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Sunday, November 8, 2015 3:03 AM

"something as simple as a tungsten slug might be all the lethality you'll need. Just get it up to extreme velocity (relatively easy in zero g)"

I just want to point out that in the second sentence there was MASSIVE (pun intended) error of the utmost GRAVITY (another intended pun).

There's a difference between WEIGHT - which involves the action of gravity (acceleration) on a mass, and MASS - which is related to inertia. Objects in space (another intended pun) may lose their WEIGHT as they enter a null gravity area, but they don't lose their MASS, which is involved with how much force is needed to accelerate the mass's inertia. ie The centuries old Newtonian equation f = ma.





SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, November 8, 2015 7:41 PM

I found this article an insightful summary. Originally posted on the Asia Times (where Pepe Escobar posts) but cross-posted on Russia Insider

US-Backed Jihadists' Global Orgy of Destruction

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The greater Middle East is on fire with one failing state after another overrun by Salafi jihadists—Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen—and rapidly reigniting Afghanistan, inflaming Central Asia, Russia’s Chechnya, China’s Xinjiang, southeast Asia and even South Korea.


Not just "local" problem but a worldwide one.

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It appears the negative contagion of US –sponsored regime changes in the Mideast, that empowered the rise of Salafi jihadism, is pivoting east and destabilizing Asia. After one year of US-led anti-IS campaign, the Islamic caliphate is getting stronger and on the march, destroying the old world order and establishing a new one with the implicit backing of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and especially Turkey’s Erdogan.
I hope by now that's not news to you.

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This week, South Korea received bomb threats from an Islamic State (IS)-linked group to blow up a shop near COEX, a large shopping complex in the wealthy district of Gangnam in Seoul.In April, IS attacked the South Korean embassy in Libya and killed at least two people.

As Turkey held election on November 1, a pro-AKP columnist even claimed that under a new presidential system [expanding Presidential powers, an Erdogan initiative - SIGNY] Erdogan would be “caliph” of the Sunni Muslims in the world, with the 1,005-room new presidential palace hosting “representatives from nations under the caliphate.”

Distracted by an alphabet soup of various salafist jihadi groups such as Al Qaeda in Iraq (IS), Al Qaeda in Syria (Al Nusra), Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), Al Qaeda in North Africa (AQIM), Al Qaeda in the Philippines (Abu Sayyaf), Al Qaeda in China (Turkistan Islamic Party), Boko Haram, Taiban, Haqqani Network and so on, and trying to separate “good terrorists” from “bad terrorists”, Washington is blindsided by the fact that ultimately they share the same end of establishing a global caliphate under Sharia, only differing in the means and speed of that goal.

Writing in the Wall Street Journal, Henry Kissinger warned that IS “seeks to replace the international system’s multiplicity of states with a caliphate, a single Islamic empire governed by Shariah law.”As such, he argued “the destruction of IS is more urgent than the overthrow of Bashar Assad, who has already lost over half of the area he once controlled. Making sure that this territory does not become a permanent terrorist haven must have precedence.”

Kissinger is not at all moral, but a realist. He realizes that the USA is also threatened by this wave of jihadism.

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However, his warnings seem to fall on deaf ears in the Obama administration, with Secretary Kerry continuing to toe the Saudi/Qatar/Turkey line of a regime change mandate that “Assad must go”(and replaced by their Islamist extremists), rather than a counterterrorism mandate of prioritizing combating IS and other Salafi jihadists to restore regional stability.

Obama’s ‘anti-IS allies’ exporting jihad

It is not surprising IS and other Salafi jihadists in Syria and elsewhere are rapidly spreading like the ebola virus, given Arab autocracies that aided IS rise are now in Obama’s anti-IS coalition that is “a coalition of sinners now dressed as knights in shining armour.”

Writing in 2014, Indian strategist Professor Brahma Chellaney from Center for Policy Research noted how Qatar and Saudi Arabia pouring weapons and funds to Sunni extremists in Syria eventually created fertile ground that spawned IS.

This nefarious pattern of supporting violent jihadists is further evidenced by their bolstering Afghan Taliban, accelerating Libya’s transformation into a failed state via their breeding of Islamist militia, with Qatar even deploying troops covertly inside Libya in the 2011 campaign to oust Gaddafi.

Given Saudi/Qatari/Turkey-backed ‘Syrian rebel

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Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:12 AM

Syrian army enters Aleppo air base after Islamic State siege: state TV

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/10/us-mideast-crisis-syria-idUS
KCN0SZ15E20151110


After so many accusations that Russia isn't fighting ISIS, recognition that ISIS is being defeated.

I read a very interesting article - which I can't find again, drat it!- that explained that this is part of a larger strategy to cut off the supply lines from Turkey to ISIS/al Nusra (al Qaida in Syria)/ other other jihadist forces.

Unfortunately, I didn't save the link, and the article didn't make much sense to me because I didn't have a good map to look at. I'll see if I can find it again.



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Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:19 AM

THis isn't the article, its the closest I could find

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The Kweires Military Airport returned in the patronage of the Government after historic resistance for more than 3 years. The armed groups of Free Syrian Army, Nusra Front, and Ahrar al Sham surrounded the base until the terrorist group IS took over in March of 2014 after the other groups withdrew from its surroundings due to fighting between the two sides. The groups launched hundreds of attacks but failed to penetrate any defensive lines. This airport is located 35km from Aleppo to the West, 10km from Deir Hafer to the South and 15km from Al Bab to the North which is controlled by IS.

To the north, the airport borders one of the largest water canals in Aleppo which forms a natural defense against attackers. To the south, there is the Raqqa-Aleppo road. By controlling the airport, which is the largest in the North, the government can accomplish the following:

firstly, the northern areas become within firing range of artillery at the airport

the airport becomes an easier launching ground for airstrikes from helicopters and military jets, and the targets being Al Bab, Mindige, Deir Hafer and Maskana which are controlled by IS

securing the airport solidifies the government's control on the roads linking Aleppo with Deir Hafer and Mindige. Losing these towns and their links to Aleppo means for IS that the road to Northern Aleppo becomes cut off by Government forces to the two airports of Aleppo International and Nairab.

the airport becomes a launching ground for any operation towards Eastern and North Eastern Aleppo

away from Aleppo, the strategic importance of this airport is that it falls on the main highway linking Raqqa and Aleppo, which threatens their supply lines (to Raqqa) from Turkey.


https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/3sekrv/strategic_impo
rtance_of_kweires_airport_from
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Friday, November 13, 2015 10:21 PM

Now that RUSSIA is clobbering Saudi Arabia's puppets in Syria, AQ and ISIS are firing up their suicide-bombing campaign, and threatening an ocean of blood in Russia.

Funny that they don't seem to be too worried about America!

In addition to the Russian plane probably brought down by onboard bomb, AQ and ISIS are setting off bombs in the lands of their perceived enemies: In Beirut, Shibam (Yemen), Baghdad, Kabul. Look for more in the Shiite portions of the Mideast (even inside Saudi Arabia and Bahrain) and Russia.

One point I got from this is if attacking civilians is the only tactic they have left, it seems that they feel 're already lost the war.

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Friday, November 13, 2015 10:33 PM

So, there are talks going on in Vienna to supposedly reach a political settlement in Syria.

The Saudis are insisting that "Assad must go". But just like the USA insisting that ANY leader "must go" (Saddam, Qaddafi, Yanukovich, Putin, whoever) that should be a non-starter. No nation has the right to depose any other nation's leader unless that leader is -literally- attacking another nation. Then self-defense comes into play.

I think everyone agrees that the way forward is democratic elections. I think everyone agrees that Syria should be a secular nation (unlike Saudi Arabia and Israel and Iran, for example). IMHO, Assad SHOULD be able to stand for election ... if the people want him, they should be allowed to vote for him.

But the first order of business is to decide who is a terrorist and who is not, and that's a tougher problem. In this case, Ukraine and Syria form pretty direct comparisons- whatever rules apply to one SHOULD apply to the other, if they make any sort of ethical and practical sense.

So, who is a terrorist in Syria? Who is a terrorist in Ukraine?




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Friday, November 13, 2015 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, there are talks going on in Vienna to supposedly reach a political settlement in Syria.


Yep
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The Saudis are insisting that "Assad must go". But just like the USA insisting that ANY leader "must go" (Saddam, Qaddafi, Yanukovich, Putin, whoever) that should be a non-starter. No nation has the right to depose any other nation's leader unless that leader is -literally- attacking another nation. Then self-defense comes into play.



You mean like the way Russia is interfering in the Ukraine to depose who the Ukrainians decided they wanted running the country?

Dam you are sooooo full of shit and such a moron you contradict what you claim to believe in post after post and link after link.
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I think everyone agrees that the way forward is democratic elections. I think everyone agrees that Syria should be a secular nation (unlike Saudi Arabia and Israel and Iran, for example). IMHO, Assad SHOULD be able to stand for election ... if the people want him, they should be allowed to vote for him.



Assad has to go and is going to go. Islam in Syria is followed by 90% of the country's total population. Sunnis make up 74% of the country. (That’s Saudi’s cultures SIG) Of the total, mostly of Arab, Kurdish and Turkoman ethnicities. Shia's make up the remaining 13%. Assad is an ally of Iran's Shiite theocracy and might get 13% of the vote. There is no way would he allow an honest election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Syria

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So, who is a terrorist in Syria? Who is a terrorist in Ukraine?



Shit that’s easy, the Russians


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Friday, November 13, 2015 11:27 PM

Not to diminish the USA contribution in Iraq, after USA warplanes pounded ISIS position in Sinjar for a few days, Kurdish and Yazidi forces re-took Sinjar in Iraq.

Sinjar is just about 30 miles from the Iraq-Syria border. More importantly, it is on the EASTERN supply route to Raqqa (n Syria). The airport which the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) freed from a 2-year seige - Kweires Airport- is on the WESTERN supply-line to Raqqa. Raqqa is the unofficial ISIS capital, and it looks like it's getting pinched from east and west.

I noticed also that American planes have been bombing in the far northeastern tip of Syria with nary a peep of objection from Russia or Syria. It seems that more than just "deconflicting" the skies, the USA and Russia/Syria may even be coordinating to some extent on fighting ISIS. Or is that too much to hope for?

Finding sources of good updated maps is difficult! I found this http://liveuamap.com/ but have yet to figure out how reliable it is.





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Saturday, November 14, 2015 2:51 AM

Tereshchenko Dynasty Descendant Now Mayor In Ukraine

"The French descendant of one of the Russian Empire's richest family dynasties this week became mayor of the Ukrainian town of Hlukhiv, where his family made its fortune.

Tereshchenko told AFP that he hoped to establish a flourishing, corruption-free democratic government like the one his grandfather had hoped to establish in Tsarist Russia.

"It failed in Russia. But it will succeed in Ukraine," he said.

Tereshchenko first made headlines in March when Ukrainian President Poroshenko granted him citizenship."

http://www.rferl.org/content/tereshchenko-dynasty-descendant-now-mayor
-in-ukraine/27362746.html


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Saturday, November 14, 2015 3:20 AM

Ukraine calls Soviet deportation of Muslims 'genocide'


Nearly half of the deported population died of starvation and hardship en route or within months after their arrival in Soviet Central Asia, the Ukrainian parliament, called the Verkhovna Rada, said in a statement on Thursday.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/ukraine-calls-soviet-deportation
-muslims-genocide-151113061021629.html


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