What would you keep, what would you change?

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SIGNYM

Saturday, February 22, 2014 1:44 AM

I would rewrite the law defining corporations... and define them out of existence. (Remember, the only reason we have corporations is because they're allowed and defined by law.) Every business entity would become a cooperative, where everyone who worked in it would become a part-owner.

Too big to fail banks, which are corporate entities? poof! (Credit unions are in fact owned by their depositors, so credit unions would continue.)
Corporate control of the media! POOF!
Corporate control of the internet? poof!
The stock market, that effing casino of speculation? POOF!
Insurance companies? Private hospitals? POOF! poof!
Interlocking directorates? Supersized influence on government? POOF!

Wow! I feel freer already!

I would eliminate The Fed, and place the responsibility for printing money back in government hands.

I would return our aircraft carriers and battleships and drones back to our borders, close our foreign bases, and bring our soldiers home. I would put them to work, fire-proofing our forests, rebuilding our wetlands, insulating our buildings, fixing our bridges, and other useful investments for our future.

I would suspend our so-called free trade agreements.

I would require each media outlet to represent state- and Federal-level candidates without charge.

I would require an education commission to develop a curriculum which teaches CRITICAL THINKING, and implement it as soon as possible.

I would add/ modify several Constitutional amendments:
An Equal Rights Amendment, not just for women but for everyone.
I would add a "vote of no confidence" to our process.

I would seriously look at changing our governmental structure. It's apparent that the balance of power among the three branches has become seriously overweighted towards the President.

I would eliminate the whole "born in the USA" 14th amendment, and make English the official language.

In return, I would provide a path forward to citizenship for all illegal residents, provided that they could prove residency for ten (15?) years, were not convicted of any crime other than illegal immigration, and learned to speak English FLUENTLY. After that?? NO MERCY to illegals, and no more anchor babies!

CHRISISALL

Saturday, February 22, 2014 5:11 AM

Signy for Prez.

I think I've said that before....

BYTEMITE

Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:28 AM

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and no more anchor babies!

Wait what?

That could potentially murder kids, if it involves deporting them back into a clusterfuck. And what about the contributions of children of hard scrabble immigrants to society?

And why is english speaking so important? That's would ruin cultural enclaves in America that spice up our country and force everyone to be assimilated. There's a reason the Borg were bad guys.

I agreed with pretty much everything you said up to that, since razing the existing economic power structures to the ground and going back to the very basics seems the only way to fix the current problems. But then it went somewhere strange.

BYTEMITE

Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:29 AM

And also, I didn't really want to get into this much, but... What about targeting the inherent concepts that cause the flaws and discrepancies in society? Like money itself. Or what about SCIENCE as solutions to some problems? Like mortality?

I mean you ask a question like this, you gotta think BIG.

I'm talking uploading my brain into a robot, and crazy stuff in a similar fashion. I said EVERYTHING because at that moment there were so many potentials and possibilities that it was impossible to articulate.

CHRISISALL

Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:47 AM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
What about targeting the inherent concepts that cause the flaws and discrepancies in society? Like money itself.

I like your style, Byte.
Money is so early 21st.
We need to evolve beyond that. Seriously.
Chuck Capitalism. Chuck Socialism.
Humanism. We should take care of our own.
Humanity.

BUT.

What's life without anger & hatred? Happiness?
Mankind would never go for that at this stage. Conflict is just TOO interesting. We're like a dude with a gambling addiction; we want to see how stupid choices play out.
Sadly.

I'll be happier in the 23rd Century....

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:50 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

I'll be happier in the 23rd Century....

Wait another two hundred years and you can bang Erin Gray.

CHRISISALL

Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:01 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Wait another two hundred years and you can bang Erin Gray.

Silly silly British man.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, February 22, 2014 8:55 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I would make "V For Vendetta" required viewing for all Americans.

My only problem with that is that it depends on which side of the fence one's standing. Hate to interject it here, but in The Phantom Menace, the Senator Palpatine does make a valid point to trick Aniken, when he points out the lawlessness of the Jedi. They couldn't go through the proper channels, because HE had rigged the system. So, if they go rogue, and try to take matters into their own hands, THEY are the lawless rebels. Aniken was naive and young. He wanted to believe in a system that wasn't broken, so when Palpatine painted a half accurate picture of events, omitting the fact that he himself was trying to rule and do away with the Republic, it was convincing enough.

As Obi Wan aptly put..."Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view "

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

1KIKI

Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:01 PM

A lesson you could learn, rappy.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!

As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies

And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:02 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Sig posted in another thread:
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Specifically, I'd like to know which aspects of the USA you think are worth keeping, which ones you'd like to change, and how far is "too far" in terms of change in the USA.

She suggested we start a new thread, so I'm game, we'll see if it goes anywhere. Here's my contribution:

I guess I'd start, for one thing, with redistricting, that's a real biggie for me. The parties should never be in charge of it. If we changed just that, I think we'd at least have a more representative form of government, tho' it wouldn't make a gigantic difference.

Term limits--for ALL government offices. I watched our Willie Brown control this state for decades from various offices, and it taught me a lot. It's a two-edged sword, unquestionably, because it takes time to accomplish anything in government, but the way it is now doesn't work very well.

Election reform, that's a biggie. The 501c-3 thing is a travesty; thus far JUST money hasn't been enough to buy everything, but given time, it'll just get worse. There's a lot more to election reform, but that would be a start.

Lifetime appointments to the Supreme Court. Another double-edged sword, but one that, the way it's become now, is really screwing us. And the involvement of Supreme Court Justices in politics, which is wayyyy out of hand right now.

Lobbyists, and the revolving door of politics/lobbying. None of these would be easy to fix, even if there was the will to do so, and I don't know how they could be fixed, but they're working against us as a country.

Organizations like ALEC being able to dictate to politicians. NO idea how you fix something like that, but the way it is now, with them WRITING our fucking laws, is abominable.

A real biggie for me--and you can't "make" it happen, would be more than just the two-party system. I think more VIABLE parties with power would go a ways toward improving what's happening today.

That's off the top of my head, nothing more, and I haven't the vaguest idea how to change any of that, all I've done for years is just try to bring things to peoples' attention, I don't know what more can be done.

Ironically, everything you posted I would agree with and most of them would make it on my top of the list to do if we actually had any pull.

My number one thing would be to find out a way to make a politician PAY for not living up to their promises. Fucking Tide gets sued if their top-shelf product doesn't clean clothes or it cleans them but makes mothers bear children with birth defects. Why should GWB be able to lie to us for 8 years straight, followed by 8 years of Obama lying to us?

Glad to see you finally thinking Third Party Niki.

Welcome to the club ;)