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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria

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KPO
Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:27 PM

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And while western press constantly claims that Russia and Syria have bombed (yet another) hospital,

Not just Western media - the UN, and international charities/aid organisations WHO RUN THE HOSPITALS.

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I doubt that there are that many hospitals in existence.

Can your imagination not stretch to the idea that the same hospitals are being bombed multiple times?

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I suspect that MANY of these "hospitals" are informal clinics which are not identified to either Syria or Russia or marked for easy identification from the air.

Yes, if by "informal" you mean hospitals setting up wards/clinics underground, and withholding their locations and GPS from the regime and Russia due to their being deliberately targeted.


"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

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KPO
Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:33 PM

Aleppo's cat sanctuary for stray/abandoned cats - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37453081

The cats get fed rice now, I wonder how that will change as Assad's/Russia's starvation siege bites.


"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

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Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:55 PM

John Kerry threatens to end Syria talks with Russia over Aleppo


WASHINGTON - Secretary of State John Kerry is threatening to cut off all contacts with Moscow over the 5-year-old Syrian civil war, unless Russian and Syrian government attacks on Aleppo end.

The State Department says Kerry issued the ultimatum in a Wednesday telephone call to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

Kerry’s spokesman, John Kirby, says Kerry expressed grave concern over Russian and Syrian government attacks on hospitals, water supplies and other civilian infrastructure in Aleppo.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kerry-syria-talks-russia-aleppo/

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KPO
Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:26 PM

Inside an Aleppo hospital: brain surgery on the hospital floor, surgeons pulling fragments of Russian cluster bombs out of children - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/37501589


"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
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Friday, September 30, 2016 9:34 AM

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And while western press constantly claims that Russia and Syria have bombed (yet another) hospital,- SIGNY
Not just Western media - the UN, and international charities/aid organisations WHO RUN THE HOSPITALS.

uh huh.
So, there are UN-run hospitals in eastern Aleppo, you say?

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I doubt that there are that many hospitals in existence.- SIGNY
Can your imagination not stretch to the idea that the same hospitals are being bombed multiple times?- KOP

Of course it can. But I can only read so many "Hospital destroyed by Russian/ Syrian airstrike" before I start to wonder... say, how many hospitals ARE there in terrorist-held Aleppo, anyway? And if it's not DIFFERENT hospitals being "destroyed", but the same ones over and over, I ask myself how many TIMES can a hospital be "destroyed"? It's certainly something to wonder about.

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I suspect that MANY of these "hospitals" are informal clinics which are not identified to either Syria or Russia or marked for easy identification from the air.- SIGNY
Yes, if by "informal" you mean hospitals setting up wards/clinics underground, and withholding their locations and GPS from the regime and Russia due to their being deliberately targeted.- KPO

I recall there was a MSN hospital in Latakia that was struck about a year ago, and when MSN was asked if they had provided their coordinates, they kind of hemmed and hawed and finally admitted that they hadn't. How can anyone tell that there is a "hospital" somewhere if all that can be seen is a cluster of vehicles around a building? And what if that "cluster" contains weaponry? If clinics don't provide their coordinates, it seems to be on the ASSUMPTION that they're being targeted.

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Yes, we know what you're trying to do. Your thread title says it all.

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Friday, September 30, 2016 9:41 AM

Double Life of White Helmets: Volunteers by Day, Terrorists by Night (Photos)

Volunteers of the White Helmets civil defense organization have a double life: they are ‘volunteers’ by day and terrorists by night.

A worker of a social canteen (Photo: twitter.com / Gjoene)

Photos, published online, reveal ‘the second life’ of volunteers of the White Helmets civil defense organization that operates throughout the Syrian territory, controlled by the ‘moderate’ opposition.

According to the photos, the volunteers spend one part of their lives, providing assistance to civilian population, and then transform into members of terrorist groups and shoot at the same civilians.


The White Helmets, also known as the Syrian Civil Defense (SCD), was founded in early 2013 by British security consultant James Le Mesurier. The organization is supported by Mayday Rescue, a foundation, registered in the Netherlands. The SCD was created as “a response to indiscriminate bombardment of civilian communities in rebel-held areas by the Syrian Arab Air Force.” However, according to an official statement, the mission of the White Helmets is “to save the greatest number of lives in the shortest possible time and to minimize further injury to people and damage to property.”

Now volunteers of the White Helmets operate in 114 local civil defense centers across 8 Syrian provinces with high presence of various militant groups: Aleppo, Homs, Idlib, Damascus Countryside, Hama, Latakia, and Daraa.

This man is a humanitarian worker of the White Helmets in one his life, and a soldier of jihad, who is ready to cut heads of ‘faithless’ – in another life

Another volunteer of the White Helmets. Apparently, he earns more, throwing corpses of Syrian soldiers in garbage than just killing them





This ‘hero’ of the humanitarian front likes to shoot at civilians with a machine gun during his breaks between the processes of ‘taking care about people’


A standard Syrian humanitarian volunteer, armed with a peaceful light anti-tank weapon



Nevermind the black flag on the wall… Nothing to see there

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Saturday, October 1, 2016 12:41 AM

Just want to point out we once again see SIG displaying her full throated support for Russia and Assad.

I don't see a source for your picture collage comrade SIG. So, are they photo shopped? Are they actually White Hats? Shit we already know you post garbage from nonreputable sources. It is my opinion this post of yours is another example of that.



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Saturday, October 1, 2016 7:42 PM

UN says armed Syrian groups blocking Aleppo aid for 'political gain'

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The UN has accused armed groups in Syria of blocking the delivery of aid to the besieged city of Aleppo for “political gain” - including rebel factions inside Aleppo itself who say they will reject aid that comes through regime territory.

Two days after the Syria ceasefire agreement went into effect, bombs have stopped falling on the rebel-held eastern half of Aleppo but the 275,000 people living there are still desperately short of food and medical supplies. A convoy of 20 UN trucks carrying enough aid for 40,000 people is languishing at the Turkish border as diplomats try to secure agreement from both rebels and regime forces to allow the vehicles through.

“Some parties to the conflict are trying to use this for political gain,” said David Swanson, a UN spokesman. “The challenge for us is ensuring that all parties to the conflict are on the same page. If one element of the chain is not there we cannot proceed.”

The UN would not say if the hold was up was being caused by the Assad regime or its rebel opponents but at least part of the problem appeared to be inside east Aleppo itself.

Activists there said they intended to reject the UN aid in protest at the ceasefire agreement which was brokered between the US and Russia without input from the Syrian opposition. Video from Aleppo showed a large demonstration against the UN [including many black flags- SIGNY] had gathered at Castello Road, the key supply route that the aid convoy would have to travel down.

At least some of the demonstrators were waving the black flags of Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (JFS), an al-Qaeda linked jihadist group formerly known as the al-Nusra Front.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/14/un-says-armed-syrian-groups
-blocking-aid-to-aleppo-for-political
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NOTE THE BLACK FLAGS IN THE BACKGROUND



By the way, I can see from this video how the people of east Aleppo are "starving".

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Saturday, October 1, 2016 8:53 PM

More about the "WHITE HELMETS"






FROM BRITAIN ON THE WHITE HELMETS



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Saturday, October 1, 2016 11:20 PM

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A Few Links On Syria And Other Issues

Just a few links ...

The White House and State Department are miffed that Syria and Russia are cleaning up their Jihadis in Aleppo city.

There is a false claims evolving in western "news" that the current Aleppo operation led to the breakdown of the ceasefire agreement. Two points on this: 1. The ceasefire did not "break down". It expired after a previously agreed period. Both sides did not agree to a prolongation. 2. The most important ceasefire point was the physical separation of al-Qaida and other U.S. proxy rebels. The U.S. was unable (or unwilling) to fulfill that point.

See: Moscow Makes Public Full Text of Russia-US Deal on Syria

The main priority in Syria, according to the document, is the demarcation of territory controlled by Daesh and al-Nusra Front terrorist groups and territories controlled by Syrian rebels.

After the end of the ceasefire the U.S. and its subaltern allies are flooding Syria with new weapons:

US-backed rebels now equipped with advanced rocket launchers The BM-21 truck mounted Grad multiple rocket launcher have a range of up to 40 kilometers. At least three new ones have been photographed over the last two days.

'Aleppo must not fall': US allies to flood [Aleppo] with anti-aircraft missiles
"The US confirmed the green light to begin sending them to rebels through supply routes still open through Jordan and Turkey," the source said. "Rebels are being told only to target Syrian helicopters, not Russian - but it's not clear they will abide by this."


Both rockets and MANPADs are part of a "Plan-B" the CIA had already developed in May 2015 but which was held back until now.



As an aside MANPADS- man portable air defense systems - can bring down aircraft from 30,000 feet, which is normal airliner altitude. One of the reasons for NOT giving terrorists MANPADS is that they could start being used against civilian iarcraft everywhere in the region, including Europe. I guess that consideration is no longer important to US warhawks.

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There are likely additional military elements to this plan. On the diplomatic side the U.S. (and its stooges) -obviously unable to act rationally- now imitate defiant children. "If we can't get exactly what we want we will never again talk to you."

US Threatens to Suspend Engagement With Russia in Syria Over Aleppo Situation
Unrelated EU Sanctions linked to Ukraine now suddenly get linked to Russia's stipulated official support for the Syrian government: Syria Attacks May Complicate EU Decision on Russia Sanctions


A very major issue for Syria (and one reason why many Syrians flee the country) are U.S. and EU sanctions. Their consequences were so far hardly ever reported. Here is the first major piece in U.S. media about them: U.S. and EU Sanctions Are Punishing Ordinary Syrians and Crippling Aid Work, U.N. Report Reveals

In a 40-page internal assessment commissioned to analyze the humanitarian impact of the sanctions, the U.N. describes the U.S. and EU measures as “some of the most complicated and far-reaching sanctions regimes ever imposed.” Detailing a complex system of “unpredictable and time-consuming” financial restrictions and licensing requirements, the report finds that U.S. sanctions are exceptionally harsh “regarding provision of humanitarian aid.
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An internal U.N. email obtained by The Intercept also faults U.S. and EU sanctions for contributing to food shortages and deteriorations in health care.
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The email went on to cite sanctions as a “principal factor” in the erosion of Syria’s health care system.


The piece also explains that the Syrian and Russian behavior towards insurgent occupied cities is in no way more severe than the usual U.S. procedures:

Meanwhile, in cities controlled by ISIS, the U.S. has employed some of the same tactics it condemns. For example, U.S.-backed ground forces laid si

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