Bernie Sanders Discussion Thread
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UPDATED: Monday, July 27, 2026 16:39
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Just yesterday.................pretty becoming
Pretty darn awful, and becoming worse!
Ha, I kill me!
SfGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SGG, when did you turn into a jerk?
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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Right you are! I totally agree - Trump or Bernie should win, then we'll really see this country fly above all others. America will be Great Again!
SGG
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"I do hope Democrats would vote for a witch rather than stay home and let the Republicans win."
If the "Democratic" Party didn't learn from their losses in governorships over the last couple of decades, in the House, and in the Senate, maybe they'll learn if they lose the White House.
I kinda don't think so, but there's always a chance. And it would serve them right if Republicans elected the first populist president instead of the usual party handmaiden.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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It's a political statement using sarcasm. You guys spout off and make some
serious claims, mix in some "facts" and then complain when someone protests.
We are all here to express our opinion, right or wrong, which is an American
right and tradition.
Do you wish to deny me that right? So what if I'm being a jerk, sometimes that is needed to get a point across.
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SGG, when did you turn into a jerk?
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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You want to know the real reason why I laugh at this post.............Because,
it's so heavily "doctored" it's not even FUNNY.
SfGG
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SGG, when did you turn into a jerk?
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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Right you are! I totally agree - Trump or Bernie should win, then we'll really see this country fly above all others. America will be Great Again!
SGG
Are you drunk? High? Stoned? What's going on SGG? You're incoherent. Trump and Bernie aren't the same. And you may have noticed 'make America great again' is the Trumpette's slogan, not Bernie's.
What I'm getting from you and 2nd is that you fear Trump and despise Bernie - but neither of you have been able to point to one solid reason - backed up by history or experience - as to why Shrillary would be so great. And why the serious baggage of her bad decisions, bad policies, and bad company should be ignored.
Why should anyone vote FOR her? What is she going to do to stabilize the areas the US (and Shrillary herself) destabilized? Is she going to escalate tensions with Russia or deescalate them? And do you think limited nuclear warfare is possible? How will she deal with Israel's illegal behavior? What will she do to protect the economy from 'too big to fail' banks? Will she reverse 'bail-in' policies? Is she for or against 'free trade' pacts? And will she be the same tomorrow? There are critical issues facing the US where Shrillary has either been on the wrong side, or is silent.
As president, will she address them them in ways that represent the interests of us, the citizens of this country? Neither of you can answer that.
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Quote:Being a jerk is sometimes necessary to get your point across, but I have no idea what point that would be, and I daresay neither does anyone else.
It's a political statement using sarcasm .... So what if I'm being a jerk, sometimes that is needed to get a point across.
So let's start with something simple:
Quote:WHICH post is doctored? The Youtube of Hillary beaming and giggling because she just got someone killed?
You want to know the real reason why I laugh at this post.............Because,
it's so heavily "doctored" it's not even FUNNY.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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2nd's tilted posts - a sampler
I was trying to get a sense of 2nd's thinking. But her posts were so incredibly dishonest and one-sided, all I came away with was the impression of a person with absolutely no integrity. And also, highly partisan, but not because of any support for Clinton's policies.
reasons to vote against Bernie
Sanders persuaded the jet’s manufacturer to put a research center in Vermont and bring 18 jets to the state National Guard.
what 2nd left out of her post from the same article
Even the Democrats are in on the game. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has yet to propose a military budget, but she has long pledged strong support for the troops.
now for some completely fictitious commentary
Just like he is getting more youthful looking and, any day now in order to win the general election, will be embracing Christ and throwing aside his Judaism/atheism/socialism.
Bernie has simple, crowd-pleasing answers to every question. He's for X, full stop. He's against Y, end of story. There's no nuance. As for Hillary's disastrous record ... crickets.
On whether Bernie supports fracking: "My answer is a lot shorter. No, I do not support fracking." And what is Hillary's policy? Surely there must be some statement amongst all the 'nuance'.
On reforming Wall Street: "If a bank is too big to fail, it is too big to exist....Within one year, my administration will break these institutions up so that they no longer pose a grave threat to the economy." And Hillary? Does she even consider it a problem?
On whether there's even a "single circumstance" in which abortion should be illegal: "That is a decision to be made by the woman, her physician and her family. That's my view." What about Hillary?
On prison reform: "I promise at the end of my first term we won't have more people in jail than in any other country." And Hillary's position?
First, the Sanders campaign needs to stop feeding the right-wing disinformation machine. Engaging in innuendo suggesting, without evidence, that Clinton is corrupt ... In the video 2nd posted? Or the link? It didn't happen.
The entire future of America was suppose to depend on Ralph in the White House. Only Ralph could save the Nation. Nobody I knew, no story I read, ever made that point. Now there goes 2nd again, making up stuff. It's called a strawman argument and is a form of dishonesty.
I checked the betting sites. Bernie will not be President is a safe bet.
There was an article 2nd posted about Bernie where snippets of phrases were cut out of entire sentences Bernie said, and those isolated phrases were posted AS IF they were Bernie's entire answer. FOR SHAME 2nd. Talk about blatant dishonesty.
I am being mean to tired, old man Bernie but the easy slogan here is “Break up the big banks.” It’s obvious why this slogan is appealing from a political point of view: Wall Street supplies an excellent cast of villains. And Hillary's position? ... But were big banks really at the heart of the financial crisis, yes and would breaking them up protect us from future crises? yes On the rare occ
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post to flip the database display out of a poorly defined state
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Quote:I am going to contradict you on your notion that Democrats will NOT "stay home". With the tiniest excuse, Texans Democrats will not vote. In Texas, Democrats do "stay home" all the time and that has warped state politics into a weirdness never seen before.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND . . . You've usually been rational in the past, why are you so emotional over this discussion?
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Now, personally, I can't imagine many Democrats who would "stay home" if either Cruz or Trump were on the ticket, no matter WHO is on the Democrat side.
There are 14,000,000 registered voters in Texas. 5,000,000 more did not register, so that is 19,000,000 voters. Less than 5,000,000 vote for governor. From that, and personal observation, I draw the conclusion that Democrats are simply letting 2.8 million Republicans take control of the entire state at all levels of government, from highest to lowest.
www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/historical/70-92.shtml
Repeating myself: The population is not Republican, but Texas government is Republican because Democrats are not voting. I know Democrats who think Republican Governor Greg Abbott is a “Democrat” and think that Bush was the most recent Republican Governor. I explain it to them and they say "Oh!" and they understand, but give them a few months and they go right back to confusing who is Republican and Democrat.
Unlike the Democrats, Republicans do not misidentify the Governor’s party.
Getting mixed up about parties has awful consequences. Why should a Democrat bother to vote when the Governor is already a “Democrat”? And if the “Democrat” acts just like Republican Bush, why bother to vote when there is no difference between political parties?
www.chron.com/news/politics/article/Texas-is-not-among-the-most-Republ
ican-states-as-6087850.php#photo-7448282
It is just mind-boggling in Texas. The winning side, the Republicans, have an organizational advantage because they know who they are and they reliably vote for their side. And those 14 million Texans who did not vote? They have no more control over Texas government than Canadians do.
Bernie and his followers are NOT helping the Texas Democrats by painting Clinton as a witch who makes the same mistakes as Republicans. What Bernie's people will accomplish is convincing Texas Democrats that there is no reason to vote in November since Clinton is no better than a Republican. And, once again, Texas Democrats will "stay home" by the millions and 2.8 million Republicans will control the local governments that rule over 28 million Texans. We can thank Independent Bernie for doing all he can to trash the Democratic party in his rush to make it the Bernie party of one.
And later on this year, Bernie will be back in the Senate, calling himself an Independent because he is purer and better than any Democrat that ever existed and thus helping Republicans win Texas local government.
Texas Governor Race 2010
Republican Rick Perry 55% 2,737,481
Democratic Bill White 42.3% 2,106,395
Libertarian Kathie Glass 2.2% 109,211
Green Deb Shafto 0.4% 19,516
Write-In Andy Barron 0.1% 7,267
Total Votes 4,979,870
Eligible voters 19,000,000
https://ballotpedia.org/Texas_gubernatorial_election,_2010
Texas Governor Race 2014
Republican Greg Abbott 59.3% 2,796,547
Democratic Wendy Davis 38.9% 1,835,596
Libertarian Kathie Glass 1.4% 66,543
Green Brandon Parmer 0.4% 18,520
Write-in Sarah Pavitt 0% 1,062
Total Votes 4,718,268
Eligible voters 19,000,000
https://ballotpedia.org/Texas_gubernatorial_election,_2014
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Well, Texans are notoriously conservative. Nobody can save them from themselves.
And what is the point of electing "a Democrat" if that Democrat won't address the very real problems that the USA is facing right now, and who instead has consistently added to the conflagration over her lifetime and will probably continue thru a term of two in office?
Look, there are either very real - in fact, existential- problems facing the USA or there aren't.
And Hillary, as far as her record indicates, will exacerbate those very worst problems. And those aren't abortion rights or gay rights or any number of other important problems but problems like the fact that USA policy is determined by the ultra-wealthy and the alphabet agencies, that the USA is massive de-industrialized, that the USA has the greatest wealth gap since before the Great Depression, and that the USA has been continuously at war since 2003. Hillary is not about to do anything (except negative) about those problems.
That most Republicans have their head collectively buried in the sand is no reason for Democrats to do the same.
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