit weapons program, or any of the other wild allegations about the
Benghazi attacks Republicans have made about her for years."
Stop it, stop it you're killing me............lmao
SfGG
They might be able to wrap it up if they just look for the classified emails under Hilliary's Rose Law Firm Billing Records hidden in her closet of the White House, or wherever it is these days - maybe her super duper Sercret Service Agent's car trunk, or Server case.
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An article about Bernie ended with:
This year, the insurgency is larger than it’s ever been, and that in itself is an opportunity. A chance for the insurgents to play the long game, to co-opt the institutions that have held them back and to emerge as the leaders of a new Democratic Party. Sanders may not be the Democratic nominee, or the president of the United States, but if his supporters take the opportunity, they’ll accomplish what past insurgent candidacies couldn’t, and he’ll stand as a key figure in the origin story of a new, new left.
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/04/there_is_
no_bernie_sanders_movement.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:I think Bernie's candidacy, along with the Democracy Spring event in DC are a continuation of the Occupy movement. They're all about the same issues.
Originally posted by second:
An article about Bernie ended with:
This year, the insurgency is larger than it’s ever been, and that in itself is an opportunity. A chance for the insurgents to play the long game, to co-opt the institutions that have held them back and to emerge as the leaders of a new Democratic Party. Sanders may not be the Democratic nominee, or the president of the United States, but if his supporters take the opportunity, they’ll accomplish what past insurgent candidacies couldn’t, and he’ll stand as a key figure in the origin story of a new, new left.
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/04/there_is_
no_bernie_sanders_movement.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I'm curious.....Has Bernie done anything of note? Please post!
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you're focusing on the most trivial aspect of my post. Firstly, Texas is NOT reflective of the greater USA, no matter how "diverse" you think it is.
But more importantly, are you so wedded to having "a Democrat" in office that you don't care that that particular Democrat is so wedded to big money and neocon interests that she's a DINO (Democrat in Name Only)?
Except for some "social policy" differences with the GOP .... which is the least of our problems right now ... Hillary is a warmongering, bankster-loving, welfare-cutting, free-trade groupie. That woman has been a disaster thru her entire career. She voted for the Iraq War, which was the prominent reason for her defeat by Obama, and is endlessly quoted by the reichwing here for her endless justifications (at the time) of that misguided vote.
There is nothing important (ie outside of some social policy votes) that she's gotten right in her entire career. As far as I can tell, she's a bank/CIA whore. I challenge you to find one thing that redeems her. Take your time. I'll be interested in the results.
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Bernie's always been a "voice in the wilderness." He's been amazingly prescient and 100% correct on the issues, but we're dealing with a congress of paid whores.
Elected by the state of Vermont 8 times to serve in the House of Representatives.
The longest-serving independent in U.S. congressional history.
He was dubbed the “amendment king” in the House of Representatives for passing more amendments than any other member of Congress.
Ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee.
Former student organizer for the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC).
Led the first ever civil rights sit-in in Chicago history to protest segregated housing.
In 1963, Bernie Sanders participated in MLK’s Civil Rights March. One of only 2 sitting US Senators to have heard MLK’s “I have a Dream Speech” in person in the march on Washington, DC.
Former professor of political science at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government and at Hamilton College.
Former mayor of Burlington, VT. In a stunning upset in 1981, Sanders won the mayoral race in Burlington, Vermont’s largest city. He shocked the city’s political establishment by defeating a six-term, local machine mayor. Burlington is now reported to be one of the most livable cities in the nation.
Co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus and chaired the group for its first 8 years.
Both the NAACP and the NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) have given Sanders 100% voting scores during his tenure in the Senate. Earns a D- from the NRA.
1984: Mayor Sanders established the Burlington Community Land Trust, the first municipal housing land-trust in the country for affordable housing. The project becomes a model emulated throughout the world. It later wins an award from Jack Kemp-led HUD.
1991: one of a handful in Congress to vote against authorizing US military force in Iraq. “I have a real fear that the region is not going to be more peaceful or more stable after the war,” he said at the time.
1992: Congress passes Sanders’ first signed piece of legislation to create the National Program of Cancer Registries. A Reader’s Digest article calls the law “the cancer weapon America needs most.” All 50 states now run registries to help cancer researchers gain important insights.
November 1993: Sanders votes against the Clinton-era North American Free Trade Agreement. Returning from a tour of factories in Mexico, Sanders says: “If NAFTA passes, corporate profits will soar because it will be even easier than now for American companies to flee to Mexico and hire workers there for starvation wages.”
July 1996: Sanders is one of only 67 (out of 435, 15%) votes against the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act, which denied federal benefits to same-sex couples legally married. Sanders urged the Supreme Court to throw out the law, which it did in a landmark 2013 ruling – some 17 years later.
July 1999: Standing up against the major pharmaceutical companies, Sanders becomes the first member of Congress to personally take seniors across the border to Canada to buy lower-cost prescription drugs. The congressman continues his bus trips to Canada with a group of breast cancer patients the following April. These brave women are able to purchase their medications in Canada for almost one-tenth the price charged in the States.
August 1999: An overflow crowd of Vermonters packs a St. Michael’s College town hall meeting hosted by Sanders to protest an IBM plan to cut older workers’ pensions by as much as 50 percent. CBS Evening News with Dan Rather and The New York Times cover the event. After IBM enacts the plan, Sanders works to reverse the cuts, passing a pair of amendments to prohibit the federal government from acting to overturn a federal district court decision that ruled that IBM’s plan violated pension age discrimination laws. Thanks to Sanders’ efforts, IBM agreed to a $320 million legal settlement with some 130,000 IBM workers and retirees.
November 1999: About 10 years before the 2008 Wall Street c
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Quote:I just picked this one accomplishment at random. And what did I find? Click: www.snopes.com/sanders-mlk-selma-march/
Originally posted by reaverfan:
In 1963, Bernie Sanders participated in MLK’s Civil Rights March. One of only 2 sitting US Senators to have heard MLK’s “I have a Dream Speech” in person in the march on Washington, DC.
I would have preferred that Bernie could list as one of his accomplishments: "Beat a Republican Senator senseless and Grand Jury refused to indict after hearing Bernie's testimony."
www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2016/04/19
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