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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:52 PM

But both of you could be accommodated at the same time. So, you're making them wait IMO for no reason.

What if we take the handicapped portion of the equation away? There's a road with 3 lanes. The far left lane is a left turn or go straight lane that gets a green arrow. There's no one at the intersection when you approach. It's midmorning on a Monday. There's very little traffic as everyone else is at work. You're going straight. Don't need to turn or do anything else just go straight for miles and miles. Is it rude to take the left lane just for fun?

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:25 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
But both of you could be accommodated at the same time. So, you're making them wait IMO for no reason.

What if we take the handicapped portion of the equation away? There's a road with 3 lanes. The far left lane is a left turn or go straight lane that gets a green arrow. There's no one at the intersection when you approach. It's midmorning on a Monday. There's very little traffic as everyone else is at work. You're going straight. Don't need to turn or do anything else just go straight for miles and miles. Is it rude to take the left lane just for fun?



Your analogy doesn't work very well. The person going straight never impedes the person turning left. Only the left turn person impedes the straight.

So let me put it in what doesn't sound like great terms. Being handicap doesn't mean you never have to wait. It just means you don't have to wait as much. Accomodations are made so that handicapped people have the same access as anyone else. It doesn't mean they have better access. "Same" access means having to wait sometimes.

We have two bathrooms at work, one with 1 regular stall and a handicapped (out of the way, little use bathroom), the other with 2 regular, 1 handicapped (main bathroom). There are times when there is a line at the main bathroom, even using the three. Why should one stall sit open just because there's a chance that a handicapped person might need to use it at some point? It's illogical and inefficient, if you ask me.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:34 PM

The traffic example is if the light is red. I missed that part. When the little green arrow comes up the person going straight will just sit and wait for it to turn green to go straight.

For the bathroom I'm saying when it's totally empty. No line what so ever. No one in the bathroom. You walk in and have your choice of any stall. Taking the handicap stall is to handicapped people as barricading the door is to everyone else. You're telling me you wouldn't find it rude if you got to the door and it was barricaded by someone who wanted the whole place to themselves?

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:18 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
The traffic example is if the light is red. I missed that part. When the little green arrow comes up the person going straight will just sit and wait for it to turn green to go straight.



Is there ever that situation? In CA, there is never a lane with an arrow that isn't a fully designated turn lane...no straight.

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For the bathroom I'm saying when it's totally empty. No line what so ever. No one in the bathroom. You walk in and have your choice of any stall. Taking the handicap stall is to handicapped people as barricading the door is to everyone else. You're telling me you wouldn't find it rude if you got to the door and it was barricaded by someone who wanted the whole place to themselves?



Your scenario is the same as if it's just a bathroom without stalls. ;) If the door is locked, I wait. If the door locks and there are multiple stalls and I know it, I pretty sure I don't want to go in there anyway and figure it's a toxic environment. :D Or I would go ask the if maintenance is being done, etc.

The issue is same access for me. I have to wait sometimes (and often time it's a LONG line...that doesn't happen to men nearly as often) so a handicapped person having to wait a minute or two doesn't strike me as rude.

I'm pretty much guessing we're not going to agree. I don't feel bad about it, kind of like you don't feel bad about opening the door for people. You might want to smack me upside the head for the bathroom thing, I might smack you for the other. So we're even.

BTW, you may have ruined the small of the back thing for me. Grrrr.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by RugBug:
I'm pretty much guessing we're not going to agree. I don't feel bad about it, kind of like you don't feel bad about opening the door for people. You might want to smack me upside the head for the bathroom thing, I might smack you for the other. So we're even.


Yeah. Agree to disagree? I'll go on thinking I'm right. You go on thinking you're wrong. We'll call it even.

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Originally posted by RugBug:
BTW, you may have ruined the small of the back thing for me. Grrrr.


Even if he does wash his hands if he doesn't use a paper towel to open the door it's pretty much just as bad as if he didn't wash. Mwuahahahahaha

I've actually wondered why there aren't more handicap door type buttons on bathroom doors. That would eliminate the whole gross door handle thing. Just put a little button down on the floor that you kick (to avoid a door handle type situation with the button) and we're all good.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:

I've actually wondered why there aren't more handicap door type buttons on bathroom doors. That would eliminate the whole gross door handle thing. Just put a little button down on the floor that you kick (to avoid a door handle type situation with the button) and we're all good.




Unless you're FLT and then you'd be mad at the lazies that used the button instead of the handle. ;)

There are some serious nasties that can be picke up anywhere...so I figure what doesn't kill me makes me stronger. It's actually proven that exposure to bacteria, etc builds a better immune system. Anti-bacterial products are going to e the death of us.

I don't really want to know about the particular nasties...but I don't spend too much time dwelling on them.





















btw...I'm right

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by RugBug:
btw...I'm right


That was not part of the agreement.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:46 PM

omg they have video of the DJ's first date on their site. Now I can say I wouldn't go on one of these dates. No way do I want the added pressure of being on youtube. Jeez.



I would not complain about that hair. She's plenty cute. Those other DJs are jerks telling her she needs a new haircut.

She does say some negative stuff about herself but I wouldn't be kicking her out the door because of it. She just seems a little nervous. It's a first date that's perfectly understandable. Those other DJs need to get off her case IMO.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:17 PM

Ohhh...he gives me the creeps. So glad she didn't go to his apartment. I don't have sound,so I can't hear what's going on, but 1) he's way too old for her and 2)he's got that creeper look in his eyes. Me no likey.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:28 PM

Ok so on the hot crazy scale we're saying he drifts below the Mendoza line?? ( sorry it's a HIMYM joke so some of you may not get it)

Zeek my response was posited on the whole usual 10-15 minute line waiting to use the ladies room that normally exists( again you men and your double the number of bathroom spots unfairness) so I think most people I know in wheelchairs( and I know a correspondingly large amount being special ed teacher and all) are fine waiting their turn:)

Ok is the dating pool really getting that bad??? I don't really have a base for comparison since I really only dated a lot in college and high school and that's been a while ( and no I'm not discussing how long a while)

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