Australia repeals maligned 2-year-old carbon tax
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Fossil fuels work. Have worked, and will continue to work. They don't NEED to be propped up by govts. That's the basic fact that the warm-mongers and Greenies don't grasp.
Make something that works, design a wind turbine that doesn't slice endangered birds into confetti, what ever it takes, and FREE MARKET economics will take over from there.
Until then, diverting resources away from proven sources of energy will only stifle jobs and force more people to do w/ out, needlessly so.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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He's trolling MAGONSDAUGHTER. His posts defy logic and reason. That spells troll. Either that or he spent his life as a yes sir moron. I am surprised no one here connected the dots.
Serenity, the operative who buys into the whole alliance bullshit? See the connection? I do, he is just an old establishment yes man, and he is not the only one.
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I think all we can really do if you intend to resist continuing dependence on oil or if you're concerned about the climate is buy into non-fossil fuels. Here in Utah it's so sunny that it's not hard to design a net zero building, or even one that sells generated power back to the grid.
And companies that rely on fossil fuels, particularly energy companies are terrified of this.
Haha, you're not kidding, some people have actually been surprised to find that they're being CHARGED on their energy bills for generating their own energy. They're fighting it in the courts, it's pretty ridiculous.
But the energy companies around here are just about done. The younger generation just isn't interested in going down into the mines and getting black lung (and it doesn't help the stigma of Crandall Canyon mine and the weasel of a company owner is hanging over coal mining in Utah), and the coal power plants just aren't all that cost effective to run anymore. And some of them admitted to me at a conference that it's not really that it's the emissions laws and the scrubbers, it's just the demand for coal power is dying.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Fossil fuels work. Have worked, and will continue to work. They don't NEED to be propped up by govts. That's the basic fact that the warm-mongers and Greenies don't grasp.
Make something that works, design a wind turbine that doesn't slice endangered birds into confetti, what ever it takes, and FREE MARKET economics will take over from there.
Until then, diverting resources away from proven sources of energy will only stifle jobs and force more people to do w/ out, needlessly so.
OMG, do you actually believe this? Just because there is a profit to be made, that makes things okay? I can think of a million 'free market' examples where squillions have been made, but human misery has ensued. Child labour, slavery, employees working in shocking, hazardous conditions, asbestos mining, arms dealers, drug cartels. Just because something makes a profit, does not make it safe or right.
And you comment on wind farms is hilarious. How many birds are killed by aeroplanes, cars. Sheesh, just travelled 1700km and saw so much road kill, you could live for a year if you ate it. Do you think cars are a bad idea.
There is no discussion worth having with you. You are a small thinker who cannot see any further than your own four walls and the limited span you have on this earth and the ideas that are spouted at you by ignorant right winged wankers.
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Haha, you're not kidding, some people have actually been surprised to find that they're being CHARGED on their energy bills for generating their own energy. They're fighting it in the courts, it's pretty ridiculous.
But the energy companies around here are just about done. The younger generation just isn't interested in going down into the mines and getting black lung (and it doesn't help the stigma of Crandall Canyon mine and the weasel of a company owner is hanging over coal mining in Utah), and the coal power plants just aren't all that cost effective to run anymore. And some of them admitted to me at a conference that it's not really that it's the emissions laws and the scrubbers, it's just the demand for coal power is dying.
Energy companies are about to go into a death spiral. As prices go up, more people opt out of the grid or lower their usuage, so prices increase again to cover infrastructure that is being used less.
My aim is to pretty much be off the grid in the next 10 years, but that wont help those who cant afford to do that and who will bear the brunt of skyrocketing prices.
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He's trolling MAGONSDAUGHTER. His posts defy logic and reason. That spells troll. Either that or he spent his life as a yes sir moron. I am surprised no one here connected the dots.
Serenity, the operative who buys into the whole alliance bullshit? See the connection? I do, he is just an old establishment yes man, and he is not the only one.
YOU are trolling, Chrisisall.
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Energy companies are about to go into a death spiral. As prices go up, more people opt out of the grid or lower their usuage, so prices increase again to cover infrastructure that is being used less.
My aim is to pretty much be off the grid in the next 10 years, but that wont help those who cant afford to do that and who will bear the brunt of skyrocketing prices.
You think the carbon tax would help matters of skyrocketing prices ?
Huh.
So, when you say 'about to go into a death spiral', are we talking next year ? 5 years ? 10 ? 20 ? Help me out here, and spare me the cries of "WOLF!"
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I do, he is just an old establishment yes man, and he is not the only one.
AURaptor might be military. I've never had it confirmed.
Our experiences make us who was are, and all of us are adults, our personalities are set. Our minds are unlikely to change. If you intend to try to change them, it is best to make reasonable arguments within the scope of our own world.
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So, when you say 'about to go into a death spiral', are we talking next year ? 5 years ? 10 ? 20 ? Help me out here, and spare me the cries of "WOLF!"
The main coal fired power plant in Utah is closing this year. I can't speak to other places.
But based on comments I've heard from coal miners in other states, there are concerns about the longevity of the industry. There is reason to think it is on the way out.
Oil and gas is doing well right now because reliance on coal has switched over, but as non-renewable resources, that can't last forever either. The writing is on the wall, and if you don't want to be caught offguard when it happens, I would recommend planning ahead to get your own energy needs.
Being self-sufficient should fit within your conservative framework, so I would suggest looking at it from that perspective.
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I do, he is just an old establishment yes man, and he is not the only one.
AURaptor might be military. I've never had it confirmed.
Our experiences make us who was are, and all of us are adults, our personalities are set. Our minds are unlikely to change. If you intend to try to change them, it is best to make reasonable arguments within the scope of our own world.
Yes, correct and that is what I try and do. I noticed G ( and others)have made great arguments to show Rappys ignorance. The guys a fool. That's not just a I hate you thought. The guy really is ignorant.
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