What's the deal with KPO?
POSTED BY: HKCavalier
UPDATED: Friday, June 7, 2013 19:26
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Hey everybody,
I don't know what KPO thought he was doing starting that attack thread on Jongsstraw (couldn't even be bothered to spell the man's handle correctly). And yes, it was a (passive aggressive, to be sure) attack thread. You start a thread where you invite a bunch of people who've made their contempt for Jongsstraw abundantly clear to speculate on what happened to make him so impolite. Gee, what could it be??? How do y'all miss that the thread title answers its own question? It really disgusts me sometimes the way the lefties hereabout claim the moral high ground in one breath and then endlessly demean and objectify the right-leaning posters with whom they share this board in the next.
I don't know how the right-wing folks do it. I mean, how they put up with the ENDLESS insults and petty-ass namecalling. "Raptard?" Really? What the fuck kind of way is that to talk to another human being? And the "Little Rappy's" and even "Jongsie's" that y'all throw around and then you turn around and expect to be treated only with respect in return?
Y'know what happened? I'm thinking Jongs got fed up with being treated like the token semi-human conservative on the board. It is disgusting that you should expect civility from ANYONE when you treat them so poorly, so entirely dismissively.
Y'know, when I address a post of mine to Jongsstraw, he almost always replies and when he does, he does so with all the grace and civility I could hope for. I think it might just be because I don't treat the man like ambulatory shit.
You want to be treated right? Treat people right. Period, end of story.
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This is fair.
I approached the thread with an actual attempt at bridge mending, but having misread KPO's intentions, I am now less able to mediate with Jongstraw because I now appear insincere. A ration of very similar malicious threads demanding explanations from other board members has become a warning sign for conservatives to stay clear or prepare to fight. And then when they rightfully suspect that they'll get attacked if they post there, the other board members call them cowards and liars for refusing to walk into an obvious trap.
I have perhaps more issues with you than anyone else here, HK - you're in a group of three people who I avoid replying to their posts. But in this case it was necessary. You might be the only one who can be successful now at restoring some semblance of okayness around the board.
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I bear Jongs no ill will (on the contrary, I've always kinda liked him); I just want to know what his current deal is.
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Y'know what happened? I'm thinking Jongs got fed up with being treated like the token semi-human conservative on the board.
This speculation belongs in the Jongsstraw thread, not the kpo thread.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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Well, no, it doesn't, because it's not meaning to explain Jongstraw's behaviour but rather call you guys out.
Jongstraw doesn't have to justify himself anymore than any of you do, but you feel like you get the privilege of demanding a justification... Why exactly?
Because you were picking a fight. Whether or not you realized it.
I see now that this is where I went wrong with Jongstraw, whatever insights I might've thought I had. I am again sorry for my contributions to that fight.
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Since I've been coming to this boards, the venom has definitely been coming from both right and left.
Did you miss the 'libtards' 'feminazis' 'libs hate freedom, work, babies' comments?
Not saying that justifies doing it, but it definitely has not been a 'left attack right board'.
What I have noticed is there are few right winged posters who post intelligently. Jongs used to be one of them.
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Oh, certainly. But whenever I talk to some of the people on the left about the kind of stuff they say to the right wing, (you aren't among them as far as I can tell Magons), the response I get back is that the right wing has said far worse things to them.
And Wulf did once call someone on the left something I won't repeat here, and often expresses a wish that person should die. That is inappropriate. But you know what else is inappropriate? Telling Wulf that he should "stop breeding" or that his daughter is screwed because he's her father. Expressing a wish that Wulf might shoot himself someday because he loves his guns so much.
So it isn't about who said the worst thing, it's about not insulting other people just because they disagree. Not calling them liars or cowards if they aren't able to explain their opinion to the satisfaction of people who will probably never be satisfied by their explanation, or if they ignore something their side considers irrelevant, but the other side believes causes their argument to fall apart. Not provoking people into a fight so they act out and confirm some existing prejudice so people feel like they have a free pass to abuse them. It doesn't convince anyone, doesn't help the argument, it just makes things around here hostile, until there aren't any talking points or discussions except for left wing versus right wing.
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Most of the regulars in RWED are capable of semi-civil conversation, but there are less than a half a dozen that are only here to fan the flames. They enjoy the fights more than the discussion and never have any serious contribution to the current topic. I think if the people on the left and right made a list of the flame faners we'd probably agree on four out of six. I've been in some pretty serious flame wars around here in the past and you can tell who the serious posters here are by the way they treat you in the next thread after a flame war. For most all is forgiven an forgotten in the next thread, but of course the few insist on battles being carried thread to thread. I think the most helpful thing which I know is impossible for me is to just ignore the few and only respond to those that have made a serious attempt at discussing the current subject. I know this has been suggested many times and will never happen, but as much as I love a good flame war they do become tiresome.
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Well, no, it doesn't, because it's not meaning to explain Jongstraw's behaviour but rather call you guys out.
Jongstraw doesn't have to justify himself anymore than any of you do, but you feel like you get the privilege of demanding a justification... Why exactly?
Because you were picking a fight. Whether or not you realized it.
I see now that this is where I went wrong with Jongstraw, whatever insights I might've thought I had. I am again sorry for my contributions to that fight.
Please don't be so melodramatic Byte. None of it is a big deal. It's actually all a bit ridiculous. So relax, you've been fair and I like you.
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Please don't be so melodramatic Byte. None of it is a big deal. It's actually all a bit ridiculous.
I sometimes *DO* kinda do that... >_> v_v
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Hey everybody,
I don't know what KPO thought he was doing starting that attack thread on Jongsstraw (couldn't even be bothered to spell the man's handle correctly). And yes, it was a (passive aggressive, to be sure) attack thread. You start a thread where you invite a bunch of people who've made their contempt for Jongsstraw abundantly clear to speculate on what happened to make him so impolite. Gee, what could it be??? How do y'all miss that the thread title answers its own question? It really disgusts me sometimes the way the lefties hereabout claim the moral high ground in one breath and then endlessly demean and objectify the right-leaning posters with whom they share this board in the next.
I don't know how the right-wing folks do it. I mean, how they put up with the ENDLESS insults and petty-ass namecalling. "Raptard?" Really? What the fuck kind of way is that to talk to another human being? And the "Little Rappy's" and even "Jongsie's" that y'all throw around and then you turn around and expect to be treated only with respect in return?
Y'know what happened? I'm thinking Jongs got fed up with being treated like the token semi-human conservative on the board. It is disgusting that you should expect civility from ANYONE when you treat them so poorly, so entirely dismissively.
Y'know, when I address a post of mine to Jongsstraw, he almost always replies and when he does, he does so with all the grace and civility I could hope for. I think it might just be because I don't treat the man like ambulatory shit.
You want to be treated right? Treat people right. Period, end of story.
Brilliant! Inspired! I'm quite verklempt after reading your words. Nothing else to say except Thank You.
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