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Texans petitioning to withdraw from the United States

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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:41 PM

Ooo, ooo, ooo, a conservative? Hi, I'm Niki, don't think you have been around since I joined a couple of years ago (tho' I could be wrong). I'm a liberal, but I've been praying to have intelligent conservatives here for ages and ages--you know the ones who could be part of a discussion civilly...are you one of those? We've got Jong, and a couple of other civil types who aren't technically conservatives or Republicans, but the rest are a pretty sad representation of conservatism, Republican, right wing, whatever.

You've obviously been remembered with fondness, and the few posts you've put up sure sound like you might be a real-life, intelligent, decent person...could my dream have come true?

Either way: greetings and welcome back (if I may be so bold, given I'm obviously a newbie in comparison to you).

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:15 PM

On this issue:

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Some on the right are concerned that the petitions to secede, posted on a White House website by angry voters, are setting conservatives up as easy targets for the mockery of liberals.

Damned straight!
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Whether these disgruntled folks are just conservatives venting about President Obama’s reelection, or whether they really believe they’d have a brighter future in the United State of Georgia, say, is an open question. But they’ve received a lot of media attention in recent days, to the point where some on the right are asking this question: Are these people just helping the left?

That’s because the whole thing goes beyond the appearance of sore losing and nears the outer rings of planet lunacy. It makes conservatives look unhinged and foolish, in this view, setting them up as easy targets for the mockery of liberals. Take Jon Stewart, who on his “Daily Show” Tuesday night said he now understands why so many Southerners still fly the Confederate flag.

“It’s like keeping your fat pants after you lose some weight. You’re happy for now with the new you, but ..." Mr. Stewart said in a segment titled in part “Whine Country.”

http://www.thedailyshow.com/

We would not be surprised if angry voters from all 50 states eventually start petitions since there are some irritated citizens everywhere, after all.


My gawd, I just noticed, some idjits from CALIFORNIA posted one! Talk about being diagonally parked in a parallel universe... I WANT THEIR NAMES! Deport them from California!

Once again I ask: Aren't these the people who most often say "America, love it or leave it"??

Well, apparently there are those out there with two brain cells left to rub together, anyway:
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Other conservatives have been blunter in their defense of the integrity of the nation that was kept together by Abraham Lincoln, a Republican. Over at the RedState blog, editor Erick Erickson – no softy, given that he wants to oust Speaker John Boehner in favor of Rep. Paul Ryan – scoffs at the whole effort.

“We here at RedState are American citizens. We have no plans to secede from the union. If you do, good luck with that, but this is not the place for you,” he wrote on Tuesday.

“Talk of secession is asinine, counter-productive, and distracting,” Charles C.W. Cooke of the National Review wrote.

One of the best pieces of evidence supporting Mr. Cooke’s above conclusion is that these petitions are still up. They’re on a White House website, remember. If the Obama administration thought this movement truly undermined the White House, don’t you think it’d find a reason to take them down?


No, keep 'em up...let us laugh at these sore-loser asshats for just as long as we can! It's up to 34 states as of this writing, which just goes to prove that there are right-wing dimwits in virtually EVERY state!

Good luck with that, you s

To me, one of the biggest giggles is Papa John's guy...gonna have to cut their $2 billion company by $8 million to provide healthcare; at the same time a he has an ad out promising to give away two million pizzas!

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:15 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Its all just pathetic t-bagger posturing anyway. Id bet several thousand of those signatures would go away the second they learned that the Dallas Cowboys could no longer play in the NFL. Yee-haw.


It is kinda silly. It's the 150th Anniversery of the Civil War, secession is a settled issue.

Now what they should be doing is petititioning to kick other States out.

Let's start with California and Vermont (California is one earthquake for being Nevada anyway and is by definition a 'fiscal cliff' and Vermont wants to go anyway and it's no big loss since we can ski and get syrup from New Hampshire). Then we'll take Rhode Island and merge them with Connecticut and do we really need two Dakotas when we barely have enough people for one...how about just Dakota and its big without many people...like Alaska. Let's see. Merge New Jersey and Delaware (New Delajers or Snookivania). Get rid of Detroit (literally...with bulldozers and some nice landscaping, maybe a rain garden). Make New York City a Federal city like Washington DC (NYCDC), also...I've never been happy with the West Virgnia panhandle, so lets get rid of that and give them some extra cushion on the south side to make up for it. Statehood for Puerta Rico and American Samoa. We give Washington State to Canada in exchange for Quebec and a province to be named later...hmmm...can we reroute some rivers? No, that's too much.

Done.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:18 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Hi, I'm Niki...I'm a liberal


Hi Niki. Welcome to your first meeting. The first step is admitting you have a problem. Just remember take it one day at a time.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Kwicko, you're in congress?

/Jayne




With "The Beast", according to some in my family...

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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:58 PM

I usually avoid political subjects like the plague. I find most people don't want to consider another view they just want to voice theirs.

I have lived in Texas my whole life, and that's more than few decades. So I feel the need to come to it's rescue in this case.

Now in Texas you don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. I have heard the tale of Texas retaining it's right to secede for the nation since I was old enough to understand what the word meant. I was told that in grade school. While it is untrue, it's hard to convince someone that has heard it stated as fact their whole lives that it's untrue. No more so than those Bigfoot hunters will believe its a guy in a monkey suit. (We have Bigfoot's in TX too...or guys in monkey suits)

I've heard talk of secession over issues a lot less meaningful than election results. It's the go to when things upset you. " I hate (fill in the blank) we should secede"

It's how we blow off steam. It's not serious, and the vast majority of hard working Americans that happen to doublely bless to be in the Great State of Texas understand this.

So go a little easy on us. There is a petition on the same site that ask us to establish new legal system of motorcycle riding "Judges" who serve as police, judge, jury, and executioner all in one, Judge Dread style. It only has 83 signatures, but still that's a hell of a lot crazier than this.

So thank you for your understanding in this matter. Try to remember the great Texans that came before. That are not signing this petition (granted many are dead but I don't think they would)

Buddy Holly
Bonnie and Clyde
Walter Cronkite
Janice Joplin
Bob Wills
Gene Roddenberry
(Wow a lot of them are dead)
Carol Burnett (shes still kicking ain't she?)
Dan Rather
And ZZ Top

Thank you from the Lone Star State. (It's not lone because we want to be alone it just looks awesome.)

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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:52 PM

. . .^- Applause!

========================= ETA
Add: Alan Tudyk, Tex Ritter, Robby Benson, Brent Spiner,
Rip Torn, Dennis Quaid, Kris Kristofferson, Powers Booth,
Gary Busey, Thomas Haden Church, Woody Harrelson,
Forest Whitaker, L Q Jones, Fess Parker, Patrick Swayze,
Chill Wills, Larry Hagman, Gene Autry, Robert Foxworth,
Matthew McConaughey, Ethan Hawke, Owen Wilson,
Jamie Foxx, Michael Dorn, Tommy Lee Jones ...

AND Audey Murphy

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Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:07 AM

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Originally posted by BookOnboardSystemCom:
Now in Texas you don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. I have heard the tale of Texas retaining it's right to secede for the nation since I was old enough to understand what the word meant. I was told that in grade school. While it is untrue, it's hard to convince someone that has heard it stated as fact their whole lives that it's untrue.


Welcome to the sharkpit, Book!

Yeah, I have a lotta fun tearing into the hypocrisy on that one, not only knowing history but also from having once lived in Tex-ass, the part that rooked me worse is how they use the term "Yankee" in the exact same fashion as a racial slur, up to and including one Best Buy clerk refusing to ring up my purchases, man I was pissed - especially since I was born SOUTH of the Mason Dixon line...
*rolling eyes*

Not all bad though, decent food, at least.

-Frem

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Thursday, November 15, 2012 7:23 AM

I'm excited about some new (to me) people in this thread. Wash and Book too, that's funny. I'm Riona, I'm rowdy and obnoxious, I like new (to me) people. Wash how long ago were you here? I came at the beginning of 2011 so you must have been around before that. The more people we have around here the more diverse opinions we have and even if I don't always agree with what is said I think its really fantastic to have a place to say what you think with no moderation or censorship, you have to censor yourselves, sometimes it works better than others but it is good.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:13 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Hi, I'm Niki...I'm a liberal


Hi Niki. Welcome to your first meeting. The first step is admitting you have a problem. Just remember take it one day at a time.



Chortle.

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