SyFy's ode to Firefly ? Killjoys and Dark Matter

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AURAPTOR

Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:31 AM

Both occur in space. Both take place primarily on ships. Dirty, gritty space. Large corporate govts running everything. Criminals. Staying under the radar. Training houses. And naming your favorite guns.

Stop me if you've heard of any of this before on t.v.

ECGORDON

Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:08 AM

Other than the fact that both are poorly written and acted...yeah, clearly Firefly ripoffs.

A scene in Killjoys' pilot reminded me a lot of the scenes on Belleraphon in "Trash."

Dark Matter is really more like Stargate Universe than Firefly, other than Three, the guy who names his guns, being a lot like Jayne Cobb. Also, Five could be seen as a bit like River.

GWEK

Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:32 PM

Funny. Here's what I wrote on facebook about two weeks ago:

SyFy Fridays - The night that FIREFLY built? FIREFLY has been off the for almost 13 years, but I think it's impact can now be felt weekly. DEFIANCE has been on for a few seasons and has its own identity, but I think there's no denying that the roguish captain in a sci fi Western setting owes at least a tip of the hat to FIREFLY (among others). KILLJOYS is the most obvious... so obvious that I will say only that, despite being about space bounty hunters, it took me seven reviews to find a reference to Boba Fett, yet every one spent at least a paragraph comparing the Quad and the 'Verse. Finally, we have DARK MATTER, the least obvious - but perhaps strongest - descendant. Given some of the plot twists, I won't say too much, but if you enjoyed FIREFLY (or, indeed, any intelligent sci fi), give it a try.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:32 AM

So, Defiance, Killjoys, and Dark Matter.
I think I saw an ad for one of them.

Should I put them on my watch list? Or are they not worth it?

ECGORDON

Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:34 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, Defiance, Killjoys, and Dark Matter.
I think I saw an ad for one of them.

Should I put them on my watch list? Or are they not worth it?

Considering we usually have differing opinions of shows and movies, I'd say go ahead and watch 'em.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:49 AM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, Defiance, Killjoys, and Dark Matter.
I think I saw an ad for one of them.

Should I put them on my watch list? Or are they not worth it?

Considering we usually have differing opinions of shows and movies, I'd say go ahead and watch 'em.

I'll take your Fireflyfandom reference as a no.

Any differing opinions?

AURAPTOR

Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:14 AM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Other than the fact that both are poorly written and acted...yeah, clearly Firefly ripoffs.

A scene in Killjoys' pilot reminded me a lot of the scenes on Belleraphon in "Trash."

Dark Matter is really more like Stargate Universe than Firefly, other than Three, the guy who names his guns, being a lot like Jayne Cobb. Also, Five could be seen as a bit like River.

That's my thinking as well. Killjoys has more of a Firefly feel to it, I suppose, but I think both tend to draw inspiration from the Firefly 'verse.

And " 3 " in Dark Matter tossed out a classic " Thank you, Robot " , which HAD to be a nod to Lost in Space.

Some of the writing has glaring holes, but these are the early eps. Not every series can hit the ground running and hit on all cylinders.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:26 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, Defiance, Killjoys, and Dark Matter.
I think I saw an ad for one of them.

Should I put them on my watch list? Or are they not worth it?

Considering we usually have differing opinions of shows and movies, I'd say go ahead and watch 'em.

I'll take your Fireflyfandom reference as a no.

Any differing opinions?

I'm watching all 3.

Defiance took quite a story twist going into season 3, which I think is really interesting.

Killjoys has a smokin' hot babe ,Hannah John-Kamen, who plays 'Dutch'. She reminds me a lot of Claudia Black, though she's English, not Australian. Think of Inara, but instead of companioning, she trained as an assassin.

Dark Matter has potential, but at this point, I don't see how the whole crew can stay together. None has any allegiance to another, and anyone could jump ship or pull a Jayne and take over the ship. There's a classic ' whodunit ' vibe going on as well, as any one of them could be some sort of double agent.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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GWEK

Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:36 PM

I'm not watching DEFIANCE, but I would characterize DARK MATTER as "good" and KILLJOYS as "entertaining with potential to be more." Neither is anywhere close to the level of FIREFLY but both are watchable. They are, say, LEVERAGE to FIREFLY'S HUSTLE.

ECGORDON

Thursday, July 9, 2015 9:22 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, Defiance, Killjoys, and Dark Matter.
I think I saw an ad for one of them.

Should I put them on my watch list? Or are they not worth it?

Considering we usually have differing opinions of shows and movies, I'd say go ahead and watch 'em.

I'll take your Fireflyfandom reference as a no.

Any differing opinions?

Of course I meant that other than our appreciation for Firefly, we don't share a lot of the same opinions about other shows. Since I am just barely tolerant of Killjoys and Dark Matter, I figured you might have a different take so it wouldn't hurt to check them out. As for Defiance, I gave up on that long ago.

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