Trump's Big Announcement Tomorrow
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
You said that Obama was either being honest than, which means he was born in Kenya or that he is lying at the time. I brought up Breibart to address the first part, that the President was not infact born in Kenya. Than I address the second part pointing out that person who published the bio states it is a mistake.
I STATED those 2 things because those are the most likely options AVAILABLE ! If 'born in Kenya' is implausible and flat out absurd, then that doesn't leave much else. Obama knew.
( actually, there IS a 3rd believable option, that the publisher herself lied, to make Obama look more 'sexy'. I put that above her making such a glaring mistake. Far easier to claim 'oops!', than fess up to having overtly fabricated a writer's bio. She probably thought nothing would ever come of this guy anyway, so what difference would it make ? )
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Really you need to find a way to grow a brain. I can imagine it gets frustrating for you when people are blowing through your simplistic views really fast. Don't expect the rest of us to slow it down for you.
Dunning-Kruger effect. You wear it well. I mean, how could ANYONE with any brains at all not believe YOUR bullshit ?? They'd have to be stupid, is the only explanation, that you can fathom.
Too gorram funny.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Surely Trump has definitely questioned the LEGALITY of Obama's presidency.If, by your own constitution, the president MUST be an American national, if he is questioning his birth certificate, what else would he be questioning, OTHER than the legality of the presidency??? I'm confused as to your semantics Rappy??/
With the grace of age, commander, we learn to accept.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I STATED those 2 things because those are the most likely options AVAILABLE ! If 'born in Kenya' is implausible and flat out absurd, then that doesn't leave much else. Obama knew.
( actually, there IS a 3rd believable option, that the publisher herself lied, to make Obama look more 'sexy'. I put that above her making such a glaring mistake. Far easier to claim 'oops!', than fess up to having overtly fabricated a writer's bio. She probably thought nothing would ever come of this guy anyway, so what difference would it make ? )
Yes she could have lied, but that would not help you attack the president would it? Funny how you seem to have that moment of clearity after stating, "If 'born in Kenya' is implausible and flat out absurd, then that doesn't leave much else. Obama knew."
It is like the small sane part of your brain took control for a moment there.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.
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Wow. Rappy will really go to the mat for anyone who's looking to attack Obama. Sure, it makes no sense, and leads to everyone (even, in this case, other conservatives) laughing at him like he's a bufoon - but he's dedicated to his silly little crusade, Ill give him that.
Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.
"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You " KNOW " that Romney lied on WHERE he lived when he filed his taxes, and yet some how, the IRS is oblivious to this information ??
Perhaps Mitt was given the Timmy Geithner pass?
Would that make it all right in your book? Would that make it just fine if Romney got the same "pass" as Geithner? Would you have zero problem with Geithner if that were the case?
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Oh, wait... I think we'd have heard something bout all that.
Not from the right-wing media, you wouldn't, apparently. Others of us DID hear about it, quite a bit.
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Residency issues have plagued Mitt Romney in the past. When he campaigned for governor of Massachusetts in 2002, he ran into trouble because he had switched his residency to Utah three years earlier when he moved to Park City to take over the struggling Salt Lake Olympic operation. The move technically made him ineligible to run for office in Massachusetts, which requires seven years of continuous state residency before a candidate is eligible to run. After a lot of legal wrangling and paying back taxes, he was finally allowed on the ballot.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-f
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How Romney had filed his Massachusetts income taxes — as a resident or non-resident — during his years in Utah could have had some bearing on the issue. Since he had also been contemplating a run for office in Utah, some suspected he might have filed as resident there to establish more permanent roots in the Beehive State.
Romney initially refused to make a copy of his Massachusetts tax returns public, even a copy with the income information redacted. Suspicions only grew more intense after the Globe’s Frank Phillips reported that Romney had paid property taxes on his Park City, Utah, home as his primary residence for 1999, 2000, and 2001. Campaign aide Eric Fehrnstrom said that had happened because of a “clerical mistake” by the relevant county assessor’s office in Utah, an account that office pretty much backed up, though no one could say quite how the unusual error had occurred.
At the time of the property tax brouhaha, Romney told reporters he had filed his state income taxes “both as a resident of Utah and a resident of Massachusetts.” Pressed by Phillips, Fehrnstrom also insisted Romney had filed as a Massachusetts resident, adding that “you are just going to have to take my word for it.”
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2012/07/12/the-tale-mitt-past-tax-r
eturns/YXYBWSuP08kqj8IFKeg4cM/story.html
Of course, it was later revealed that the Romneys had, in fact, claimed their home in Utah as their residence, both to lower their Utah property tax burden and to avoid the Massachusetts income tax.
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Cites ?
See above. Need more?
Had you honestly never heard anything about any of this, even when it came up multiple times on this very board?
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I guess you're blindly buying into the STORY that Obama had no clue that his publisher made a " mistake " on his Kenyan birth. It was the publisher, 100%, all by herself, not doing her job, not doing what it is that publishers routinely do for a living, that is fact check their client's bio.
So are you "blindly buying into the STORY" that a clerk in the Utah tax assessor's office made a "mistake" in checking the box on the Romney's tax forms that said they claimed Utah as their primary residence, even though there was no evidence that any clerk in that office had ever made such a mistake in the past or since? They made that "mistake", doing what it is that tax clerks do for a living, which is checking over the tax forms that people send in?
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Obama lied. Period, end of story.
You've never shown any evidence to support that claim. You can say that there is a book-jacket mini-bio that is in error, but you haven't shown any proof that Obama wrote it, or that he ever even saw it before it was published. And according to you and Geezer, if he didn't know ab
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LOL. Nice.
I can't believe rappy has gone full birther.
Wait...
Yes, I CAN believe he's gone full birther - Im just kinda surprised he waited so long to go off that particular deep end.
Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.
"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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I agree, Mark. Totally ridiculous arguments. For one thing:Quote:
It's because there's no reason for Romney to do this, as there's no HINT of impropriety anywhere with him, unlike with Obama.
Of course there is, and legitimate impropriety that SHOULD cause questions about his taxes:Quote:
1. It’s well known that Romney has deposited a lot of his money in banks in Switzerland, the Bahamas and the Cayman Islands. However most people don’t remember that in 2009 the Internal Revenue Service announced that those who illegally hid money in offshore accounts would not be prosecuted for tax evasion if they would come forward to settle up.
Given his refusal to disclose his taxes is it unreasonable to suspect that they would reveal that he took advantage of this amnesty to avoid prosecution?
His personal assurances that there’s nothing for the public to be concerned about are worthless. If these concerns have no merit it would be trivially easy for him to dispel them once and for all ... release the records. http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20121024/OPINION02/310240011/Romn
ey-has-lots-hide-tax-returns?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7COpinion%7Cp
2. THE BOSTON GLOBE (June 7, 2002): Republican gubernatorial hopeful Mitt Romney contradicted his previous public statements yesterday, and said for the first time that he did not file Massachusetts income tax returns for 1999 and 2000 as a resident of this state. Quote:
in 2002, when he was running for governor of Massachusetts, Romney was equally adamant that he would not release his tax returns. A key issue then was Romney’s eligibility to serve as governor. Massachusetts law requires that in order to serve as governor, candidates must have resided in the state for the previous seven consecutive years. Because Romney had lived in Utah full time while he ran the 2002 winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, it seemed obvious he did not meet that requirement.
One way to tell for sure would be to see which state, Massachusetts or Utah, Romney listed as his primary residence on his IRS forms. Romney and his adviser, Eric “Etch-A-Sketch” Fernhstrom vehemently denied that Romney had filed as a full-time resident of Utah. It was later revealed they were lying — Romney had amended his returns to change his claim of full-time residency in Utah to full-time residency in Massachusetts — retroactively. http://www.pensitoreview.com/2012/08/08/romney-hid-his-returns-in-2002
-mass-governors-race-too/
3. Romney deliberately didn't claim deductions on last years' tax returns which would have put his tax rate at less than 14%, which he has claimed over and over he never paid less than. That he would do so merely for political reasons should make anyone question his motivation on other matters where he has contradicted himself directly, purely for political reasons.
So there's not just a "hint" of impropriety, there is ACTUAL impropriety when it comes to his 2002 tax returns, impropriety where he ADMITTED he lied.
It's well known by now that there must be SOME valid reason Romney won't show his returns. The broo-ha-ha over it is such that the cost of NOT releasing them would be far higher than releasing them, unless he'd done something wrong, illegal, or so unpleasant that he fears it would cost him the election.
Which will have absolutely NO effect on Rap continuing to insist otherwise, or pay any attention to the facts.
The woman in question also DOES work for a publishing company, not for Obama, so that is yet another "misspeak", if you will. To say it's not been "SHOWN" that the mistake was hers and not a deliberate lie by Obama is disingenuous, because it can't be proven. She has stated it was her fault; unless it can be proven otherwise, we have to take her word for it.Quote:
This is a sorry excuse for political propagandism.This is the ravings of an eccenric lunatic who is losing t
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Trump apparently didn't even name a charity he would donate to. He mentioned AIDs research though, so I looked and found a group with a good rating.
This makes me wish the Donald could feel shame. But he can't. Instead, I will wish futilely that the internet can focus my disgust and resentment so hard that maybe he'll trip on a $20,000 rug in one of his gaudy tasteless offices.
I will also see if I can tie this into the donation drive going on at work this month, maybe they can double my contribution.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
LOL. Nice.
I can't believe rappy has gone full birther.
Wait...
Yes, I CAN believe he's gone full birther - Im just kinda surprised he waited so long to go off that particular deep end.
Where is this bizarro world in which you live ?
Birther? Wow... your reading comprehension sucks.
Bad.
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Trump apparently didn't even name a charity he would donate to. He mentioned AIDs research though, so I looked and found a group with a good rating.
That's because the challenge is for OBAMA to name the charity, as it's HIS choice, not Trump's. His mention of AIDS, Cancer, or helping inner city children of Chicago were merely examples. I bet , if Obama named several, to split up the donations, Trump would comply.
Provided Obama steps up, which of course, he won't.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Obama's responce on Jay Leno...
“This all dates back to when we were growing up together in Kenya,” said the president, to much laughter. “We had constant run ins on the soccer field. He wasn’t very good, and he resented it. When we finally moved to America, I thought it would be over.”
http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/10/25/obama-responds-to-trumps-offer-on-j
ay-leno-show/
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/49548651/#49548651
The President simply mocks and dismisses Trump as the fool he is.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.
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