Sarah Michelle Gellar ’felt degraded’ After Sex Scenes
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SMG should try ACTING! And yes, I do think she can act. 
"Actors are whores" - Laurence Olivier.
You see, if an actor finds acting "degrading" they shouldn't do it. A "sex scene" is still acting. Some might argue it's absolutely no different than any other scene. I noticed that American actors refuse nudity all the time while British actors will drop thier pants instantly... because they are whores.
I mean actors. 
On a side note - what the hell is SMG on about? She felt degraded? By sex? Wha?
Some issues I can only guess at. She's weird.
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on a side note:
I once heard Joss say in a commentary that all the time after Alyson Hannigan (Willow) was doing a scene where Willow was sad or upset and crying, all the people on set just felt like going up to her to hug and console her. when he did he was met by a grinnig Aly saying: "what's up? it's called _acting_.".
this thread made me think about this. I think that's what it's all about, actors have to act not try to be their character. it doesn't work like that. they can do superficial stuff or silly stuff or whatever without acting but they will kill themselves if they do the serious stuff in the same way.
maybe that's the problem here or it's just something weird about someone confusing consensual rough sex with rape. I think the scenes are very well done. feels real and sexy and about the way it's supposed to. like fun that's leaving a bad taste in your mouth. sexy but not healthy because Buffy didn't love Spike and wasn't happy about sleeping with another vamp, especially a soulless one.
what I think of as bad in this context is the 'rough sex' equals 'unnatural sex' theme it tries to create. it was unnatural because Buffy felt like she shouldn't do it not because they liked to play it rough. they obviously both like to fight and they can take it being a vamp and a slayer, both healing very quickly. and they never really fought to kill or even seriously harm each other or else they would have at one point or another. slaying makes her horny said Faith, so fighting is a pretty natural foreplay for slayers. it's no sign of Buffy being bad or evil or having come back wrong if she likes to sleep with Spike for the fun of it. she should have been more honest to herself and to Spike, though. always saying 'no' but meaning 'yes' is undermining what all females on earth are fighting for: being taken seriously.
and having some bruises after a good night of sex is nothing bad even if you're not a slayer ;o)
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there are a few different schools of acting...
English style acting involves creating a character from the outside in, which does make it easier to separate oneself as an actor from the character being played, but can occasionally lead to a "stiff" performance.
American style acting is from the inside out, thus blurring the line between actor and character (method acting).
Both schools are perfectly legitimate and can certainly be combined to varying degrees. (and i'm sure there are other comepletely different schools out there somewhere, but these seem to be the ones that apply in this discussion.) So, please, don't criticize her for using a different method than Sir Laurence Olivier.
(there are a few different versions of this story about Dustin Hoffman and Olivier working on "Marathon Man," but the gist is the same (from an interview w/James Marsters): "The greatest example of this is Sir Lawrence Olivier, who was a great stage actor, one of the best, obviously. But on film? Not so great. You can see the man acting. You can see the strings being pulled on the puppet. There’s a great story about Dustin Hoffman staying up all night when he was preparing to do the teeth-drilling scene in Marathon Man. Lawrence Olivier looks at him and Hoffman’s eyes are all bloodshot and baggy and Olivier says, “My dear boy, why don’t you try acting?” My response to that is, “Larry. Look at the dailies ‘cause Dustin is kicking your ass!”"-- http://www.buffy-vs-angel.com/news/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1076
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another: http://www.stupidlyhappy.com/archives/000482.html )
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Wow, you're so on there Liz. And I love that quote.
Though I might argue Dustin over Larry in the acting department.
However I was refering to the English attitude toward acting as opossed to the American one.
btw... I remember seeing a short interview with Spike and he had spoken about SMG talking to him saying something like;"I won't be 'friends' with you. It's nothing personal..."
Seems to be relevant to this discussion?
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but the attitude toward acting is part and parcel to the style of acting -- With the Engish Style the actor separates him/herself from the character and anything that charater says/does/has done to them is compartmentalized and separated from the actor.
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I remember seeing a short interview with Spike and he had spoken about SMG talking to him saying something like;"I won't be 'friends' with you. It's nothing personal..."
SMG said that to James Marsters or Buffy to Spike?... (the characters or the actors -- there's that fine line again)
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I just watched an E! thing about SMG's wedding to Freddy Prinze, Jr. She did do interviews to discuss her Vera Wang dress. It made me wonder why she won't so interviews on the DVDs. But whatever. Because I am a fan, and I do love her as an actress, and it's just so diheartening to admire someone so much who doesn't really care that you admire them.
Anyway, Freddy said something on the special that really irritated me. He said, despite the fact that her TV career's been good to her, "Sarah's too good for TV."
Good grief. Although Harvard Man was good, it was not better than Buffy. And we all know about Scooby Doo.
I appreciate that he thinks highly of his wife, but it would be nice if he thought highly of her work, too.
"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."
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Ah. I see Liz. But I think I mean that the English Acting Culture in general sees actors as... well, unholy. *chuckle*, you know I gotta wonder if it's still English law to forbid burying an actor on holy ground. 
If you see what I mean. Acting is art... art requires bravory. SMG had better get some unless she wants to end her acting career with the words "it felt icky". 
lol!
And Liz - it was an interview with James M. taken about 3 years ago (?). He nervously mentioned this in the context of the 6th season (6th is the Spike/Buffster relationaship right?). Seems SMG kept James at arms length. Not only that, she talked to him about it. When I heard it I rolled my eyes rather loudly. It might have been then where I noticed SMG is high maintenance! lol!
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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
Ah. I see Liz.
If you see what I mean. Acting is art... art requires bravory. SMG had better get some unless she wants to end her acting career with the words "it felt icky".
And Liz - it was an interview with James M. taken about 3 years ago (?). He nervously mentioned this in the context of the 6th season (6th is the Spike/Buffster relationaship right?). Seems SMG kept James at arms length. Not only that, she talked to him about it. When I heard it I rolled my eyes rather loudly. It might have been then where I noticed SMG is high maintenance! lol!
Who in their right mind would keep Mr. James Marsters at arm length? He's hot, he's funny, he can sing, he can act....why would you not want to embelish in every single moment you had with him?
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I recall something similar, but James' attitude was fairly different from what you're saying. He was talking about the fact that SMG was very upfront with him early in their professional relationship about the fact that she didn't really hang out with the Buffy folks - was, in fact pretty strict about keeping professional and personal lives separate. And James' response was pretty much "that's cool - me too." And he said they got along swimmingly after that.
And, for what it's worth, it's always been my impression that SMG is very greatful to her fans, but is just a more reserved person than many Hollywood people. She seems very focused on the aspects of acting as a profession, and not so much with the fame-building parts of it. And if a man is a good actor, and very reserved & private, people say "oh, how interesting," but if a woman is the same way, people start calling her names. Because god forbid actors be able to treat their job like a job.
Although I will say that I think Freddie is a walking PR disaster, with the constant saying of well-intentioned but poorly thought-out things.
And am I the only person who thought that Joss' comment about 7th year TV actresses, while tongue in cheek, might just as well have been prompted by the behavior of CC? SMG wasn't his only cranky 7th year actress that year...
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^^^ Zelda, your recollection strikes me as better than mine. I think your version is pretty close to the actual truth of the interview and what SMG ment (as well as Jamie M.).
Howdyrockerbaby1 also has laser sharp insight there I'd assume.
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Zelda wrote: And am I the only person who thought that Joss' comment about 7th year TV actresses, while tongue in cheek, might just as well have been prompted by the behavior of CC? SMG wasn't his only cranky 7th year actress that year...
CC? Not sure what you're talking about here... though I feel I'm getting waaay outside my Buffy knowledge. I like the shows but really don't pay attention to hype, though often it permiates the mediascape - hence my seeing that James interview.
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