Associated Press condemns US telephone record seizure

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And the standard rightard answer is that it's NEVER his fault.



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Originally posted by Kwicko:


Care to show me where I said that?


For someone who constantly bitches about people putting words in your mouth, you sure do put words in other peoples' mouths an awful lot. Might want to see to that.

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My dear boy... who ever said I was quoting you?

Since you're not too bright, I'll s'plain it to ya.

I was commenting on the standard, Left wing response to EVERYTHING that Obama does wrong, and some how it ends up being Bush's fault.

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Huh. That's a new one. I specifically responded to Geezer, and Rappy pipes up to answer as if he's Geezer.

They seem to be joined at the... well, hips are probably involved, at least... but Rappy answering a reply where I quoted Geezer and asked a direct question, there's something you don't see every day.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Care to show me where I said that?

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"I even argued that the reason I didn't want Bush to have these unprecedented powers was that someday he would be replaced by someone else, and who knew who that guy might decide to target."

So.

But Bush asked for these powers that the current administration is abusing.

Actually, your referencing warrantless wiretaps and search and seizure under the Patriot Act or other such laws isn't really apt, since the opinion of pretty much everybody - Left, Right, and center - is that the seizure of the AP phone records is illegal under any present law.

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"You didn't" would have sufficed. Especially since I didn't.


By the way, can you cite for us the specific law(s) you think this is against? It's against some of the DOJ's *regulations*, but those aren't really laws, are they?


And what about the fact that Republicans demanded an investigation into the AP and how they were getting their leaked info? Seems now that they've been investigated, the GOP wants to try to cook up a scandal about it.

http://www.politicususa.com/31-republicans-demanded-investigation-ap-l
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In the lead up to the 2012 elections, Republicans were upset that the Obama administration was getting such great press on national security issues, so they pretended to be upset about the national security implications of the leaks to the AP.

In the spring of 2012, 31 Republicans called for AG Eric Holder to investigate the leaks after they accused the Obama administration of leaking stories about his toughness on terrorism to the press in order to win an election.

The Hill reported on the Republicans’ letter:

“The numerous national-security leaks reportedly originating out of the executive branch in recent months have been stunning,” they (Republicans) wrote to Holder.
“If true, they reveal details of some of our nation’s most highly classified and sensitive military and intelligence matters, thereby risking our national security, as well as the lives of American citizens and our allies. If there were ever a case requiring an outside special counsel with bipartisan acceptance and widespread public trust, this is it,” they wrote.

Republicans had really hoped the AP scandal would stick, especially with Benghazi Gate backfiring on them in numerous ways, not the least of which was the revelation on Tuesday that ABC had not actually read the emails the Republicans were using to indict the White House, and in fact the actual email said something quite different than was reported. It turned out that the email had been edited in the way it was reported so as to deliberately make Obama/Clinton look bad.

However, the AP scandal is also dying because there is no scandal. The phone records of the AP reporters were obtained legally (I’m not condoning what many see as the chilling of the press, I’m simply pointing out that it was done legally).

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So the GOP wanted an investigation, right up until they got one. Why does that sound familiar? Hmmmm...




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Hey, we tried to warn y'all about the dangers of warrantless wiretaps and warrantless searches and seizures. "Paranoid" and "un-American" was what we got called for our troubles.

I even argued that the reason I didn't want Bush to have these unprecedented powers was that someday he would be replaced by someone else, and who knew who that guy might decide to target.

And again I was called paranoid and reactionary.




So while I think this kind of crap is terrible, nobody here really has any right to call it unexpected. Think about it next time: if you wouldn't want your political opponents to have such a power, don't grant it to your political allies.

I can't make it any clearer for you.

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So.

"But Bush..."?

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Care to show me where I said that?


For someone who constantly bitches about people putting words in your mouth, you sure do put words in other peoples' mouths an awful lot. Might want to see to that.

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Larn how to post quotes then, moran.



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