So, Geezer, rappy, in your ideal world, what should happen?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:In this day and age of giburu anonymous search engine http://gibiru.com/ there is NO EXCUSE for people like Jongsstraw (and rappy) to be so woefully ignorant.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
1. Deliver the mail.
2. Defend America against the commies and the ragheads.
That's all the Federal Govt. needs to do.
How'd I get dragged into this again? Those are Jong's answers, and wtf do you even mean " there is NO EXCUSE " ? You mean anyone who doesn't agree with you have no rights ? I'm sorry, but the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights are pretty damn clear on what the US govt should / shouldn't do.
It's anything BUT ignorant to correctly state that our federal govt has FAR exceeded its rightful boundaries. The truly ignorant is you, who think you know what in the hell *I'M* believe, based on someone else's reply.
Good grief, the cult of stupid is strong.
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Geezer, you asked for a mechanism about how a Federal program can be applied regionally/ locally. So I described one possible outline based on the national air quality program. There are literally dozens of other ways it could be configured, based on who the money is paid to, who gets to oversee the programs, how quality is assured, and who and on what basis changes are made to the program.
I'll give you one more example,
Overall goals are set by the Feds. Various services (food delivery, in-home therapy, transporation assistance, house cleaning) are set up, in a semi-competitive basis. Just as with assisted living facilities, some will be better than others. Those who manage to attract and retain customers get more government funding. Federal government does accreditation inspections every three years (kind of like the Joint Hospital Commission) or so, and maintains an open to the public file of complaints.
I'm not going to detail the other dozens of possibilities. I assume this is enough.
Now, can we get back to your ideal world?
Quote:But, as I said, security is a rather broad word,
You have the right (and in my desired libertarian society, everyone understands and respects that you have the right) to yourself and your property and everything that derives from that - security of self and property (considering privacy, right to voluntarily associate or withhold association, etc., as part of self and property) - with the understanding that you can enjoy these rights without threat or coercion as long as that enjoyment doesn't threaten anyone else's similar rights.
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Quote:Because you are our poster child for all that is willfully ignorant.
How'd I get dragged into this again?
Quote:No, I mean that nobody has the right to claim an erroneous fact when things are so easily looked up! Yes, that means you.
and wtf do you even mean " there is NO EXCUSE " ? You mean anyone who doesn't agree with you have no rights ?
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Originally posted by Brenda:
We didn't have to pay for the care givers who came in to help with my mom, government medical covered it but what they didn't do, I did. Very taxing for me. By the time she died, I was run into the ground almost and I wasn't working or had a family depending on me besides.
My mom wasn't bed ridden till almost the end and my dad's siblings like him went quickly. Which is fortunate, for my cousins.
There was some in home care that he could get free, but it only amounted to small amounts per week. Basically, he was at the stage where he needed 24 hour nursing care and you dont get that for free.
It is very taxing to look after dying relatives. More so than most people realise, who haven't done it.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Because you are our poster child for all that is willfully ignorant.
How'd I get dragged into this again?
Which only means that anyone who doesn't buy into your thought police views, is " ignorant ". Got it.
Quote:Quote:No, I mean that nobody has the right to claim an erroneous fact when things are so easily looked up! Yes, that means you.
and wtf do you even mean " there is NO EXCUSE " ? You mean anyone who doesn't agree with you have no rights ?
Because you can't put anything on the internet that isn't true, right ?
Bonjour !
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OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."
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Signy
Maybe Geezer isn't around today.
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Maybe Geezer thought I forgot about this thread.
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Brenda- my MIL was "in hospice" at home. Because hubby and I work full-time, and also bc of our brain-damaged child (who was slipping into dementia at the time) we hired a full-time attendant. And it was STILL hard. Hubby took the evening to midnight shift, I took the 2AM to 6AM shift. I was constantly short of sleep, preparing a special diet (the ketogenic diet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet) for seizure control for our DD (which didn't do much good) and the physical and emotional toll was horrific.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
We didn't have to pay for the care givers who came in to help with my mom, government medical covered it but what they didn't do, I did. Very taxing for me. By the time she died, I was run into the ground almost and I wasn't working or had a family depending on me besides.
My mom wasn't bed ridden till almost the end and my dad's siblings like him went quickly. Which is fortunate, for my cousins.
The care givers who came in for my mom started at 1 hour during the day and one for 4 hours on 1 day because our family doctor was worried about me. They came in 7 days a week. That was my break time. Towards the end, she was getting 2 hours a day, seven days a week and I was given 2 days with 4 hour breaks for me. She was just about to go into hospice care when she died.
People who haven't done it have no idea how hard it is.
It is hard. We considered caring for him in shifts, and if I'd had a better picture of how fast the cancer was spreading, I'd have probably opted for that one. 6 weeks was doable, 18 months was not. We were actively discouraged from this choice by the medical staff at hospital.
It was all very unsatisfying. The whole system needs an overhaul. I don't expect free treatment 24 hours a day, but some more affordable in home care options would have been useful.
sounds like your system has some advantages over ours.
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