Have Western Neo-Feminists now destoryed 'The West'?
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Alternatively, why would anyone get married in today's day and age? You get some tax and medical benefits, that's about it. Everything else you can get with cohabitation and custody agreements.
I don't think it has anything to do with feminism, rather I think the world is more cynical and there's no point in tying yourself down. I think though that maybe there's a reaction against feminism that wants to turn everything into a gender war, and where that happens both sides are a pain in the ass, or even terrifying in their own way.
As for the "young generation," those sentiments have been expressed by every older generation towards every younger generation. I give each instance the same amount of credit and consideration for being an accurate observation - none whatsoever.
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Alternatively, why would anyone get married in today's day and age? You get some tax and medical benefits, that's about it. Everything else you can get with cohabitation and custody agreements.
I don't think it has anything to do with feminism, rather I think the world is more cynical and there's no point in tying yourself down. I think though that maybe there's a reaction against feminism that wants to turn everything into a gender war, and where that happens both sides are a pain in the ass, or even terrifying in their own way.
As for the "young generation," those sentiments have been expressed by every older generation towards every younger generation. I give each instance the same amount of credit and consideration for being an accurate observation - none whatsoever.
I pretty much agree with you BYTEMITE. People living together is on the rise and it has to do with any number of reasons besides “feminism”. It likely has more to do with people looking for a “partner” and a relationship built on honesty, trust and respect rather than relying on just an emotional attachment (ie: love) and the rejection of traditional roles married people are supposed to have.
Given the amount of debt, poor career prospects and general instability in society, younger people are not as likely to establish the solid foundation (stability in finances and career) necessary in order to marry as in the past. If a person’s concern is with everything else other than building a relationship with a partner, then it’s not going to go well.
Simply, men (real men that is) want a partner to share a life with, not just a wife (read surrogate mommy). Some male whining about feminism or that “woman aren’t women any more” as a reason to not get married, my advice is go home to live with your mommy so you have protection from the big, bad feminists and all the other bad things that life holds.
Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been
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Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Some male whining about feminism or that “woman aren’t women any more” as a reason to not get married, my advice is go home to live with your mommy so you have protection from the big, bad feminists and all the other bad things that life holds.
DING DING DING DING
Succinct as always, D.
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You will find plenty of Black Men to marry worthless White Women in USA...
For the rest of us, there's the promise of CS&N's Southern Cross...
Seriously Sigs...
F.U.C.K. American Women...
They knew that in the 70's, well before I was born.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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All that I have left to say on this topic of discussion is why does some Girl Group from Seoul make a better argument for a Female President than any woman in America could in the decades after Woman's Suffrage in America?
It's because of the women in America who aren't fat and slothful and stupid in America, most of them are just young and soon will be. Look at celebrities that women have looked up to in the last 20 years....
I'm only 36, and 9 out of 10 women I found irresistible in High School will be goddamned hogs at the trough at my 20 year reunion in 2 years.
I feel bad a lot of the time since I lost a lot of my friends and we don't hang out anymore after they got married and especially after they had kids, but then I think about how awesome it is not to have all that responsibility while married to Shamu and I'm thankful for the trade off.
I still hung out with them, btw, until their wives considered me a bad influence and cunt me off.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Or are you just here to troll?
JT - no, not trolling or trying to be a smart aleck. I was looking for something to visually illustrate how Internet trends work. I noticed a number of your links have exact matching phrases. This happens when people who get most of their info from the 'Net, take info from one source and reapply it to their own. Multiple that by the 1,000s of bloggers and forum posters and you get a similar pattern to the bird flocks. People who never thought of "men won't marry American women" are now following that concept, looking for it, posting on it, passing it on and getting more to follow. Yes, that's viral Holmes. I thought the birds were a great illustration.
So in other words, I think the premise is just cut-n-paste and any interest is made up of catchy phrasing and pretty colors. Any attention is largely an overreaction caused by the Internet Ripple Effect and our herd mentality.
JAYNZTOWN trying to understand what G is saying.
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Alternatively, why would anyone get married in today's day and age? You get some tax and medical benefits, that's about it. Everything else you can get with cohabitation and custody agreements.
I don't think it has anything to do with feminism, rather I think the world is more cynical and there's no point in tying yourself down. I think though that maybe there's a reaction against feminism that wants to turn everything into a gender war, and where that happens both sides are a pain in the ass, or even terrifying in their own way.
As for the "young generation," those sentiments have been expressed by every older generation towards every younger generation. I give each instance the same amount of credit and consideration for being an accurate observation - none whatsoever.
Good point BYTEMITE. I would also mention the chauvinism being displayed here that I have not seen others pick up on. Have you noticed it is JAYNZTOWN's premise from what he posts that men are refusing to many American women and not the other way around. Todays women are no longer chained to the yokes that suppressed their grandmothers nor dependent on men as in the past.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I still hung out with them, btw, until their wives considered me a bad influence and cunt me off.
6ix, your attitude towards women is probably the most shallow I've come across. I don't blame them.
When my dad had cancer they put him on Estrogen to slow the tumor growth.
He gained 40 pounds in six months. He absolutely said that it was the estrogen.
That's all I'll say. I know you are jaded and hurt at being rejected and have developed this position as a defense mechanism. You will be dating your left palm the rest of your life because of it. What good is owning a house if you never have anyone to share it with??
BTW, How's the job thing coming?
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Wow, a lot has happened since I last visited this thread! Going back to JAYNZE'S original post...
Quote:First, define feminism. Then we can decide if it's gone "too far". This isn't just a reflexive
I support feminism but I wonder if its gone too far
rhetorical question, it's very pointed, and I'll get back to that in a minute.
Quote:Well, that's a more specific question. The American nuclear family was defined by economic relationships: DAD, the breadwinner, MOM and children, scurrying around to MAKE DAD HAPPY.
Gays should have equal rights and if a woman wants to be with a woman or a man wants to be with a man that's really none of our business...but I do wonder sometimes if the destruction of the old American nuclear family has gone too far?
Quote:Yes, and it annoys me no end ..
Has feminism broke the US family? Seems maybe some relationships have got more shallow or people have become more hollow, No Debate together, No Interests, Self Centered. The young generation are becoming more empty Miley Cyrus tastes in music, shopping for usless hangbags and fashion items, I-phone hedonistic stoner culture....is it any wonder its all failing...and the men are leaving the family game....they want to sit at home on their own buy their own car, drink their beer, play their Xbox and Playstation, watch the Baseball and Basketball until these men go old.
Pastors, Preachers, Marraige Registry offices all report record low levels of Marraige and the ones who do Marry are getting older and older...Men seem to be opting out of the whole tie-the-knot and fatherhood thing, they are portrayed news and in movies and shown in tv sitcoms as a kind of a joke
Quote:I think you've hit the nail on the head: PEOPLE (women AND men) have become more shallow. I've seen it happen in my lifetime.
also in break ups mostly Courts will favor the woman and the Man will lose A LOT OF INCOME...many who don't pay supprot go to jail, for example over 90% of those punished, sent to jail for not paying child support are men. The Consequences of the current American society is Men are not Marrying the American Woman.
Quote:American women today are less dependent on men than some women abroad. I'm sure you'll find a lot of Romanian, Thai, Peruvian, and Philippine women who are willing to put up the the "priest, prophet, provider, and protector" routine ... or the "lord and master" routine.. . even put up with a certain amount of abuse ... in return for a better lifestyle. And a green card.
I have noticed this trend a lot over the years, its growing...Westerners, American men, many who still want to marry they now marry a girl from India, Russia, Cambodia, fly over and get a bride from China, Bolivia, Peru....yet they avoid the American woman today?
Quote:The question "What is feminism?" again.
Did US feminist go too far?
Quote:All of the above
It's like the Man has been slowly dumped for...? ...more stronger femimism....a welfare state?...Metro-Sexuals?...
Quote:Agreed
to give women the same stresses and pains of male work and leaving raising kids as an inconvenience...to give women the option to marry other women and go to the sperm bank for the lesbain raised kid?...whatever the reasons its many... modern culture is changing...the traditional 'Man' role in the USA has been dying a while now
Quote:What I think you've heard is that MEN are talking about "American women
I have heard all kinds of opinions from many parts of this world, from black, white, yellow, brown on the whole marraige thing...why the Men of the United States are Giving Up On Marriage...So many people have told me how Men are Fed up with American Women or Western Woman and Why Men Don't Want to Marry the American Woman Anymore. I have seen writing and heard talk from political people, from wealthy people, from less wealthy, from atheists, from religious people
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The decline in marriage and the need for more purposeful parenthood
http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/opinion/op-ed/the-decline-in-ma
rriage-and-the-need-for-more-purposeful/article_1613a543-6e0c-5f00-9e45-c04e49498d14.html
We used to assume people would marry before having children. But marriage is no longer the norm. In fact, marriage is getting rarer, especially among the youngest generation and those who are less educated. And half of all children born to women under 30 are born out of wedlock. The proportion is even higher among those without a college degree.
What’s going on here? Most of today’s young adults don’t feel ready to marry in their early 20s. Many have not completed their educations; others are trying to get established in a career; and many grew up with parents who divorced and are reluctant to make a commitment or take the risks associated with a legally binding tie.
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Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Some male whining about feminism or that “woman aren’t women any more” as a reason to not get married, my advice is go home to live with your mommy so you have protection from the big, bad feminists and all the other bad things that life holds.
Sounds like you've never seen an abusive relationship, where a court system screws the guy over
Or you simply carry your balls around in your wife's purse
if she ordered you to war while she meet up with the post man would you do it?
Never seen an abusive woman
or balls in your wife's purse
...which is it?
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