Buffy Bad: So say parents.
POSTED BY: Novagrass
UPDATED: Saturday, September 7, 2002 18:06
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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Which, speaking as a non-Christian with a lot of respect for serious Christianity, I find pretty sad.
You have no idea how happy that statement made me. You made my day! It's so nice to read statements like that, rather than the usual bashing that usually happens.
But back on the subject.
It appears to me that the PTC holds more conservative views on what good TV is. I don't mind their opinion, I just wish they would not try to take shows they don't like off the air. Truly, if they don't like a show, why not just ignore it? I'm sure a lot of people ignored the show, "My Mother the Car", and look, it's off TV!
By focusing only on a shows faults, you sometimes cause people to watch just for the novelty of the 'bad' things. Some children are no different... but I have to respect the opinion of the PTC. Even if I don't agree with their idea of Buffy :D
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I strongly suspect this has much to do with the invasion of the 2000 - 2100 formerly family hour with much more adult scenes.
Now you have to filter every TV show and watch it with your kids. No even the history channel is safe any more.
Jeff
Who wonders about TVs effect on kids when I'm told 1 in 12 children have sex at age 12, or earlier.
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Quote:"My Mother the Car" has been canceled???? No!!!!
Originally posted by Lainie:
It appears to me that the PTC holds more conservative views on what good TV is. I don't mind their opinion, I just wish they would not try to take shows they don't like off the air. Truly, if they don't like a show, why not just ignore it? I'm sure a lot of people ignored the show, "My Mother the Car", and look, it's off TV!
Quote:In fact, people who like graphic sex and violence often refer to sites like parentstv.org to help then find the "good stuff".
By focusing only on a shows faults, you sometimes cause people to watch just for the novelty of the 'bad' things.
Quote:Well, I'm perfectly willing to concede people their right to share information about shows they don't watch their kids to watch. But that's not what parentstv.org is about. As I pointed out earlier, they actually withhold some information that might serve that purpose. Any other goals are clearler secondary to their main goal: getting content they don't like off the air.
but I have to respect the opinion of the PTC. Even if I don't agree with their idea of Buffy :D
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Quote:Well, yeah, I don't suppose wanting "mature" content programmed later in the evening is unreasonable. Which Parents TV loves to make noise about. But it's hard to take their advocacy of the Family Hour seriously when their most stident criticisms are aimed at The Shield -- which is on at 10.
Originally posted by TinyTimm:
I strongly suspect this has much to do with the invasion of the 2000 - 2100 formerly family hour with much more adult scenes.
Now you have to filter every TV show and watch it with your kids. No even the history channel is safe any more.
Jeff
Who wonders about TVs effect on kids when I'm told 1 in 12 children have sex at age 12, or earlier.
But when most kids have their own TVs, or even VCRs, it's difficult to see how much good the Family Hour does. More effective is taking the set out of the bedroom and actually watching stuff with your kids. (Which strikes me as a good idea in any case -- how's a kid supposed to develp if the idiot box is allowed to soak up all his or her rec time?) And then there's the V Chip. Which would seem to be the perfect parental control tool, but which few parents show any interest in using.
I say again, Parents TV is not about parental control, it's about censorship, pure and simple. They don't want to control what their own kids watch , they want to dictate what everybody watches.
Which is appalling and hypocritical. But then again, if there were nothing on by the bland pablum Parents TV wants us to watch, people would get out more. It'd be a boon to bowling alleys!
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Here's a item from TV Guide:
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Family-friendly watchdog group Parents Television Council has named [Buffy] the worst show in primetime for its graphic violence, sex, and occult themes. CSI and Friends were also cited among the top 10 worst offenders, with Jennifer Aniston's Rachel character dubbed a bad role model for being an unmarried mother. What year is it people? 1982?
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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Here's a item from TV Guide:Quote:
Family-friendly watchdog group Parents Television Council has named [Buffy] the worst show in primetime for its graphic violence, sex, and occult themes. CSI and Friends were also cited among the top 10 worst offenders, with Jennifer Aniston's Rachel character dubbed a bad role model for being an unmarried mother. What year is it people? 1982?
heh heh Well, I'm glad someone in the TV industry has some sense.
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
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Hey! 1982? That was the year I was born damn it! They better not be bad mouthing '82!!
Phil
"I'm not ashamed. It's the computer age. Nerds are in. They're still in, right?" -Willow
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Originally posted by Lainie:Quote:
Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Which, speaking as a non-Christian with a lot of respect for serious Christianity, I find pretty sad.
You have no idea how happy that statement made me. You made my day! It's so nice to read statements like that, rather than the usual bashing that usually happens.
After spending a bit of time thinking about it, I have to say something about this point. There's a good reason so many people react negatively to the word "Christian". Its most common use is as a banner for bigoted, intolerant, ignorant people. These are people who want to dictate what other people do, see, and read -- even down to content of science and history texts. They literally believe the world revolves around them, and that anybody who disagrees with them is condemned eternally.
There's another class of people, much less visible, but which I have had the good fortune to know. For them, "Christian" is their label for their most closely-held beliefs, which involve compassion, tolerance, and respect for the varieties of human experience.
It's presumptuous of this non-Christian to pass judgment, but I have little doubt as to which of these two groups that carpenter guy would be more comfortable with.
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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Here's a item from TV Guide:Quote:
Family-friendly watchdog group Parents Television Council has named [Buffy] the worst show in primetime for its graphic violence, sex, and occult themes. CSI and Friends were also cited among the top 10 worst offenders, with Jennifer Aniston's Rachel character dubbed a bad role model for being an unmarried mother. What year is it people? 1982?
and what year did the whole Dan Quayle/Murphy Brown thing happen? Was that 92? Maybe it's some sort of cycle... Every 10 years or so, someone starts bitching about unwed mothers.
As for the Christians thing, I have a lot of respect for Christians. But there are an awful lot of people who call themselves that who are not "Christ-like", which is what Christian is supposed to mean. Myself, I am Pagan, but I studied many different religions before I came to that decision. I like the idea of Christianity, and Jesus seemed to be a guy I could definitely get behind. But in my life I have only ever met 1 Christian that I felt was truly following the word of the bible. All of the others that I met have not. So I typically do puff up at the word "Christian", because so far, I've had very few good experiences with them.
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