The Talk.
POSTED BY: Wulfenstar
UPDATED: Friday, April 13, 2012 00:04
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It's kinda scary that he's breeding, and will pass on his cro-magnon views to a new generation.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
Yes, its racist. Yes, its harsh.
But.
Is it wrong?
Yes. It targets an entire group of people for no reason other than the color of their skin.
"I have no real clue of what you're speaking." - AwRaptor.
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"Yes. It targets an entire group of people for no reason other than the color of their skin."
In Vietnam, soldiers were wary of women pushing strollers.
In Iraq/Afghanistan soldiers are wary of most anyone.
Stupid people can't tell the difference between Africans, dark-skinned latinos, and blacks.
I've been accused of living in a fantasy world....
Ok. I keep believing people are smarter than I see.
Take a walk in Detroit, Newark, 8th ward (Houston). Brooklyn. Chicago.
Its not skin color. Its culture.
Yes, trailer-park trash act the same way. So do Mexis. Its the culture of the left side of the bell-curve. But some groups end up on the wrong side of humanity, more than others.
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We're all from Africa originally.
Skin pigmentation is about absortion of vitamin d. Pale skin is a mutation that assisted in survival in an ice age in europe.
Most of us have little idea of our racial/ethnic origin further back than a few generations. Many countries in the world are such melting pots for races that it would be difficult to accurately pin anyone down on what they were.
Race identity is probably mostly about perception. How one perceives oneself and how one is perceived by others. Often those two things clash.
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There's had it coming.
There's askin for it.
And then, then there's the dumb shit YOU do, Wulfenwhiner.
Lemme put it to you from a different angle, you being such a radical "patriot" and all.
This country, this nation, was FOUNDED on the principles of equality in response to a whole damn lot of religious, social, economic and other discrimination resulting in effectively a caste society which the whole lot of them, even the goddamned Federalists, despised, and rightly so!
And thus when they broke with the Government of the King, and formed their own, they penned a document, and within were these words.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That, Wulfie, does *NOT* reconcile with your racism and cultural bashing, with your intolerance, with your pathetic ego-driven NEED to perceive yourself as "better than", no, THAT hearkens back to the divine right of Kings, forments in the "Born Better/Born Bad" phonyass self-justification of the predatory, and finally lands square on the altar of Hate, as you practice and revel in the worship of the concept.
For all your pretense of holding to american ideals, your very conduct spits upon them with every foaming diatribe vomited forth from that festering pie-hole connected up to the corroded mass of quivering fear and paranoia which appears to substitute itself for a brain, in your case.
Because what really scares you, what terrifies you the worst, is that you are NOT "better than", that there is no inherent superiority...
And we are all merely - EQUAL.
And thus I name you for the Tory quisling milqetoast that you are, an affront to the entire meaning of the county which has the misforture to have claimed you, and bid you good day.
-Frem
"I do not serve The Blind God"
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PS. I *live* up here next to Detroit - do you ?
Don't talk shit you know NOTHING about, child.
-F
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
This is unquestionably true.
I don't argue against this, nor seek to say that it is an outdated ideology that doesn't meet the needs of a 21st century society.
Instead, I simply do 2 things.
One is post the musings of another person.
The second, ask you to disprove those ideas.
Let me give you some boundaries, however. Prove them (being the entirety of the article and its views) wrong (NOT in a moralistic point of view).
You want to say these ideas are wrong, go for it. But PROVE it using the scientific method.
This is not simply a moral question. In fact, for too long it has been framed as such.
Instead, I would argue, it is a scientific, survivalist question.
Take it point by point.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
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The connection between race and intelligence has been a subject of debate in both popular science and academic research since the inception of intelligence testing in the early 20th century. There are no universally accepted definitions of either race or intelligence in academia, and any discussion of their connection involves studies from multiple disciplines, including psychology, anthropology, biology, and sociology.
The American Psychological Association has said that while there are differences in average IQ between racial groups, and there is no conclusive evidence for environmental explanations, "there is certainly no [direct empirical] support for a genetic interpretation," and no adequate explanation for the racial IQ gap is presently available.
I consider Wulf's assertions and proofs to be inconclusive. I also have little doubt that it will probably never be possible to prove any theories about race and intelligence and causes, for both political reasons and for the simple truth that it is, essentially, comparing apples to oranges, or meters to seconds, as the basic parameters vary far too much between groups and between individuals to get any useful data out of either. As such, I would propose that it's generally better to approach every person on a case by case basis, and I'd also propose that some attitudes are self-perpetuating and engender certain predictable responses.
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Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
"Yes. It targets an entire group of people for no reason other than the color of their skin."
In Vietnam, soldiers were wary of women pushing strollers.
In Iraq/Afghanistan soldiers are wary of most anyone.
So do you think that the U.S. military is actively at war with black neighborhoods here in the U.S.? If not, I fail to see the correlation you're reeeeeeeeaaalllly stretching to try to link to.
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Stupid people can't tell the difference between Africans, dark-skinned latinos, and blacks.
Are they really different? Are they not human beings?
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I've been accused of living in a fantasy world....
Ok. I keep believing people are smarter than I see.
Take a walk in Detroit, Newark, 8th ward (Houston). Brooklyn. Chicago.
Its not skin color. Its culture.
So why was this racist warning his kids away from people of only one skin color? You yourself just said that it's not skin color.
BTW, I've been to the 8th Ward in Houston. Had some great BBQ there, and wasn't jumped, mugged, robbed, beaten threatened, or even looked at funny. I was welcomed, seated, and fed, all with a smile.
But according to you, that's simply not possible, is it?
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Yes, trailer-park trash act the same way. So do Mexis. Its the culture of the left side of the bell-curve. But some groups end up on the wrong side of humanity, more than others.
What's a "Mexi"? Is that a generic term you apply to anyone of Latino/Hispanic ancestry? Isn't your wife Latino? Your daughter? What are you saying about them?
"I have no real clue of what you're speaking." - AwRaptor.
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Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
This is unquestionably true.
I don't argue against this, nor seek to say that it is an outdated ideology that doesn't meet the needs of a 21st century society.
Instead, I simply do 2 things.
One is post the musings of another person.
The second, ask you to disprove those ideas.
Let me give you some boundaries, however. Prove them (being the entirety of the article and its views) wrong (NOT in a moralistic point of view).
You want to say these ideas are wrong, go for it. But PROVE it using the scientific method.
This is not simply a moral question. In fact, for too long it has been framed as such.
Instead, I would argue, it is a scientific, survivalist question.
Take it point by point.
First prove they are rigth. The buden of proof is always on the person making the claim, not the other way around.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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