Putin redraws Russia's borders, Obama makes Final Four picks
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Sig - THIS is what Mitt knew and Obama didn't.
Crimea Is Putin's Revenge For A 15-Year-Old Slight
Fifteen years ago this week, I broke a promise I'd given to myself: After being captured and threatened with execution by Kosovar guerrillas the year before, I had sworn to give up war reporting. Now I was on my way to Belgrade to report on the effects the NATO bombing campaign was having on Serbia. When friends challenged my decision, I explained that I thought the course of history was changing at that very moment and I had to document it.
I was wrong about the documenting-it part: I stayed in the region for six weeks, writing a number of stories, including 34 separate dispatches for Slate from Serbia, Montenegro, and Macedonia, but it took a lot longer than that for the catastrophic historic change to become evident. It has taken 15 years. Russia's invasion of Ukraine completes that story.
On March 24, 1999, Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov was on his way to Washington when he got word that NATO had begun bombing Kosovo. He ordered his plane turned around. A few hours later, he landed in a Moscow that was reeling from the insult of not being consulted. Russians had only a vague idea of what Kosovo was but a very strong concept of Serbia being a land of fellow Eastern Orthodox Slavs and of Yugoslavia being a rightful part of Moscow's sphere of influence. Not being consulted—or even, apparently, warned—sent the very clear message that the U.S. had decided it now presided over a unipolar world. There was no longer even the pretense of recognizing Russia's fading-superpower status: President Bill Clinton had chosen not to wait the few hours it would have taken for Primakov to land in Washington, allowing him to save face by at least pretending to have been in on the conversation.
http://www.businessinsider.com/crimea-is-putins-revenge-for-a-15-year-
old-slight-2014-3#ixzz2woBTVNkk
Mitt knew that Russia was and is our biggest geo-political concern.
Obama, ridiculed the idea, showing to all his utter ignorance and clueless stance on matters of world politics.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Quote:There is nothing in that article to show that Mitt knew anything about the event, or was generally concerned about Russia's role in geopolitics. I think you posted in another thread a specific quote from Mitt, but I'll be damned if I can remember which thread it was in. Once you've demonstrated that Mitt was concerned about Russia, then we can get to whether his concerns were justified or not.
Mitt knew that Russia was and is our biggest geo-political concern.
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What!???
SGG I'm so confused!
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:Quote:
Originally posted by BIGDAMNNOBODY:
Just like Bush,
Not really - Bush handled the Russian invasion of Georgia in much the same fashion, and there weren't a bunch of bloodthirsty idiots bitching that he didn't yet start another war.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
Completely wrong.
Putin invaded Georgia in Early August 2008, with the elections upcoming in USA.
Although Bush did not start a war that he wouldn't be around to finish, especially on the cusp of an incoming Commander in Chief McCain/Obamination, he did respond.
Bush Emergency Airlifted all Georgian Forces from around the world (mostly Iran/Afghanistan) peacekeeping duties back to Georgia to defend their homeland, stopping Putin in his tracks.
Putin thought he could take advantage of the weakness in US National Command Authority - the transition between CoCs. But he learned from that. First he made agreement with Obamination to do as he wished, but "wait until after I'm re-elected in 2012" (caught on live open mic he didn't plan), then switch from August when Yurp doesn't need Russian heating fuel to February, and now he has 3 years to take Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and anywhere else without any threat of a real President arriving in the White House (Jan 2017 at earliest).
So now the cardboard cutout occupying the White House has responded by sternly stating that he will make statements to provide claims which will provide encouragement towards capitulating that he will produce effective words about oppositional attitudes requiring that many shipment of limp noodles will be used to moderately lash their wrists. But to be clear, we will not allow the US military to get in your way no matter how much genocide you commit, Vlad - thanks for your support towards getting me re-emmaculated.
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Putin is a fucking dictator, a real one, not the warm and fuzzy kind like you guys say Obama is, and you guys are lapping it up like Purina Dog Chow.
The right has gone over the deep end praising this maniac, with his shirtless romps through the Russian back country, illegally reclaiming land that was signed over by his Russky mentor Kruschev, and no one seems to give a shit.
Do you have any sense of freedom and real world disgust for a dictator that invaded a sovereign nation? Like it or not Obama is the president, doing what he can to avoid getting the U.S. involved in another senseless war. When Shrub II was president, I was not a happy camper, but I did not go rooting for Sadam or Khadafy. Cheney is the embodiment of evil, I complained, yes I did, but I didn't ask the devil to come and retrieve him (well, actually I did. But he wanted no part of him, he said, "We're all stocked up here. Keep him.")
Where was I. Oh yeah, FUCK PUTIN!!!!
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Sig - THIS is what Mitt knew and Obama didn't.
Crimea Is Putin's Revenge For A 15-Year-Old Slight
Fifteen years ago this week, I broke a promise I'd given to myself: After being captured and threatened with execution by Kosovar guerrillas the year before, I had sworn to give up war reporting. Now I was on my way to Belgrade to report on the effects the NATO bombing campaign was having on Serbia. When friends challenged my decision, I explained that I thought the course of history was changing at that very moment and I had to document it.
I was wrong about the documenting-it part: I stayed in the region for six weeks, writing a number of stories, including 34 separate dispatches for Slate from Serbia, Montenegro, and Macedonia, but it took a lot longer than that for the catastrophic historic change to become evident. It has taken 15 years. Russia's invasion of Ukraine completes that story.
On March 24, 1999, Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov was on his way to Washington when he got word that NATO had begun bombing Kosovo. He ordered his plane turned around. A few hours later, he landed in a Moscow that was reeling from the insult of not being consulted. Russians had only a vague idea of what Kosovo was but a very strong concept of Serbia being a land of fellow Eastern Orthodox Slavs and of Yugoslavia being a rightful part of Moscow's sphere of influence. Not being consulted—or even, apparently, warned—sent the very clear message that the U.S. had decided it now presided over a unipolar world. There was no longer even the pretense of recognizing Russia's fading-superpower status: President Bill Clinton had chosen not to wait the few hours it would have taken for Primakov to land in Washington, allowing him to save face by at least pretending to have been in on the conversation.
http://www.businessinsider.com/crimea-is-putins-revenge-for-a-15-year-
old-slight-2014-3#ixzz2woBTVNkk
Mitt knew that Russia was and is our biggest geo-political concern.
Obama, ridiculed the idea, showing to all his utter ignorance and clueless stance on matters of world politics.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Quote:Yes, I do.
Do you have any sense of freedom and real world disgust for a dictator that invaded a sovereign nation?
I'm outraged... OUTRAGED.... that The Shrub invaded not one but TWO sovereign nations to the tune of over 100,000+ dead and a trillion dollars, the result of which is two broken nations which are hotbeds of sectarian violence, violence against women, and jihadism.
And I'm outraged... OUTRAGED... that Nobama did the same thing to Libya, was prepared to do the same thing to Syria, and that people in his administration had designs on Iran.
I'm OUTRAGED that Nobama has seen fit to use drones against anyone (including US citizens), anywhere, anytime... sliding past the authority of Congress to "declare war" by simply redefining war as "boots on the ground"... that this fucking spider sits in his White House web with his illegally-obtained information and his kill list.
And, to top it all off, I'm OUTRAGED that we saw fit to promote the overthrow of YET ANOTHER DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT (which BTW we're also trying in Venezuela) using Nazi wannabes and $5 billion.
Putin a dictator??? You jest!
The nation with the military which totals up to the rest of the world COMBINED, with designs on every single friggin' square inch of this globe is NOT Russia.
Look in the mirror, buddy. Whatever respect the President of the USA is supposedly due, they pissed away a long time ago when the decided to be World Emperor. So put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!
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You mean sgg was SERIOUS? And here I thought he was lampooning the position with his WAAAYYY over the top hyperbole.
"To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
-- Thomas Paine, The American Crisis No. V (1776)
OONJERAH
We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
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From my dim cave of dedicated political ignorance, I'll just suppose:
Putin could easily be as bad as our recent PotUSes. But we, apparently,
have waay more leverage and can get/borrow more money.
And yeah, it is very sad for me to see us go from the guys in the white
hats, WWII, to the guys who'll do any-illegal-thing to any other country
to maintain dominance.
Pearl Harbor was about a year before I was born ... But the fact that
my country was "always at war" directly because of the PH attack ...
that was my indoctrination as a toddler. Still very clear to me.
Totally real!
We went from Isolationism to full involvement in World affairs.
We always wore the white hat, just like Roy Rogers. Not! I know by now
that we are-were like any other group of people. Our leaders were some-
times great, but more often, mediocre or corrupt.
After WWII came our Strategic Air Command, and the insideous rise of
the Military-Industrial complex.
Tiger by the Tail:
Now we are as the Roman Empire. We have to rule the world for our own good.
It is sad to see us invading other nations. And so quick to point the
finger at any other country that does so. ... Outrageous.
Q: For this to be the spark for WWIII, Putin would need allies, yes?
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The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it. ~George Orwell
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
From my dim cave of dedicated political ignorance, I'll just suppose:
Putin could easily be as bad as our recent PotUSes. But we, apparently,
have waay more leverage and can get/borrow more money.
And yeah, it is very sad for me to see us go from the guys in the white
hats, WWII, to the guys who'll do any-illegal-thing to any other country
to maintain dominance.
Pearl Harbor was about a year before I was born ... But the fact that
my country was "always at war" directly because of the PH attack ...
that was my indoctrination as a toddler. Still very clear to me.
Totally real!
We went from Isolationism to full involvement in World affairs.
We always wore the white hat, just like Roy Rogers. Not! I know by now
that we are-were like any other group of people. Our leaders were some-
times great, but more often, mediocre or corrupt.
After WWII came our Strategic Air Command, and the insideous rise of
the Military-Industrial complex.
Tiger by the Tail:
Now we are as the Roman Empire. We have to rule the world for our own good.
It is sad to see us invading other nations. And so quick to point the
finger at any other country that does so. ... Outrageous.
Q: For this to be the spark for WWIII, Putin would need allies, yes?
<: ========================== :>
The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it. ~George Orwell
Have you heard of Cuba? North Korea? Vietnam? China? Venezuela? The new Russia-China coalition? Any other "country" that Putin chooses to massacre non-conformists in so they can "vote" in his "election" again. He must be very disappointed to get only 97% of the vote compared to Kim Jong Un's 100%. Good thing he had see-through ballot boxes and enough troops at every polling station to "deal with" that pesky 3%. Or did you not consider Russian military troops to be Russian military troops if they had their insignia covered up?
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The nation with the military which totals up to the rest of the world COMBINED, with designs on every single friggin' square inch of this globe is NOT Russia.
Ahh, you speak of China?
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Look in the mirror, buddy. Whatever respect the President of the USA is supposedly due, they pissed away a long time ago when the decided to be World Emperor. So put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!
Now I'm confused. Who decided to be World Emperor ?
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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The term applies
And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster
I feel so vindicated.
"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".
"To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
-- Thomas Paine, The American Crisis No. V (1776)
OONJERAH
We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
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