What's the deal with KPO?

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BYTEMITE

Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:18 AM

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No, I don't remember. I'm often gone. Aside from that my memory is laughably poor. Do you remember, was I around and posting around that time, or MIA?

You were there. I dropped SEVERAL F-bombs. But then, considering what I was being accused of, a few F-bombs were kind of warranted.

Things between me and HK had never really been good, we aren't able to see eye to eye. But being accused of lying about a personal experience like that, and being told that I ENABLE that kind of thing was pretty much the worst thing anyone has ever said to me.

I've actually had the PRIVILEGE of hearing that same accusation directed my way THREE TIMES over the course of my time here. I guess I'm just lucky.

The people who have said these things to me I hate with a surprising ferocity. And yet I do not express this by insulting them ALL the TIME. I imagine they don't even know how much I hate them - well, except HK, because I've made it pretty blatant now.

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SignyM didn't 'call for backup' either. I posted this on MY OWN BEHALF to show what I think of his dickness.

Fair enough, no back up was called. Sig warrants this kind of response because you're her friend. It is clear to me that I do not.

There's a commentary here about division lines that can be made. Point stands.

SIGNYM

Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:33 AM

BYTE- like I said, I kinda like you. But I have to make choices... time choices, emotional choices... between those to whom I OWE my attention (like, my daughter, who didn't ask to be born and specifically didn't ask to be born brain-damaged), those who offer me real affirmative help, and those that I would LIKE to contact but are just barely out of reach. I'm sorry, hon. I feel like our fingers touch from time to time, when the whirpool of life's events bring us a little closer, but then you get too far out of reach. I admire your ZING!. Please understand that if I could offer friendship or peace, I would, but family, love, and bonds lie elsewhere.

1KIKI

Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:42 AM

"But being accused of lying about a personal experience like that, and being told that I ENABLE that kind of thing was pretty much the worst thing anyone has ever said to me."

AH! NOW I remember. I recall it being a very very strange set of communications. I tried but didn't really 'get' what either of you were posting about. Tho I assumed the two of you knew since there was back-and-forth. (As a complete aside, I've had similar situations happen in the past IRL. People will say things and, while I know the words, the fact that it's a topic makes no sense to me. WHY would someone say THAT? It makes what they say uninterpretable to me.)

"Sig warrants this kind of response because you're her friend. It is clear to me that I do not."

We haven't really had a very long association. Some things happen with time. It's not a slam on you.

The other part is that I really despise Jong. So there were two impulses going on in me in that incident between SignyM and Jong, a push and a pull.

HKC in your case had me mostly baffled. As I posted above, I mostly didn't get it.

HKCAVALIER

Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:13 AM

Aw geez. Sorry folks, obviously LOTS to talk about and I will, but before this Byte thing goes any further, I just gotta say:

1.) Byte, thanks for the vote of confidence at the top of the thread. I know that was hard for you to say and it means a lot to me that you would say it.

2.) Byte, you can dig up the entire conversation and you will not find that I accused you of lying about any abuse you experienced. I said you were talking about rape like someone who had no idea what she was talking about. Which is to say, frivolously, glibly, luridly. I asked you to stop doing that. Only afterward did you reveal that you had in actuality been assaulted, but by that time you'd already said your fuck you's to me and you were aggressively misunderstanding every word I wrote, so even though the misunderstanding was particularly grave and hurtful there seemed little point in trying to dissuade you. I am genuinely sorry that this has brought so much grief into your life and that you've decided to hate another person. Particularly, when the hate, from where I'm sitting, seems to be based on simple misunderstanding.

Anyway, sorry, folks, that's all I have time for right now.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

BYTEMITE

Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:50 PM

Um, no.

But I'm not going to argue about it, because I have no interest in an apology. Not the one you just offered - which, I note, holds me entirely to blame for what happened - nor any other.

The point is, I don't insult you all the time, despite having reason to feel an extreme amount of animosity towards you.

Having calmed down a bit, it appears I might have to face the concept that the fights that the left and right get into might be just as painful as being called what I was... And ultimately what matters is that hurt was inflicted, and not the quantity, degree, or type of insult.

So, I suppose I should rescind my example, and apologize to 1kiki and Sig.

(and for further clarity - I do still think of most people here as friends, and that all of YOU could be friends too. I just have no hopes of ever having the friendship I feel returned by anyone)

Since this argument of mine has fallen through, I am unsure what approach can next be taken for this thread, to discourage the back and forth that has been seen and try to mend some of the damage that has resulted in this situation. You probably have better ideas, HK - and people are more likely to listen to you because you aren't a fuming she-bitch rage ball.

KPO

Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:18 PM

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1.) Byte, thanks for the vote of confidence at the top of the thread. I know that was hard for you to say and it means a lot to me that you would say it.

I was surprised as well, but then I realised Byte was probably trying to stick up for Jongsstraw.

It's not personal. It's just war.

BYTEMITE

Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:23 PM

I posted in response to HK because he was trying to make a point about how the behaviour on this board breeds hostility and I agreed with it - much to my DISTASTE, but then, the people we hate aren't always wrong.

I said what I did to you because if someone from the right made a thread demanding that YOU explain your opinions and behaviour and asked what your deal/problem was in the title, you'd feel like it was an attack on you.

If I was just trying to stand up for Jongstraw, I wouldn't have posted a thread a week ago calling him out for what he's been doing. Rather I'm interested in standing up for all of you. None of you deserves what you call each other or how you treat each other.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:33 PM

Byte, none of what you wrote in either thread went un-noticed, and for what it's worth, you and HK have earned a lifetime pass from me. Anything either of you post in the future, regardless of content and tone, will be accepted in good faith.

BYTEMITE

Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:42 PM

And I'm still sorry about how I approached that. And... Well maybe all of this. I kinda suck at being an intermediary. I use my personal experiences as examples to try to help me identify with people and hope that by doing so they feel that connection. But I know that it probably gets really tiresome hearing me talk about me, me, me all the time especially because it often accidentally leads to some serious thread hijacking. That's never what I intend to happen, but I get carried away with how I'm feeling sometimes.

And so I should apologize to HK too at least about this.

KPO

Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:43 PM

I'm always happy to explain my opinions and/or behaviour. But then again I don't troll and spam the forum... If I did, I would expect to have to answer for my actions.

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you'd feel like it was an attack on you.

I'm quite indifferent to people attacking me; I generally find it amusing. However people ascribing false motivations to me is disappointing.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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