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I will have a listen to that Aerosmith song again
You can have microtonal instruments but they are very. very different, like a guitar with new frets or some type of exotic piano dulcimer thing with notes different to Western music
another thing Western music did is put everything slightly out of tune so the mathematics of the notes would add up and be more 'in tune' when you played different notes and harmony and scales
true microtonal stuff sounds almost really alien weird exotic to alien ears or almost 'wrong' or the chords and harmony very strange, even more unique than Spanish or Jewish or Romania or Ukraine or Hungary music, there are notes in micrtone music that are truly exotic like the Indian Arab stuff. They have a truly different set of scale and harmony, in fact sometimes they sound non-harmonic even clashing according to how a Western ear would hear Microtones in Eastern, Microtones are very different jumps, they used to exist in the West but they now play an integral role in Eastern music, intervals smaller than a semitone or half-tone these would sound very alien 'exotic', and possibly a little out of tune to a Western ear, you might hear the microtone on a Sarangi, the Indian Sitar, or Asian flute, the Chinese language itself has a lot of pitch bending when speaking which may have also influenced their music instruments that spread across Asia, the Indians still keep their ancient system of 'Ragas' etc a completely separate system to analyze music outside of Western music theory
Tones & Semitones
JustinGuitar
this guy got obsessed with building a perfect newly tuned scale and did it with 'microtones'
different harmonics
MicroTone Guitars
true Microtonal Arab Indian music sounds very 'weird' to the Western ear, totally different Intervals, the West used to use Microtone but abandoned it all to put the concert and stage in perfect mathematical harmony according to Western theory
but you do have 'out there' Western guys experimenting with this microtone stuff
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yeah maybe I will try listen to Aerosmith Boogie Man again but I dont think its microtone, it is however strange sounding maybe for reasons on previous page
What are microtones, and why are they not an everyday part of classical music?
https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/music-theory/what-are-microto
nes/
We explore the history and mysteries of the ‘notes in between the notes’.
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But what about the notes in between these notes? If we hummed a ‘glissando’, or ‘slide’ between these notes, what would those notes be called?
Those are microtones. But what makes them different, and why are they not a standard part of the music we hear on a daily basis?
'They are the notes in between the notes.'
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The most useful dictionary definition of microtone that we’ve found is in the in The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians, which describes it as “any musical interval or difference of pitch distinctly smaller than a semitone”, going on to give examples of divisions of the octave into more than 12 parts, and musics of ancient Greece and beyond.
Microtonal music is therefore music written to include microtones as well, or instead, of standard tones and semitones.
In the glossary on his Rest Is Noise website, music critic Alex Ross defines microtonal music as “music that uses intervals smaller than the semitone, or uses a tuning system other than the equal-tempered system that has been standard in Western music for the last couple of centuries.”
They have the potential to sound like ‘out of tune’ notes to ears used to Western music, especially when heard alongside the conventional notes of the piano keyboard.
the terms
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Where does the term microtone originate?
Confusingly, quarter tone was – and still is at times – used as shorthand to refer to any note smaller than a semitone, but it’s not really specific enough.
The Irish violinist, singer, writer, and authority on Indian music, Maud MacCarthy, was one of the turn-of-the-century thinkers who needed a way to expand music vocabulary to correctly categorise the notes with tiny intervals between them heard in the music she was exposed to. In Indian classical music the word ‘shruti’ defines a microtonal note that sits outside the pitches heard in standard Western music, and in around 1912 MacCarthy landed on using the term ‘microtone’ to translate the concept into English language.
Before that, as early as 1895, Mexican composer Julián Carrillo, had used the more specific terms ‘microtone’ and ‘microtonality’ when referring to music using notes outside the standard 12-note scale.
And other composers have come up with definitions for the notes in between the notes, including the Russian composer Ivan Wyschnegradsky, who used the term ‘ultra-chromatic’ to refer to any intervals smaller than a semitone, and ‘infra-chromatic’ for intervals that are larger than a semitone.
Theorist Marek Žabka liked to use ‘subchromatic’ while American composer Ivor Darreg has opted for ‘xenharmonic’ to refer to his system of scales using notes outside the standard notes of the modern piano.
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real Microtonal Intervals sound very unique
Levi McClain
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Why big music firms may sign AI deals: Fmr. Sony exec. explains
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/why-big-music-firms-may-120003660.html
Abba’s Bjorn Ulvaeus is using AI to write new musical
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/abbas-bjorn-ulvaeus-is-using-ai-to-write-
new-musical/
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Ancient Vibrations: The Neapolitan Minor Scale & Its Modes
https://stringsofrage.com/scales-modes/exotic-scales-modes/neapolitan-
minor-scale/
Parent Scale: F Neapolitan Minor
Mode#2: Gb Lydian #6
Mode#3: Ab Mixolydian Augmented
Mode#4: Bb Hungarian Gypsy
Mode#5: C Locrian Dominant
Mode#6: Db Ionian #2
Mode#7: E Ultralocrian bb3
"Lydian Harmonic Major"
https://ianring.com/musictheory/scales/2517
very strange Neapolitan music idea with 6ths and inversion use
in the key of C major and C minor the Neapolitan sixth would be a D flat chord in its 1st inversion
popularity with 17th and 18th century composers in Naples, the Neapolitan 6th -French, German and Italian 6th chords.
Neapolitan Scales
https://pianoscales.org/neapolitan.html
The Neapolitan Scale originates from the city of Naples and opera composers during the 18th century such as Domenico Scarlatti and Domenico Cimarosa.
There are both a Minor and a Major Neapolitan Scale. The Minor Neapolitan can be seen as a Harmonic Minor with a flattened second note, whereas the Major Neapolitan can be seen as a Melodic Minor with a flattened second note. These scales are connected to the Neapolitan sixth chord, which has a flattened second.
a Major-seven but the scale is minor
E, F, G, A, B, C, D#, E
and it has a flat third but the name is Major
G, Ab, Bb, C, D, E, F#, G
a very strange thing to call it 'Major' its more like a Dorian or Indonesia Assyrian or maybe a neutral scale or Phrygian sharp 6 and sharp 7...not sure if Major suits but the name has stuck
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Neopolitan Minor
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Neopolitan Major
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‘Unlock’ The MINOR Modes On Bass
Luke bass video channel
however its the modes linked to Major key and natural minor scale, also known as the Aeolian mode, he doesn't talk about the exotic stuff like Melodic Minor and Harmonic Minor
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Musical Greek Modes
http://www.sound-physics.com/Music-Physics/Musical-Scales/Greek-Modes/
Plato banned the Lydian
Locrian scale is considered unsettling
neapolitan
problem with minor
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Geographical Chords described
"Neapolitan" Chord
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