Another shooting that doesn't involve a member of the Tea Party

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WHOZIT

Sunday, May 25, 2014 7:58 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638049/7-dead-drive-shoot-nea
r-US-Santa-Barbara.html

This one involes a member of the Hollywood elite and 1% crowd.

SECOND

Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:08 PM

There was a 39 percent decline in gun homicides between 1993 and 2011 and a staggering 69 percent decline in non-fatal firearms crimes.

Given the horrific rampage that occurred yesterday near the UC Santa Barbara campus and widespread media coverage of similar incidents in recent years we could be forgiven for believing that the United States is experiencing a surge in violent deaths. But as best as one can tell from limited data, this isn't the case. America's murder rate remains high compared to rich countries in Europe or Asia so people are right to be alarmed by the level of violence, but the good news is that it seems to be falling.

More murder statistics are here: www.vox.com/2014/5/25/5749316/us-murder-rate-decline

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

WHOZIT

Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
There was a 39 percent decline in gun homicides between 1993 and 2011 and a staggering 69 percent decline in non-fatal firearms crimes.

Given the horrific rampage that occurred yesterday near the UC Santa Barbara campus and widespread media coverage of similar incidents in recent years we could be forgiven for believing that the United States is experiencing a surge in violent deaths. But as best as one can tell from limited data, this isn't the case. America's murder rate remains high compared to rich countries in Europe or Asia so people are right to be alarmed by the level of violence, but the good news is that it seems to be falling.

More murder statistics are here: www.vox.com/2014/5/25/5749316/us-murder-rate-decline

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Shooting deaths are up 32% in NYC since they stopped "stop and frisk." The gun control wackos will blame the gun instead of the fact that this guy watched violent video games and the fact that he was nutz.

SECOND

Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:38 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:

Shooting deaths are up 32% in NYC since they stopped "stop and frisk." The gun control wackos will blame the gun instead of the fact that this guy watched violent video games and the fact that he was nutz.

Are you scamming? New York Public Housing shootings are up 32% since stopping Stop And Frisk. Public Housing. Public Housing. Unless you live in NY public housing, why care? www.truthrevolt.org/news/new-york-public-housing-shootings-32-stopping
-stop-and-frisk

NYNY crime has dropped 3% since the beginning of the year - yet crime in public housing projects has jumped by the same amount. Shootings at NYCHA developments have surged 32% to 74 - representing more than a fifth of all shootings in the city.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

WHOZIT

Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Shooting deaths are up 32% in NYC since they stopped "stop and frisk." The gun control wackos will blame the gun instead of the fact that this guy watched violent video games and the fact that he was nutz.
Are you scamming? New York Public Housing shootings are up 32% since stopping Stop And Frisk. Public Housing. Public Housing. Unless you live in NY public housing, why care? www.truthrevolt.org/news/new-york-public-housing-shootings-32-stopping
-stop-and-frisk

NYNY crime has dropped 3% since the beginning of the year - yet crime in public housing projects has jumped by the same amount. Shootings at NYCHA developments have surged 32% to 74 - representing more than a fifth of all shootings in the city.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Public Housing that is in the Bronx, the Bronx is in NYC. So shoots are up 32% in NYC, correct?

SECOND

Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Public Housing that is in the Bronx, the Bronx is in NYC. So shoots are up 32% in NYC, correct?

Not correct. For NYC it is down. For public housing it is up.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

ELVISCHRIST

Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:34 PM

Next time there's a mass shooting that doesn't involve a gun, let's talk.

Meanwhile, gun nuts say "It's not the guns that are the problem. It's the mental illness."

And we continue to do nothing about either one.

Meanwhile, conservaderps will wonder if violent video games have any impact while claiming that violent rhetoric from the right can't possibly have any impact.

One thing that all mass shootings have in common: guns. That's the common link.

ELVISCHRIST

Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Public Housing that is in the Bronx, the Bronx is in NYC. So shoots are up 32% in NYC, correct?
Not correct. For NYC it is down. For public housing it is up.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

He's not real bright with the maths.

WHOZIT

Monday, May 26, 2014 12:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Public Housing that is in the Bronx, the Bronx is in NYC. So shoots are up 32% in NYC, correct?
Not correct. For NYC it is down. For public housing it is up.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

He's not real bright with the maths.

Again! These shootings are happening in NYC! My math is fine, just because it's happening in one area it's still in NYC! PLUS this is black on black crime, would this be a bigger story if white people (like white cops) were killing black people? Were's Al (The Rat) Sharpton and Jesse (Baby Daddy) Jackson? Or do they only care if a black person dies at the hand of a "white" person? Black on black crime isn't news, white on black crime is...fact.

ELVISCHRIST

Monday, May 26, 2014 12:35 AM

If one person lives alone in a house, and that person is shot, then shootings went up 100% in that house.

However, if that house is in a city of 10 million, shootings in that city did not go up 100%.

You keep saying that shootings in NYC are up 32%, when you've been corrected more than once and told that shootings in PUBLIC HOUSING IN ONE AREA OF NYC are up 32%.

You literally cannot see the mistake you keep making, because you are stupid. That iron-headed steadfast stupidity in the face of facts also explains why you're a conservative.

GEEZER

Monday, May 26, 2014 7:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Next time there's a mass shooting that doesn't involve a gun, let's talk.

Buried deep in the articles about this crime is the fact that three of the six people Rodger killed were stabbed to death, not shot.

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/national/path-of-the-california-
shooter/1060/

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Monday, May 26, 2014 10:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Next time there's a mass shooting that doesn't involve a gun, let's talk.

Buried deep in the articles about this crime is the fact that three of the six people Rodger killed were stabbed to death, not shot.

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/national/path-of-the-california-
shooter/1060/

OMG, we'd better regulate and confiscate knives, too.

WHOZIT

Monday, May 26, 2014 10:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Next time there's a mass shooting that doesn't involve a gun, let's talk.

Buried deep in the articles about this crime is the fact that three of the six people Rodger killed were stabbed to death, not shot.

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/national/path-of-the-california-
shooter/1060/

OMG, we'd better regulate and confiscate knives, too.

He also ran down people with his car before he started shooting, do we need more "car control" too? He was a woman hating, violent video game playing spoiled loonatic. Yelling for more gun control won't cut it here.

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Next time there's a mass shooting that doesn't involve a gun, let's talk.

Buried deep in the articles about this crime is the fact that three of the six people Rodger killed were stabbed to death, not shot.

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/national/path-of-the-california-
shooter/1060/

OMG, we'd better regulate and confiscate knives, too.

He also ran down people with his car before he started shooting, do we need more "car control" too? He was a woman hating, violent video game playing spoiled loonatic. Yelling for more gun control won't cut it here.

Yepper, after guns, knives, and cars, we'll probably have to go after rope, and sharp sticks, and big rocks.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 2:16 AM

There were over 1/2 a million deaths last year due to Alcohol, Tobacco and all of the lab-rat government experiements they perform with "pharm drugs" in 2013....

Not ONE SINGLE DEATH due to pot smoking...

FUCK YOU

EDITED TO ADD: All the Tron Fags agree after watching Lilly here...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

MIKER

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 3:18 AM

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:07 AM

Did ANYONE notice that this kid's mom is Asian, and HALF of the people he gunned down were Asian?

Imma thinking this kid just had some REAL mommy issues... Or Tiger Mommy issues????

So, Miker, if they decided that everyone that has a mental disorder, or brain damage,should be excluded from owning a gun would you give up YOURS??

The only reason I let my husband (who has Aspergers) have them is because he's on medication to control his anger issues. If he ever wants to go off it, I'd ask *nicely* for him to sell them, but I don't have any real recourse that doesn't include calling police and criminalizing him that I know of...

Maybe there should be a mental health/gun safety hotline that isn't backed up with a swat team?

MIKER

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:10 AM

ELVISCHRIST

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:18 AM

Right-wing mouthpiece Todd Kincannon refers to the victims as "cowering bitches."

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:52 AM

America, where if you can't be socially acceptable you kill yourself and/or others.
Mental health help?
Gun purchase restrictions?
That's for pussies.

Sorry- snark overload there.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:27 AM

Good thing all the social misfits who can't get a date don't go on a shooting rampage.

Good thing all the low self-esteem ex-dodgeball targets don't go on a shooting rampage.

Good thing all the stay-in-their-room video game loners with shitty self-absorbed parents don't go on a shooting rampage.

Good thing that shrinks have professional ethics restrictions regarding patients' privacy rights, even when any layman could easily predict their patient would go on a shooting rampage.

Every day that there isn't a shooting rampage is a miracle.

GEEZER

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:31 PM

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Originally posted by MIKER:

I am permitted to carry and do. Smith and Wesson 357 J Frame. I, as does this father want better background checks.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2014/05/christopher-mic
hael-martinezs-father-gets-it-right.html

Did you actually read this article? The author wants to take your handgun away and leave you with perhaps a hunting rifle.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

REAVERFAN

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:22 PM

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Right-wing mouthpiece Todd Kincannon refers to the victims as "cowering bitches."

A truly disgusting pos.

MIKER

Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:46 PM

GEEZER

Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by MIKER:

I want better background checks. It just makes sense to me.

Mr. Rodger passed background checks to buy all of his guns. He had no criminal record, had not been adjudicated mentally defective, and did not meet any of the criteria for denial on Form 4473.

http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf

What "better" thing would you want on background checks?

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

MIKER

Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:21 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:00 AM

This guy was seeing several therapists. He was posting hate filled manifestos on line. His family was worried sick he might do something. But none of this prevented him purchasing legal firearms, nor did it prompt the police to remove firearms. Your laws around guns are truly screwed.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Your laws around guns are truly screwed.

Want medicine? Expensive & impossible to get without a prescription.
Want a gun? Easy & cheap.

Like Early said, that sound right to you?

GEEZER

Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MIKER:
When mental health information is submitted to NICS, it can be effective at preventing firearm transfers by licensed dealers to dangerous people.

Per your link, California is one of only seven states that does not require mental health records to be submitted to the NICS system. Maybe they need to consider doing something about this.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

GEEZER

Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
This guy was seeing several therapists. He was posting hate filled manifestos on line. His family was worried sick he might do something. But none of this prevented him purchasing legal firearms, nor did it prompt the police to remove firearms. Your laws around guns are truly screwed.

I agree. Per our laws, even if his therapists or family considered him a danger to himself or others, they could not report him to the National Instant Check System or to the police unless he was adjudicated mentally incompetent by a court.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

MIKER

Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:57 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
This guy was seeing several therapists. He was posting hate filled manifestos on line. His family was worried sick he might do something. But none of this prevented him purchasing legal firearms, nor did it prompt the police to remove firearms. Your laws around guns are truly screwed.

I agree. Per our laws, even if his therapists or family considered him a danger to himself or others, they could not report him to the National Instant Check System or to the police unless he was adjudicated mentally incompetent by a court.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

Seriously? If you are a therapist and someone is saying that want to kill others, the police can't take action?

Dont therapists and police have a duty of care to protect the innocent, or do gun rights override that?

If your system is too unweildy, it wont work.

GEEZER

Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Seriously? If you are a therapist and someone is saying that want to kill others, the police can't take action?

Dont therapists and police have a duty of care to protect the innocent, or do gun rights override that?

Actually, most laws like that were put in place to protect the rights of people with mental problems. Mental health professionals have to be careful about reporting possible violence to the police to avoid being sued, and courts are hesitant to declare folks mentally incompetent to avoid placing a stigma on them.

Here's an article in Psychology Today that explains the part of the profession's viewpoint on mandatory reporting of possibly dangerous folks. They don't like it.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/shrink-rap-today/201301/gun-contro
l-and-mandatory-reporting-dangerous-patients

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, December 20, 2021 4:45 AM

Hilaria Baldwin and husband Alec are pulled over by police in the Hamptons days after FBI seizes Rust star’s phone
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/celebrities/17082550/hilaria-ale
c-baldwin-pulled-over-east-hamptons-police/

Chicago shootings: 18 shot, 3 fatally, in weekend violence across city
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-violence-shootings-gun/113581
22/

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, December 20, 2021 7:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
This guy was seeing several therapists. He was posting hate filled manifestos on line. His family was worried sick he might do something. But none of this prevented him purchasing legal firearms, nor did it prompt the police to remove firearms. Your laws around guns are truly screwed.
I agree. Per our laws, even if his therapists or family considered him a danger to himself or others, they could not report him to the National Instant Check System or to the police unless he was adjudicated mentally incompetent by a court.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

This thread is about Elliot Rodgers from May 2014. He was a victim of Doctors prescribing both psychotropic drugs Xanax and Vicodin, which had already been known to create mass murderers, serial killers, and cause homicidal ideation.
While the Doctors at fault here are not held responsible in any way.
MD immediately jumps to the guns running arounbd stabbing 3 people to death, and the gun that was driving the car trying to kill people, instead of the Drug Doctor Laws in USA which are totally screwing us, allowing Drug Doctors to run about unfettered having spree murders.

See the incomplete list in the 3rd post of this thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62257

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, December 20, 2021 8:23 AM

I remember back during my social drinking days that popping vicodin while drinking was all the rage. I didn't see it done too often at local house parties, but when I went to college parties it was all over the place.

It almost seems quaint now compared to the widespread abuse of oxycodone along with methamphetamine and fentanyl.

The entire drug industry should be behind bars. From the CEO's all the way down to the pharmacists.

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