The High Price of Telling the Truth About Islam
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Monday, February 6, 2017 02:51
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Interesting tactic.
I'm pretty sure racidal christians/jews/hindus/pastafarians/whatevers have all been guilty of crimes, just not the ones you listed.
I'm also pretty sure that most of the ones you did list were policitally motivated, with radicalized religion being only an aspect, not the cause of the crime. You don't seriously allege that the children of Beslan were murdered because Islam said so, do you? Or that it was Islam that motivated the tragedy at the '72 olympics? Or that Islam and Islam only caused 9/11?
There was a political aim to most of the things you list. Take religion out and the political aim remains. Terrorists come in all faiths. The fact that such a large number of politically motivated terrorists these days are also islamists has a complex set of historical causes that are also mainly political. It's an unholy alliance between political anger and religious identity. This, too, is not really caused by Islam.
There are radical islamists in the world and they cause harm. It's a real problem. But there are also MORE peaceful muslim people in the world, which contradicts your (apparent) assertion that Islam itself is a cause of terrorism. That's a fact you seem to ignore.
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So, it's just dumb luck that the most violent acts committed, world wide, just HAPPEN to involve Muslims ? That such things are more based in politics, and it just HAPPENS that it's Muslims involved ?
Wow.
" Terrorists come in all faiths. "
No duh. Never denied that for a moment. But by in large, THE MOST violent attacks seem to be carried out in the name of ONE particular religion.
You seem to not want to acknowledge that. For what ever reason.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Has anyone here disputed, though, that radical Islam sucks? Because it does. Radical anything is bad.
There is no contradiction to this in asserting that not all of Islam is radical or militant. Or that other religions/ideologies, when radicalized, become dangerous and oppressive. Attacking Islam is not the answer, Attacking fanaticism is.
Radical Buddhists didn't fly any jet planes into sky scrapers.
Radical Baptists didn't kill 350 school children in Beslan, Russia.
Radical Jews didn't go on a shooting spree in Mumbai
Radical Scientiologists didn't blow up tourists in Bali.
Radical Wiccans didn't murder Theo Van Gogh
Radical Methodist didn't blow up 1500 year old statues of Buddha.
Radical Hindus didn't murder Olympic athletes in the '72 Summer games.
I could go on all day, but I doubt the message could be made any more clear. There is one and only one religion which follows the word " radical " in each and every one of those examples.
Either you get it, or you don't.
Radical Muslims didn't kill Dr. Geller in his church. There is only one and only one religion which follows that example.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, it's just dumb luck that the most violent acts committed, world wide, just HAPPEN to involve Muslims ? That such things are more based in politics, and it just HAPPENS that it's Muslims involved ?
Wow.
" Terrorists come in all faiths. "
No duh. Never denied that for a moment. But by in large, THE MOST violent attacks seem to be carried out in the name of ONE particular religion.
You seem to not want to acknowledge that. For what ever reason.
If only you could apply that same kind of logic to the global climate change issue. But for political reasons, you are unwilling to see facts.
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero
"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Has anyone here disputed, though, that radical Islam sucks? Because it does. Radical anything is bad.
There is no contradiction to this in asserting that not all of Islam is radical or militant. Or that other religions/ideologies, when radicalized, become dangerous and oppressive. Attacking Islam is not the answer, Attacking fanaticism is.
Radical Buddhists didn't fly any jet planes into sky scrapers.
Radical Baptists didn't kill 350 school children in Beslan, Russia.
Radical Jews didn't go on a shooting spree in Mumbai
Radical Scientiologists didn't blow up tourists in Bali.
Radical Wiccans didn't murder Theo Van Gogh
Radical Methodist didn't blow up 1500 year old statues of Buddha.
Radical Hindus didn't murder Olympic athletes in the '72 Summer games.
I could go on all day, but I doubt the message could be made any more clear. There is one and only one religion which follows the word " radical " in each and every one of those examples.
Either you get it, or you don't.
The other thing they have in common is that most of them are Arabic peoples as well, and them what ain't was following an Arabic religion when they done doed it, so there's definitely a good reason to kill as many Arabs as possible as well. Good thing we're fighting two wars with 'em! Yay, more drone strikes = less Arabs = more freedom! Well it's true.
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Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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I'm fine with the Arab world. They gave us pyramids, pi, and lots of neat stuff before the Greeks or Romans came along. Islam? Not so much a fan.
And Kwickie ? Don't much care for agenda driven or FAKED science. It's sort of a pet peeve of mine.
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It's odd that you refuse to apply the same criteria to the rest of your life, such as your "news" and information sources. All agenda-driven, often FAKED, yet you are utterly blind to it.
Since you've shown yourself to be so far removed from reality in every other area of life, why should one assume you know what you're talking about when it comes to climate change?
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
It's odd that you refuse to apply the same criteria to the rest of your life, such as your "news" and information sources. All agenda-driven, often FAKED, yet you are utterly blind to it.
Since you've shown yourself to be so far removed from reality in every other area of life, why should one assume you know what you're talking about when it comes to climate change?
Your words hold no validity, no meaning, at all. I may be far from YOUR reality , but not from actual reality. Big difference
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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Has anyone here disputed, though, that radical Islam sucks? Because it does. Radical anything is bad.
There is no contradiction to this in asserting that not all of Islam is radical or militant. Or that other religions/ideologies, when radicalized, become dangerous and oppressive. Attacking Islam is not the answer, Attacking fanaticism is.
Yeah, that is the point I have been trying unsuccessfully to make. Rappy loves to dump on all Muslims - that is 23% of the world's population with their mixed cultures, ethnicities and denominations as being ALL fanatical terrorists.
Yes, much of the Muslim world holds different values to the USA. Yes, much of the rest of the world holds different values to the USA. Some Muslim values I dislike, some US values I dislike.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The only thing which is a struggle to comprehend is why you flood the issue with irrelevant and peripheral topics.
You're going full out of your way to not deal w/ the issue as is, and instead trying to drown out the discussion in a sea of noise.
Yeah, bad things abound on this planet. Lots of people suck. That's NOT the issue here.
And if you think blaming communists for the crimes they committed, or pointing out the true dangers of radical islam is making 'scapegoats' out of anyone, then your head is shoved so firmly into the dark, there's no point of trying to have a rational exchange w/ you, at all.
So you didn't read the second link. I thought as much.
It is the point that lots of people suck and you continue to focus on one group. That is the scapegoating. No-one condones the actions of terrorists. No-one here does anything other than condemn the practises of radical Islam, but only you are fool enough to be unable to distinguish 'radical' from Islam.
Never had a rational exchange with you yet, Rappy. But anytime you want to step up, feel free.
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