After all this time, which side are you on now?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, April 19, 2014 00:31
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Quote:That makes a strange and compelling kind of sense to me....
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Firefly is like Casseopia the med tech. Serenity is like Casseopia the socialtor.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Same reason Jayne got it in the leg twice; puncture an organ, lose a character.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
That wound was awfully close to where he got shot, too, in 'Out of Gas'. And Kaylee was shot in darn near the same area as well. Any reason for that ?
Wait... what ?
I think ya lost me there on that one.
Mal's 2 abdomen ( well, make that 3, if you count his poke in the side in Shindig )comes far closer to puncturing an organ than Jayne's leg wounds.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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AURAPTOR
Wait... what ?
I think ya lost me there on that one.
Mal's 2 abdomen ( well, make that 3, if you count his poke in the side in Shindig )comes far closer to puncturing an organ than Jayne's leg wounds.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
At the rate Mal was getting punctured it is probably best Firefly didn't run longer than it did.
I'm just a brown pair of shoes in a room full of tuxedos.
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Well, I'm a follower of both Shepard Book and Wash, so I gotta come down in the "movie not so much" camp. I do seem to be one of the few, if not the only.
But I wonder just what Alan did on the set to piss Joss off so bad. I take Wash's death extremely personally.
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Originally posted by SC_FF_FAN:
Whedon must have felt keeping the hope alive for a sequel would have killed his chances for new projects like the Marvel universe.
Joss' work on Avengers didn't start until at least five years after Serenity was in theaters, so I don't think that had anything to do with why he structured the movie the way he did. As Second continually points out, the original script had all the crew survive to the end of the movie, but he changed that to make it more dramatic. If you have seen any of Joss' other TV shows, you know that they continued past the deaths of characters, and the same would apply to Firefly/Serenity had the movie been more profitable.
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Quote:Nothing, Alan agreed to it willingly.
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
But I wonder just what Alan did on the set to piss Joss off so bad. I take Wash's death extremely personally.
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Originally posted by ecgordon:Quote:
Originally posted by SC_FF_FAN:
Whedon must have felt keeping the hope alive for a sequel would have killed his chances for new projects like the Marvel universe.
Joss' work on Avengers didn't start until at least five years after Serenity was in theaters, so I don't think that had anything to do with why he structured the movie the way he did. As Second continually points out, the original script had all the crew survive to the end of the movie, but he changed that to make it more dramatic. If you have seen any of Joss' other TV shows, you know that they continued past the deaths of characters, and the same would apply to Firefly/Serenity had the movie been more profitable.
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
How ever you want to call it , the " Oh, Shit! " reaction, " He did NOT just do that! " , etc... Joss absolutely LOVES to pull the rug out from everyone, and just when all hope is lost, to have his " Ah HA! " moment, followed by yet one more " Dammit ! " scene.
That stuff plays great to the uninitiated, those not familiar w/ his work. But going back to Angel and Buffy, it's a pattern I've come to expect.
That's why Cabin in the Woods was hardly as surprising for me as it was for others, who haven't seen ANY of his work before. It's like I knew the plot, but was still entertained as to how it was going to play out.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
There are two kind of Firefly fans:
1)"I love the series, but the movie... not so much."
2)"I love it ALL."
I sit proudly in the second section.
Let's discuss...
Camp #1.
I don't hate the movie and I appreciate that it's a pretty extraordinary thing for it to have been made. I like aspects of it a lot. Space battle! River bar fight!
But... it just doesn't contain enough of the elements I liked about the show and deals too superficially with the new stuff. Alliance is EVIL is a lot less interesting than the more complex structure they had on the show. River is the driving force behind them discovering what happened on Miranda and then she's has no voice to comment on it safe for "turn me into a stone" and looking around doe-eyed until it's time to kick Reaver ass? Makes her flat and boring. Mal threatens to shoot down his own crew-- what?? And that has zero consequences or is never mentioned again? Screw you, movie.
I rewatch the show, but only very occasionally rewatch the movie. It doesn't engage my imagination like the show did and as time passes the disappointed of that just gets worse.
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Quote:Serenity (2005) is a very slim version of what would have been an entire television season. What would things have been like if Joss Whedon had been able to tell the story of Serenity in 22 episodes rather than 2 hours?
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Serenity just doesn't contain enough of the elements I liked about the show and deals too superficially with the new stuff. . . . It doesn't engage my imagination like the show did . . .
Firefly: Still Flying has written that second season as a labor of love. Episodes are being posted every week. It is now at episode 8. www.bznetwork.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=365.0
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Firmly in the camp of loving both the series and the BDM.
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