The High Price of Telling the Truth About Islam
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Rappy, son, before you ever even knew Islam existed I was against funding the mujahideen... no matter that they "said" they were anti-Communist.
Saudi Arabia, our best buddy in the ME, has been funding radical Islamic madrassas for decades. Hell, I remember reading about it when I was a teenager (Horn of Africa) and that was a long time ago! And Pakistan (our secret mideast lover) has been funding the Taliban for about as long. You might also recall I was against invading Iraq... one of the sole bastions of secularism in the ME. Likewise, not real crazy about toppling Qaddafi either, another secular nation. The reality is that our State Department really doesn't mind dealing with religious nutcase regimes, as long as they promise to accept US dollars and IMF loans and sell us cheap oil. In fact, they prefer dealing with ANY corrupt regime, and most religious regimes areas corrupt as they come.
Deal with it. Or go argue with our gubmint about funding our enemies with our tax dollars so that ExxonMobil can get a bigger profit. That is the reality of the day.
You may as well title your thread "The High Cost of Oil" and be done with it.
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Originally posted by Cuda77:
Hey Magons, if that article about the Salvation Army you mentioned is online, would you mind posting up the link? I'd love to show it to my friends who get all indignant when I refuse to give the SA money when they're out collecting money during the Christmas season.
Socialist and unashamed.]
http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2012/06/26448/
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Rappy, son, before you ever even knew Islam existed I was against funding the mujahideen... no matter that they "said" they were anti-Communist.
Saudi Arabia, our best buddy in the ME, has been funding radical Islamic madrassas for decades. Hell, I remember reading about it when I was a teenager (Horn of Africa) and that was a long time ago! And Pakistan (our secret mideast lover) has been funding the Taliban for about as long. You might also recall I was against invading Iraq... one of the sole bastions of secularism in the ME. Likewise, not real crazy about toppling Qaddafi either, another secular nation. The reality is that our State Department really doesn't mind dealing with religious nutcase regimes, as long as they promise to accept US dollars and IMF loans and sell us cheap oil. In fact, they prefer dealing with ANY corrupt regime, and most religious regimes areas corrupt as they come.
Deal with it. Or go argue with our gubmint about funding our enemies with our tax dollars so that ExxonMobil can get a bigger profit. That is the reality of the day.
You may as well title your thread "The High Cost of Oil" and be done with it.
^ what signy says
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
I understand where this man is coming from, but frankly I feel pretty much the same about all religions...
Not "all religions" have the recent track record of violence as radical Islam, and on a global scale.
And to be honest, it's not even close. Sorry, but when I hear folks come back with the, " ALL RELIGIONS are like this, blah blah blah..." rant, I tune out. All I hear is the Left's unyielding desire to try to make EVERYONE , everything, 'equal', no matter what. Not only equality of outcomes, but also equality of blame, for any conflict. This is a major flaw in the thought process of how some think.
Yes, to some extent, they are, but only radical Islam , as it's being widely practiced today, teaches that non believers must be turned, taxed, or killed.
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The reality is that our State Department really doesn't mind dealing with religious nutcase regimes, as long as they promise to accept US dollars and IMF loans and sell us cheap oil. In fact, they prefer dealing with ANY corrupt regime, and most religious regimes areas corrupt as they come.
It doesn't seem who matter who the President is, the State Dept has always baffled me, in how it views the world. They're like their own little govt, going about things in a way which seems counter to both what the Left or Right wants. Even when a new Secretary is put in place, the body of the agency seems to just go along, about its business, what ever the hell that is. Seldom, it seems to me, that the State Dept ever has the best interest of the United States in mind with regards to how its policies are developed.
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Yes, to some extent, they are, but only radical Islam , as it's being widely practiced today, teaches that non believers must be turned, taxed, or killed.
Thing is, it's not "only" Islam. You know this, yet as you say, you like to "tune out" whenever the truth is mentioned.
http://www.samesame.com.au/news/local/8583/Salvos-apologise-for-put-ga
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Not only equality of outcomes, but also equality of blame, for any conflict. This is a major flaw in the thought process of how some think.
Well YEAH. I blame everyone for everything without qualification, including myself. Whether we're bystanders, or just shortsighted, or if we actively pushed some issue to it's breaking point, we've all got a responsibility.
People are pretty easy to understand, if you push them, they push back. If you can't figure out HOW you pushed them, you're not trying hard enough. If someone is telling you that you have no fault or blame in any of the problems in the world, they're just trying to get elected.
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Not only equality of outcomes, but also equality of blame, for any conflict. This is a major flaw in the thought process of how some think.
Well YEAH. I blame everyone for everything without qualification, including myself. Whether we're bystanders, or just shortsighted, or if we actively pushed some issue to it's breaking point, we've all got a responsibility.
People are pretty easy to understand, if you push them, they push back. If you can't figure out HOW you pushed them, you're not trying hard enough. If someone is telling you that you have no fault or blame in any of the problems in the world, they're just trying to get elected.
Sometimes folks aren't being pushed, but still want to blame their failures on others. They resent the success of their neighbors and falsely think their own problems stem from the other guy doing well.
It's like Saruman, in LOTR. He stirred up hatred in the men of the Wild to go to war against Rohan, not out of any real, new injustices the Rohirrim had done, but because Saruman NEEDED a bunch of angry folks to fight his battle for him. It's a common theme from history which Tolkien taps into.
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"You may as well title your thread "The High Cost of Oil" and be done with it."
Ouch. Yes.
There are some other factors however, notably Israel.
The US has to follow a completely crooked path in the Middle East. On the one hand it has to stay friendly with oil-producing nations. On the other hand it has to support Israel. On the third had it has to oppose anything resembling socialism. The one way to accomplish this is to support dictators, b/c they are the only ones who can guarantee trade under favorable conditions. This support is through the sale of arms, but also through trade agreements, and diplomatic favor.
Generally the US will not tolerate, and will not allow its dictators to tolerate, anything resembling a socialist opposition. That leaves radical Islam as the only organized opposition to corruption, 'the West' and Israel's brutality. Once the dictators fall, these organizations fill the void.
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They resent the success of their neighbors and falsely think their own problems stem from the other guy doing well.
While I can see your Saruman thing with the religious leaders that drive believers into these fights, I'm not really sure at all it has anything to do with them being JEALOUS of us.
That's the explanation you're going with? Really? Jealousy. Not even fanaticism or zealotry?
Okay, so why are they jealous of us infidels who are going to burn in hell?
Not even getting into the point that it's difficult to drive someone into a frenzy without the list of real or perceived injuries and grievances not having SOME kernel of truth. The men of dunland were driven to anger over a land dispute thousands of years ago - to us, this seems silly, but to people who live off the land, this can be far more serious than we can understand.
But even that is seriously simplifying a very complicated situation, where people have died on both sides and brought the conflict to a fever pitch.
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I saw an interesting video of this, where the soldier went after the small boy for waving a flag during the Jerusalem Day parade:
MOST interesting were the bloodthirsty comments written by Israelis in the publication, every single one stated either that the boy should have been killed, or that Palestinians should be exterminated, or both. I'm in the process of retrieving that link so everyone can see for themselves.
What it tells me is that radical Jews are just as violent as radical Muslims. Not that little Rappy would care, b/c, in what passes for his mind, it's only a problem when Muslims act that way.
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