Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicals

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DEWRASTLER

Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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(I love getting to use the word hence)

Hence your use of it, twice.

Well played.

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DEWRASTLER

Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by asarian:
I guess the biggest problem with the show was that it continually tried to take things into a new direction. And, as a result, it went nowhere at all. Shows like that usually end the way this one did: they end.

And there it is. I think you hit the nail on the head right there.

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PCCH7

Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:31 PM

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Originally posted by jameron4eva:
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Originally posted by Zeek:
Don't go calling people who don't like your show haters. I gave the show over a season's worth of a chance and it only had a couple decent episodes. Then it went right back to being mediocre. I'm not going to call you names for liking it.

Listen, i don't go around kalling people haters for nothing, i'm just saying, if you don't watch the character DEVELOPMENT, then you suck.

I shouldn't be taking the troll-bait, really; but I'll bite quick enough to say Zeek is entirely right, of course. On every count.

Personally, I took 'mediocre' as a kindness, even. Hate me for it, if you must. :)

Thomas Dekker's whiney acting stood out like a sore thumb, all throughout the show. Towards the end, there's was maybe like one episode where I was finally not annoyed with the twerp, and I could actually see him as a plausible future Resistance leader. Now, you can take that one brief instance of rising above mediocrity and call it "character development." Or you could be brave enough and admit that his overall performance was just dismal.

And then his mom. Don't get me started on her! Always angry, always sour, always unpleasant. Supposedly out of concern for John. It's a tale of woe. Very stirring. In the meantime she just succeeded to annoy.

Stephanie Jacobsen, as Jesse, was fair hot, I'll give her that. And that episode she killed Riley was one of her better ones. And then... they took her out of the loop.

And Summer, what can I say? She excelled in "Allison from Palmdale," painfully laying bare how her talents were wasted in this show. Instead they had her standing around, numb, for most of the time. And there's really only so much brilliance one can put into doing that.

Then there was bad scripting. Oh yeah, there was plenty of that. They host an entire chess tournament, yet they couldn't find any prop-guy with the wherewithal to actually place the chessboards properly; they want us to believe they built the most advanced A.I., yet when he 'forgets' something, apparently there was a fault on the harddrive (whereas every half-way decent home server across the world has some sort of RAID these days). Could go on for ever. Won't.

Either they gave us tech-talk only a 4th-grader would buy, or they went overboard the other way: John intenssely staring at Cameron's arm, diagnosing the problem as something "deeply internal." Why, thank you, Dr. Obvious, for that brilliant display of deductive reasoning! I'm sure Cameron could never have figured it out on her own. In fact, that whole stuff, with Cameron killing that bird and all, supposedly meaning to wax philosophical, failed miserably as a whole.

I guess the biggest problem with the show was that it continually tried to take things into a new direction. And, as a result, it went nowhere at all. Shows like that usually end the way this one did: they end.

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

Dekker/John´s whining does not go on throughout all of the show, he does whine a lot in season 1 but he´s just a kid wanting to have a normal life, in season 2 he starts to accept the fact that he´s not gonna have a normal life and he starts making decisions and I guess in season 3 we would´ve seen how he becomes the leader.. I would imagine that the whining was in the writing and not just something Dekker pulled out of the blue.. Imo he´s the best John Connor so far.

On Sarah, I agree.. She get´s tiring fast but that´s just the character, that´s how Sarah is.. I think Lena Headey did a good job though as a tough as nails chick..

I know a lot of people are annoyed by Jesse though and thought there was too much focus on her and that she ruined the show somewhat.. I kinda liked her, Reilly on the other hand.. Don´t like her very much, but that may just be down to my love for Cameron

I agree about Summer Glau, she´s the best thing about the show but you have to remember t

JAMERON4EVA

Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by pcch7:
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Originally posted by asarian:
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Originally posted by jameron4eva:
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Originally posted by Zeek:
Don't go calling people who don't like your show haters. I gave the show over a season's worth of a chance and it only had a couple decent episodes. Then it went right back to being mediocre. I'm not going to call you names for liking it.

Listen, i don't go around kalling people haters for nothing, i'm just saying, if you don't watch the character DEVELOPMENT, then you suck.

I shouldn't be taking the troll-bait, really; but I'll bite quick enough to say Zeek is entirely right, of course. On every count.

Personally, I took 'mediocre' as a kindness, even. Hate me for it, if you must. :)

Thomas Dekker's whiney acting stood out like a sore thumb, all throughout the show. Towards the end, there's was maybe like one episode where I was finally not annoyed with the twerp, and I could actually see him as a plausible future Resistance leader. Now, you can take that one brief instance of rising above mediocrity and call it "character development." Or you could be brave enough and admit that his overall performance was just dismal.

And then his mom. Don't get me started on her! Always angry, always sour, always unpleasant. Supposedly out of concern for John. It's a tale of woe. Very stirring. In the meantime she just succeeded to annoy.

Stephanie Jacobsen, as Jesse, was fair hot, I'll give her that. And that episode she killed Riley was one of her better ones. And then... they took her out of the loop.

And Summer, what can I say? She excelled in "Allison from Palmdale," painfully laying bare how her talents were wasted in this show. Instead they had her standing around, numb, for most of the time. And there's really only so much brilliance one can put into doing that.

Then there was bad scripting. Oh yeah, there was plenty of that. They host an entire chess tournament, yet they couldn't find any prop-guy with the wherewithal to actually place the chessboards properly; they want us to believe they built the most advanced A.I., yet when he 'forgets' something, apparently there was a fault on the harddrive (whereas every half-way decent home server across the world has some sort of RAID these days). Could go on for ever. Won't.

Either they gave us tech-talk only a 4th-grader would buy, or they went overboard the other way: John intenssely staring at Cameron's arm, diagnosing the problem as something "deeply internal." Why, thank you, Dr. Obvious, for that brilliant display of deductive reasoning! I'm sure Cameron could never have figured it out on her own. In fact, that whole stuff, with Cameron killing that bird and all, supposedly meaning to wax philosophical, failed miserably as a whole.

I guess the biggest problem with the show was that it continually tried to take things into a new direction. And, as a result, it went nowhere at all. Shows like that usually end the way this one did: they end.

--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

Dekker/John´s whining does not go on throughout all of the show, he does whine a lot in season 1 but he´s just a kid wanting to have a normal life, in season 2 he starts to accept the fact that he´s not gonna have a normal life and he starts making decisions and I guess in season 3 we would´ve seen how he becomes the leader.. I would imagine that the whining was in the writing and not just something Dekker pulled out of the blue.. Imo he´s the best John Connor so far.

On Sarah, I agree.. She get´s tiring fast but that´s just the character, that´s how Sarah is.. I think Lena Headey did a good job though as a tough as nails chick..

I know a lot of people are annoyed by Jesse though and thought there was too much focus on her and that she ruined the show somewhat.. I kinda liked her, Reilly on the other hand.. Don´t like her very much, but that may just be down to my love for Cameron

I agree about Summer Glau, she´s the best thing ab

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KWICKO

Friday, August 21, 2009 3:53 AM

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I guess the biggest problem with the show was that it continually tried to take things into a new direction. And, as a result, it went nowhere at all. Shows like that usually end the way this one did: they end.

Exactly. It's not that I *LIKE* that the show didn't do better or wasn't written better. I wish it HAD been better; I'd have loved to have had seven seasons of Summer...

What you said makes perfect sense, and that's exactly how I felt Veronica Mars went so horribly wrong at the end. In Season Three, they were suffering and were desperate for ratings, so they started casting about desperately, trying for ANY trick that would bring viewers. What they ended up with was a mishmash of a show that couldn't pick up and follow a story arc to any kind of logical conclusion. Where you had two seasons of tightly-written, well-crafted plot arcs and many self-contained mini-arcs, in Season Three we got a whole lot of "What the...? Well then what happened to...? And where's...? But what about...?"

I was sad to see V-Mars go, but at the end, I was kind of grateful, too.

Mike

KWICKO

Friday, August 21, 2009 3:58 AM

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Oh and to Kwico, I'LL NEVER QUIT THIS, IT WILL GO ON, AND AHLL BE BAACCCK!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, I count on it. I wouldn't respect you if you quit this easily. After all, we're Browncoats here - we've done the impossible, and quitting just isn't in our DNA. Got a li'l movie for our troubles, we did. That makes us mighty. :)

I get that you really love TSCC, and I can respect that. It's not my favorite show, but diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, eh. And if you give up on it, you'll lose any chance of ever getting more. I'd like to see SyFy pick it up, if they could afford it, because it's become a niche for "cult" programs that develop a distinct niche following, like the Stargate series. I'm not a fan of those, either, but I can understand why many are, and they've got a big, full, rich universe of stories to explore, and many seasons' worth of shows to do it in.

Mike

KWICKO

Friday, August 21, 2009 3:59 AM

Oh, and bear in mind that even if I reply with snark or smartassedness, I'm still bumping the TSCC threads back up to the top of the list! That has to help you out somewhat...

Mike

JAMERON4EVA

Monday, September 21, 2009 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Oh, and bear in mind that even if I reply with snark or smartassedness, I'm still bumping the TSCC threads back up to the top of the list! That has to help you out somewhat...

Mike

And i thank you for that. See people, me and Kwicko may disagree, but isn't that what a debate is all about.

AND FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, UNLESS I ACTUALLY CALL YOU A "HATER", I DON'T CONSIDER YOU ONE, SO GET OFF MY GORRAM ASS!!!!!!!

Signed,
Jameron4eva.

JAMERON4EVA

Sunday, October 4, 2009 6:37 PM

Kill the black Sqirrl!!!!!!!!!!

KWICKO

Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:33 PM

Bumping this one back to the top because I think Jameron might be right - Fox cancelled the wrong show! I didn't much care for TSCC, but objectively, it was better than Dollhouse. As much as I love Joss, I gave up on Dollhouse; I just couldn't take it any more.

I'd rather see TSCC on Fox's Friday night schedule, because while *I* didn't care much for it, I do think it's the better of the two shows - and it got consistently better ratings as well.

Mike

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