The 'Jihad' Rant: Prove Me Wrong (warning: might be offenisve)
POSTED BY: HiroStone
UPDATED: Sunday, December 28, 2025 08:00
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Originally posted by HiroStone:
We're all very lucky.
"I let no man drag me down so low as to make me hate him."
-by Booker T. Washington
-Hiro
We are all very fortunate indeedy. I agree.
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Originally posted by HiroStone:
The second quote was reiterating that as an American, he as so many rights that people living elsewhere do not have.
No offence but it would be more accurate to say "he has so many rights that people living many places elsewhere do not have"
The current reading makes it seem like you believe the US has more freedoms that everywhere else
We're pretty free here in Europe you know. In many ways we have more freedom than in the USA
No "Patriot Act" here
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:Quote:
Originally posted by HiroStone:
Well, look what we've accomplished in 200 years. It ain't pretty and there was alot of hardship, but in 200 years, America's come a long way from upstart 13 colonies.
-Hiro
Wash: It's grotesque...! Oh and there's something in a jar.
I don't know what kind of argument that is, but that sounds kinda like what everyone in America wants. "Well, I worked really hard on this, doesn't that mean something? Anything?" I say, "Well, running really really hard in place takes a lot of effort too. But have you really gone anywhere?" (And of course, I am vaguely refering to the mentality that many many people - not us, feel that they are entitled to something just b/c they have spend "lots of time" of it. Gosh! Show me the results. Where's the beef?!)
Look, I am not saying that we haven't gone anywhere either, but I am saying that spending a long long time doing something while spending lots of effort, sweating & presevering doesn't equate to a quality product nor does the sweating itself deserve any prize. From a purely meritocracy standpoint - only the result matters. Is it something of quality? Well, that is also in the eye of the beholder. What kind of cake I think might taste good isn't necessarily what you might like (or choose) to eat. See, you can almost always break down an argument into choices of Chocolate, Vanilla, or Peanut Butter & Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough with Pralies and Mocha Fudge swirl.
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Can't someone do something nice anymore? Faith in our fellow man or woman to do the right thing just because? I can't pay it forward expecting to get something in return? Give someone who needs it a couple of dollars out of my pocket for no other reason than charity?
Yes, a staple with people is getting something for doing something; a paycheck, a pat on the back or extra credit. But everything I do isn't because I want something out of it. I don't have a hidden agenda when I give fifty cents to a friend to get a soda; or when I give a gift, I don't expect to get a gift back at equal the value of the one I gave; or give a hundred dollars to a charity to help a child in the Philippines.
Selfless acts are what makes us human. Mercy, charity, sacrifice, love. If I can't have any of those qualities, what else am I?
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness;
only light can do that.
Hate cannot drive out hate;
only love can do that."
"Let us rise up tonight with a greater readiness.
Let us stand with a greater determination.
And let us move on in these powerful days,
these days of challenge, to make America what it ought to be."
- by Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. on the night before his assassination
-Hiro
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uh oh. That marked you as a Canuck. From where do you hail?
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And especially not where we are trying to spread the word of "our God" (knowing that, of course, how silly that sounds. Since it's the same "God" off of the same myths)
"That's God with a G. Or as I like to call Him, the 'good guy God.'"
-- Jim Walcott
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Originally posted by Hotpoint:Quote:
Originally posted by HiroStone:
The second quote was reiterating that as an American, he as so many rights that people living elsewhere do not have.
No offence but it would be more accurate to say "he has so many rights that people living many places elsewhere do not have"
The current reading makes it seem like you believe the US has more freedoms that everywhere else
Ah... true. Thanks.
-Hiro
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Originally posted by HiroStone:Quote:
Originally posted by Steve580:
How is ending a marriage and abandoning a family 'admirable'?
-Steve
I think he meant that he left his father, mother and siblings and wife who wouldn't accept his new faith. He sacrified all that for his faith.
I don't know if I could do that.
Ah, I inferred that by 'family' he meant wife, children. Leaving parents and siblings - not as bad, but still, I don't understand the concept. Why leave your wife for not agreeing with your religon? That's like divorcing because you have differant favorite colors, in my view.
-Steve
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No one has yet taken up a most serious issue with Hiro: Osama Bin Laden had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with airplanes crashing into the twin towers.
Osama Bin Laden was not involved. Try a Google for "Tim Osman."
On another tack, contrary to what a well-known elder-statesman friend of mine has spouted on a public forum, the folks in Iraq are not "ragheads" who deserve to be shot by our misguided troops. Their religion is, like mine, no one else's business. The good people of Iraq need only to be left alone. They had the freedom to buy firearms before the U.S. went there. How can anyone say they were opressed? It was and is all about OIL. The rest of the world knows this. Why don't you?
Concerning Hiro's thoughts about how great the U.S. is after 200+ years, any professional photographer will tell you that you're only as good as your last photograph. It matters not what images you made 200 years ago, or last week. What matters is what you're doing right now. And the U.S. is alienating the entire world right now because of a preemptive war that had its basis in lies. Neither did the U.S. have any reason nor right to enter Afghanistan. That event was planned long in advance of 9-11.
While the U.S. may have been a beacon for immigrants who came and found marvelous opportunity in years gone by, that may not be true any longer. Fortunately some far-seeing folks are getting seriously upset with the "Freedom Act" and are outlawing it in their communities. More courage is needed. More folks who have taken difficult but necessary steps to learn the truth need to speak up when someone, like Hiro, blindly declares his hostility toward what our government wants him to hate. Such is not freedom of expression, but blind slavery to the official government line.
While I support the U.S. troops, I could not in good faith let folks like Hiro, bless you, get away with spouting ill-informed hatred. It serves no useful purpose.
Use the Internet. Get off this forum and stop broadcasting disinformation. If you know something being done by the U.S. gov't is WRONG, say something about it, as I just have. Look at the jet stream every day and see what the HAARP array combined with ionized particulate matter being sprayed into the atmosphere can do to it. Do you think it looks natural? Look at it every day for a few years. (Sorry, I couldn't get the link to post.)
Looking for the truth takes time, courage, and a curious and open mind. A couple of posters here have shown clearly they know what's what, and that's cause for celebration.
Good luck, friends. Resume ranting.
......Ruxton
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I thought it, but forgot to mention it. bin Laden and Hussein aren't exactly the kind of people you'd see at the same party. bin Laden is a Wahhabi, Hussein a Ba'thist. Diametrically opposed members of the same faith. For bin Laden, Hussein is as evil as any non-Muslim. Hussein - well, not much of a religious zealot. So there you go. Interestingly enough, as Hussein has gotten older, he's played the religious game a little harder. Huh - go figure.
Saudi Wahhabism is an extremely strict interpretation of the Qur'an which sees all others - Shi'ite, Sunni, Sufi, Ba'thist, Jew, Christian, Buddhist, etc. as bad. Ba'thism is basically a kind of socialism, believeing in a secular govm't, etc. So the two of them getting together? Not gorram likely, ever. It would be like - oh, I dunno - Niska and the Reavers working together? Both bad guys, not only to the whole 'verse, but to each other as well.
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Originally posted by Ruxton:
......Ruxton
Ruxton, Aren't you worried that the guv has you on their radar and are tracking your every keystroke on the internet right now? I have it on good authority that their gamma ray cone-tails pierces right thru most tin foil hats - only ones made from a 3mil coating of colloidal silver can help.
Good luck.
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