I predict John Carter will be the new Avatar!
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 5, 2010 21:10
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Actually... Yeah.
And I'm not overly fond of Tarzan and Jane, either. The mentality towards women in some of these older fictional franchises is an unfortunate remnant of other times. If they want women to like these things, then they ought to try to update them. But they don't, so they're turning away 50% of their potential consumer base. Sure, it's their choice, and you guys are free to consume whatever media you want to, but don't expect women to like demeaning portrayals of their gender unless it's parody.
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Did you hate Return of the Jedi for Princess Leia's Deejah Thoris-like outfit?
Or was it the Ewoks???
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
demeaning portrayals of their gender
WHAT???
Strong, beautiful & smart???
I guess I should be happy that Kirk was weak, ugly & dumb then.
And that he didn't get his shirt torn off him in lots of episodes.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Yes, because relying on a male to fight all their battles is such a sign of strength.
Smarts I'll give you, maybe, but that's demeaning to men too, to have it depicted that all these smart women are manipulating the dumb men.
But then, if they're NOT manipulating the men, then the women are too stupid to stay out of trouble and again need the men to save them. There's no winning. No equality for EITHER side, no matter which way you slice it. It's very unfair for both.
And there are unfortunate implications if the woman is expected to fall in love with the guy and reward him with sex in return for his help.
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Okay. You win. Fantasy movies are worthless.
Stardust, Somewhere In Time, Star Wars, Lord Of The Rings-
any movie that show differences between the sexes strengths & weaknesses is garbage.
No, make that ALL movies.
Sorry Byte, I'm a relic. A brutish fossil, symbolic of a decayed era gratefully forgotten.
The laughing Chrisisall
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And strawmanning the opposition is a perfectly reasonable way to dismiss valid complaints.
No, fantasy and sci-fi are NOT worthless, but there ARE some stereotypes that could stand subversion. Scantily clad damsels in distress are one of them. It hurts and demeans the medium, because it makes its detractors have a harder time taking it seriously. It comes across as fetish fuel and using sex to sell, and distracts from the deeper themes that the medium is capable of.
OK, seriously, Chris. I know you're just trying to get my goat, and I actually didn't want to threadjack here and was going to leave you guys to enjoy in peace, because clearly there are fans here. I've tried to bow out once, and I'm going to do so again.
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Damsel in distress!
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Quote:Sex DOES sell!! Are there less than sexy peeps in most big movies? Princess Leia was covered & modest until Jedi, Megan Fox is WHY those idiot Transformer movies are blockbusters...
Originally posted by Bytemite:
fetish fuel and using sex to sell, and distracts from the deeper themes that the medium is capable of.
I'm sorry here, but men & women are just wired differently, it seems.
Hotgirls are WOW, whereas Hotguys are merely "cool, look at Hotboy. Yum."
Deeper themes are in the undercurrent of well made movies. The reality is that it gots to look good first & foremost to make back the millions, whatever else we get is extra.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
Damsel in distress!
Please, don't HELP me here, Kirk!!!!
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Oh! Do you play Mabinogi? Back when I had free space on my computer, I LOVED Maginogi. The battle system is less about your level, and more about how well you can anticipate your enemies and use your attacks in response. That, plus you can write and play your own music in game, and you can also get pets you can play as separately from your character.
Interesting - imma look into it.
Currently messing around with Luna Online, and I still have Flyff around, but they're both a little too repetative and grindy for me - I've never really found an MMO that much appeals to me, City of Villains is a classic example of why heros shouldn't write villain storylines... I do have an interesting Character there, but it pales after a while.
The closest I've gotten is maybe Eve-Online, but it's set up to appeal to, and tremendously (and deliberately) unbalanced in favor of the very worst of griefer/scammer/scum, which wouldn't be so horrible if they hadn't loaded the game mechanics to more or less hand folks to that type on a plate all but defenseless - it makes it too easy for em, and leaves little room for entertainment other than that since most folk with any sense don't pay good money to be some griefers bitch over and over cause the game mechanics render them a helpless target.
So I mostly play Freelancer Discovery instead, when I have the time to spare.
But if you wanna set up some FF-Fan action in Mabi, I might be down for it, but I keep odd hours, mind.
-F
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