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Poll: Who is to blame for shutdown?

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Thursday, October 3, 2013 12:03 AM

The F-35 fighter program will cost approximately $1.5 trillion over the course of its lifetime. It is being built in Fort Worth, Texas, and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas is not calling for that program's shutdown, as he loudly and unceasingly is for a Federal shutdown. He is not even calling for a temporary shutdown to address hundreds of F-35 engineering problems. Republicans are not sincere about ending wasteful and incompetently run government programs. -- www.vanityfair.com/politics/2013/09/joint-strike-fighter-lockheed-mart
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Thursday, October 3, 2013 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by second:
There are other demands. Republicans also want Paul Ryan's tax reform, the Keystone XL pipeline, partial repeal of the Clean Air Act, partial repeal of bank regulation legislation, Medicare cuts, cuts in several anti-poverty programs, making it harder to launch medical malpractice lawsuits, more drilling on federal land, blocking net neutrality, and a suite of changes designed to make it harder for regulatory agencies to crack the whip. - www.nationalreview.com/corner/359534/revealed-house-gops-debt-ceiling-
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I'm wondering if the shutdown at all hinders the SEC and other financial regulators, and other regulators (enviro, OSHA, etc.) their ability to regulate.

Big numbers generate more interest than small ones. (random brain dropping)



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Thursday, October 3, 2013 4:18 AM

Is there a poll that asks how the shutdown affects you personally? Unless you're a do nothing Gov employee or wanted to take a walk park do you think most people give a fuck?

Do you give a fuck about the shutdown?

__ Yes

__ No

__ Maybe

__ Donut

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Thursday, October 3, 2013 4:25 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:

Is there a poll that asks how the shutdown affects you personally? Unless you're a do nothing Gov employee or wanted to take a walk park do you think most people give a fuck?

Do you give a fuck about the shutdown?

__ Yes

__ No

__ Maybe

__ Donut



__ Yes

__ No

__ Maybe

__ Donut

X Fuck No



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KPO
Thursday, October 3, 2013 5:38 AM

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Who is to blame for shutdown?

Maybe the people saying, "Give us what we want, or we won't pass a bill to keep the government funded."

Just a thought.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Thursday, October 3, 2013 6:11 AM

Bing...o.

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Friday, October 4, 2013 2:08 AM

Great minds think alike...........;-) hee, hee!

Before anyone thinks I copied Ezra, no, it's just common sense folks.

BTW, there are approx. 30-40 House Republicans that are holding the country hostage, they represent approx. 15-18% of the country. Plus you have House reps that don't have the balls to oppose the Tea Party reps starting with the Big Boner Boehner. If he had any real guts he would tell them what for and push through a Clean CR and get this country back to work.

The Tea Party are biting their nose to spite their face. I back the president 100%, whatever you do - DON'T CAVE IN!!!


SGG

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Yeah, Shiny, I got caught in that deluge. I turn 65 in a few days, so could drop my Medicare Supplemental insurance and get a cheaper policy, still with Anthem. So I did my little on-line application, but when it came to setting up the auto-pay feature, it crashed. Then their system got overloaded big time and the whole THING crashed. In order to get it in under the deadline, I had to fill out a paper form, scan and e-mail it to my rep and she faxed it to Aetna. They were that inundated by people trying to sign up the first day of Obamacare!

And yes, Ezra Klein said exactly what you did:




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Friday, October 4, 2013 2:54 AM

That's typical of the hypocrite Ted Cruz is, lying bastard. This is all to set himself up to run for The Big Chair. I say, let him run. He'll expose himself as the biggest farce this side of the Pecos, he's basically a butched up Sarah Palin who's riding the wave of Tea Party anarchists - wait, I take that back. That's an insult to anarchists around the world.

Tea Party Terrorists is more like it. They want to rewrite history and create a 3rd Party. The republicans within what's left of the GOP have played right into their hands. I'm speaking of the gerrymandering that have redefined Congressional districts to benefit the Republican party. But they have seen their fellow conservatives replaced by Tea Party candidates who feed off the crazies that think America belongs only to the rich and squeaky clean. This is an economic and class war. Patriots!?, Please......
they fly in the face of the Constitution.

Checks and balances people, checks and balances.

Congress does hold the purse strings, it is in the Constitution. But is also states that "to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States." Notice it says United States, not certain people within the United States. With the SHUT DOWN, are they fulfilling their Congressional duties? Please stop and think before you answer.

My guess is that the Tea Party will break ranks and declare themselves as a third entity and syphon off monies from ultra neo conservatives (ahem, Koch brothers, etc) who feel that the GOP, in it's present form, are too warm and fuzzy for their taste. This may happen sooner than you think, the mid-term elections are almost upon us......watch and wait.


SGG

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Originally posted by second:
The F-35 fighter program will cost approximately $1.5 trillion over the course of its lifetime. It is being built in Fort Worth, Texas, and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas is not calling for that program's shutdown, as he loudly and unceasingly is for a Federal shutdown. He is not even calling for a temporary shutdown to address hundreds of F-35 engineering problems. Republicans are not sincere about ending wasteful and incompetently run government programs. -- www.vanityfair.com/politics/2013/09/joint-strike-fighter-lockheed-mart
in


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, October 4, 2013 4:02 AM

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/02/jon-stewart-destroys-callous-fox
-news-host-fck-you-for-mocking-the-poor
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I'm fascinated by the way that the righties on this board mirror exactly what Fox news spews. I don't often get exposed to this horror, but when I do, I can guarantee that I'll see the same sentiments expressed by those who shall not be named on this board.

In this instance, it's the 'I'm not losing any money, so who gives a fuck about anyone else' - which should be the Republicans new motto. Very catchy.

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