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How Can I Prove I am Not a Racist?

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WULFENSTAR

Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:25 PM

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

RIVERLOVE

Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:12 PM

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Originally posted by Malachite:
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
70% of black births are illegitimate, no father taking responsibility. Black leaders rarely dare acknowledge or condemn that race's national disgrace. Typical scenario is single working or welfare mamas with 5 kids from 4 different "sperm daddies". Only way these doomed-to-fail kids know who their daddy is if their mama tells them. And none of them were ever slaves. White Liberals do their little dance of guilt and make excuse after after excuse for Blacks. Our entire society has been dragged down because of pc correctness white-washing despicable behavior.

Even if your statements were true, which I doubt (70% seems a bit high, and your "typical scenario" may not be so typical if by typical you mean "a majority"), you are still pointing to significant environmental deprivation (lack of stable family, lack of parental supervision, lack of proper nutrition, a single parent with low education having limited education themselves and limited financial resources to help their children succeed academically, an emphasis on survival in dangerous neighborhoods as a priority rather than academic success, idealization of the gang lifestyle, stigmatization of blacks who actually do have academic success in these scenarios by their own peers, lack of quality educational institutions in impoverished neighborhoods, etc) that could explain lower academic achievement and lower IQ scores rather than some innate genetic deficiency that dictates that blacks have less innate intelligence than whites. I would argue that whites experiencing similar environmental pressures would also perform worse than average as well.

To sum: you have pointed out environmental deficiencies that continue to contribute to poor academic success. We can choose to let this pattern continue, or we can figure out how to change the environment. Ideally, this comes from within the black community itself (as you mentioned, black leaders calling attention to the problems and then, hopefully proposing solutions), but chances are, it is going to need outside funding and outside resources as well. I say it needs to be spearheaded by blacks because some may have mistrust of some major overhaul spearheaded by whites.

Just go to Google and you'll see many sites that have info on the illegitimacy numbers for all races. The 70% number is accurate. As to 5 kids being "typical", that's just some hyperbole, but as you say, doesn't explain or excuse the social and economic havoc that befalls these fatherless kids.

MALACHITE

Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:06 PM

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
Just go to Google and you'll see many sites that have info on the illegitimacy numbers for all races. The 70% number is accurate.

Wow, I was skeptical of the 70% number, but I can't find anything that disputes this. The best link I found supporting the number was http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/greenbook2003/AppendixM.pdf

That is just sad. I figured the rate was high, but I had no idea it was that high...

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:40 PM

I would argue its higher than that, especially in urban areas. But that the rates in non-urban areas compensate.

Its a cultural thing.

Much like how many hispanics feel that men "gift" women with children, black women feel they have some "power" if they have a kid.

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

NIKI2

Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:57 PM

I love it when stuff like that is used as an argument for anything. It says nothing about the actual situtatio-- to whom birth control is available/affordable--lack of education, or society's affect on a population. It's real credible...NOT!

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But for may poor women, obtaining this control to plan their families remains out of reach. Women in developing countries experience 51 million unintended pregnancies each year because of lack of contraception. Giving women access to modern contraception and family planning also helps to boost economic growth while reducing high birth rates so strongly linked with endemic poverty, poor education, and high numbers of maternal and infant deaths. Improving girls’ education, giving women equal economic opportunities, and lifting families out of poverty are also important for lowering birth rates.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of __________________, code name ‘Nike”,
signing off

MALACHITE

Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:12 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
I love it when stuff like that is used as an argument for anything.

Niki -- I wasn't aware the 70% number was being used as an argument for anything except perhaps, that it is another indicator of environmental inequalities which possibly could contribute to lower performance on IQ testing. Are you objecting to the number for some other reason? Am I inadvertantly using this number to say something else?

Of course, it is always relevant to ask why the statistic is so high (and your quotation about limited access to healthcare and poverty contributing to the problem seems relevant to me).

ETA: Oh, I see that maybe you were responding to Wulf's comment of, "It's a cultural thing"

KANEMAN

Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:16 PM

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Originally posted by Malachite:
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
Just go to Google and you'll see many sites that have info on the illegitimacy numbers for all races. The 70% number is accurate.

Wow, I was skeptical of the 70% number, but I can't find anything that disputes this. The best link I found supporting the number was http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/greenbook2003/AppendixM.pdf

That is just sad. I figured the rate was high, but I had no idea it was that high...

Of course that number is accurate. Go back and read about how blacks cannot pass up instant gratification. It is the root of all their problems. From illegitimate births, crime, and drug use. They have an inability to form a just culture because they have not evolved the ability to pass up instant gratification.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:17 PM

I would argue that the access to "healthcare",in this case meaning abortions, is higher and easier in urban areas.

However, again, I will state that the high illigitamcy rate is a simple matter of culture.

Who creates a culture, who influences a culture, how does a culture influence an individual?

Those are the questions you should ask.

Also, who created the idealogy of illigitmacy as being a "good" thing?

Find the answers to those questions and you will start to see the truth. You will start to see how everything ties together, and why.

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

KANEMAN

Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:20 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
I love it when stuff like that is used as an argument for anything. It says nothing about the actual situtatio-- to whom birth control is available/affordable--lack of education, or society's affect on a population. It's real credible...NOT!
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But for may poor women, obtaining this control to plan their families remains out of reach. Women in developing countries experience 51 million unintended pregnancies each year because of lack of contraception. Giving women access to modern contraception and family planning also helps to boost economic growth while reducing high birth rates so strongly linked with endemic poverty, poor education, and high numbers of maternal and infant deaths. Improving girls’ education, giving women equal economic opportunities, and lifting families out of poverty are also important for lowering birth rates.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of __________________, code name ‘Nike”,
signing off

All blacks in this country can get contraception. You can't believe that they have all those little bastards because they can't get condoms. Do you?

MALACHITE

Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:22 PM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
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Originally posted by Malachite:
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
Just go to Google and you'll see many sites that have info on the illegitimacy numbers for all races. The 70% number is accurate.

Wow, I was skeptical of the 70% number, but I can't find anything that disputes this. The best link I found supporting the number was http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/greenbook2003/AppendixM.pdf

That is just sad. I figured the rate was high, but I had no idea it was that high...

Of course that number is accurate. Go back and read about how blacks cannot pass up instant gratification. It is the root of all their problems. From illegitimate births, crime, and drug use. They have an inability to form a just culture because they have not evolved the ability to pass instant gratification.

Hmmm, doesn't that generalization sound just a bit racist?

(Unless you are a sociology expert who has extensively studied minorities and/or you have some validated, generally recognized body of evidence that backs that generalization up).

I would argue that we are all moving towards a need/demand/expectation for instant gratification...