Obama is doing a job.

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JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:01 PM

Healthcare is ...(cough, cough) very important!

On another note....what's he going to do with the increasing North Korean taunts aimed at him? Obama's taken more shit from Kim Jong Il than he has from anyone else. We've got a ship tracking their cargo ship to Myanmar. We have UN approval "to ask them to board", but not to actually board. If they just say no, will he go ahead and board it anyhow? Should he? What about the July 4th missile surprise Kim has announced? There are people on TV talking about war. Kim has already declared the 1953 cease-fire truce void, so technically we are at war. What if his missiles actually hit something, here or in S. Korea or Japan? Then what? What if China backs N. Korea like they'd likely do? What could/would Obama do?

And speaking of July 4th, the White House says it's still a go to have Iranian officials invited to participate and enjoy the holiday. I can just imagine the gentle arm nudging while chompin' on their corn on the cob....So Ali, buddy, if you release all the journalists, students, and professors that you just beat to a pulp and locked up, and you promise to only shoot people in the head "off camera"...then we can talk about a deal with your nuclear weapons program. Hey, pass the cole slaw.

KWICKO

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:12 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Healthcare is ...(cough, cough) very important!

I agree with you - tobacco should be outlawed! Cigarettes, cigars, chewing tobacco, snuff, pipe tobacco, roll-your-own... they should all be listed as controlled substances, and sold only by prescription! Adults should NEVER be allowed to make their own decisions or accept responsibility for their own actions, especially when it comes to things like tobacco and alcohol!

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On another note....what's he going to do with the increasing North Korean taunts aimed at him?

Probably about the same thing that's been done with the "North Korean taunts" for the past 50 years or so.

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Obama's taken more shit from Kim Jong Il than he has from anyone else.

Actually, Dick Cheney has talked more un-American crap than anyone else in the world since January 20, 2009. Kim-Jong Il is a rank amateur in comparison.

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We've got a ship tracking their cargo ship to Myanmar. We have UN approval "to ask them to board", but not to actually board. If they just say no, will he go ahead and board it anyhow?

To do so would be tantamount to an act of war against North Korea, just as much as if THEY did that to one of OUR ships in international waters.

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Should he? What about the July 4th missile surprise Kim has announced?

What about it? What did we do about it last year when it happened? Is there a reason we should do more this year?

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There are people on TV talking about war.

There always are. But it doesn't mean that war is always the answer.

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Kim has already declared the 1953 cease-fire truce void, so technically we are at war.

As we have been for the last 56 years. Technically, we've been "at war" with North Korea since the cease-fire was agreed to.

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What if his missiles actually hit something, here or in S. Korea or Japan? Then what? What if China backs N. Korea like they'd likely do? What could/would Obama do?

What if you get hit by a car getting out of your bed? What if you get food poisoning from your Pop-Tarts? What if? What if? What if?

As for what Obama would likely do, I'm sure he'd respond appropriately. I'm not at all convinced that China would back North Korea. We're a bit more important to them than Kim is, I'm afraid. For all their shared communist ideology, the Chinese really DO seem to like American cashy money quite a bit.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:20 PM

I think it's a bit more serious than you'd like to portray it. Kim's ramped this up about as far as he can go. I hope you're right.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:27 PM

Kim & Ahmadinajhad are really one guy- ever see the two of them together at the same time?!

The laughing Chrisisall

CITIZEN

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:00 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
To do so would be tantamount to an act of war against North Korea, just as much as if THEY did that to one of OUR ships in international waters.

Just don't fly an ensign and make no mention of country of origin.

Then it'll be just an act of piracy.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
As for what Obama would likely do, I'm sure he'd respond appropriately. I'm not at all convinced that China would back North Korea. We're a bit more important to them than Kim is, I'm afraid. For all their shared communist ideology, the Chinese really DO seem to like American cashy money quite a bit.

China these days is Leninist-Corporatist these days. China allows private Corporations, which precludes communism since there's no private ownership let alone corporations under Communism, but requires communist party officials to have a usually controlling interest on the board. There are exceptions to that rule, like the 'special economic zones' such as Hong Kong. It's pretty surely a form of Corporatism, with Government control of Private Corporations, as opposed to the US form of Private Corporation in control of Government.

Anyway, whether China backs the US or North Korea will most likely depend on who seems to be the aggressor. China has aspirations, and it also has enough of the US public and private debt to really hurt the US economy if it so chose. If the US was seen as the aggressor, it would be an ideal opportunity for China to assert itself on the world stage, to show itself willing to square up against the big guys in defence of a smaller weaker nation. It would help to garner political capital through out the region, and among many of the US-unfriendly states (especially Oil producers) that China has been trying to curry favour with, such as Iran. If North Korea were the aggressor, it would be an ideal opportunity for China to assert itself on the world stage and prove itself a friend to the states with all the inherent economic privilege that could bring.

OPPYH

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
ha....

You won't even recognize America in 4 years. And watch gas shoot up to eight bucks a gallon after he gets reelected. Obama is a piece of shit. He's nothing but Bush Jr. with blackface on.

Name one thing he and his Democratic Congress hasn't reneged on since his campaign.

He's a LIAR!

That's what you idiots get for voting an Illinois politician into the White House.

I didn't vote for Obama, but he's in charge so you'd better get used to it. And while we are at it....what is the key? You call those who voted for Obama "idiots", without any retaliation whatsoever. It appears you have truly achieved RWED invulnerability. Both sides seem to adore you. Are you a vampire? Because everyone either wants you for a friend, or a fuck. You ever thought about running for world domination? with none to oppose you it would probably be pretty easy.

Good luck.

WASHNWEAR

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:43 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
ha....

You won't even recognize America in 4 years. And watch gas shoot up to eight bucks a gallon after he gets reelected. Obama is a piece of shit. He's nothing but Bush Jr. with blackface on.

Name one thing he and his Democratic Congress hasn't reneged on since his campaign.

He's a LIAR!

That's what you idiots get for voting an Illinois politician into the White House.

I didn't vote for Obama, but he's in charge so you'd better get used to it. And while we are at it....what is the key? You call those who voted for Obama "idiots", without any retaliation whatsoever. It appears you have truly achieved RWED invulnerability. Both sides seem to adore you. Are you a vampire?

I think one of the "keys" in this case is that Jack doesn't have a rep for being a Kool-Aid-chugging, my-Bush-right-or-wrong cheerleader. If memory serves he's expressed views from "both sides of the aisle."

And just for clarity's sake, that's not a jab disguised as a response. For my own part, I was Kool-Aid-chugging, my-Obama-right-or-wrong cheerleader (one of Jack's aforementioned "idiots", I guess) 'til a few months after he took office. And now, like many others, I've got the hangover to prove it. It's not that I completely regret letting him take me home...but he looked a lot better last night at the bar.

donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

KWICKO

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
ha....

You won't even recognize America in 4 years. And watch gas shoot up to eight bucks a gallon after he gets reelected. Obama is a piece of shit. He's nothing but Bush Jr. with blackface on.

Name one thing he and his Democratic Congress hasn't reneged on since his campaign.

He's a LIAR!

That's what you idiots get for voting an Illinois politician into the White House.

I didn't vote for Obama, but he's in charge so you'd better get used to it. And while we are at it....what is the key? You call those who voted for Obama "idiots", without any retaliation whatsoever. It appears you have truly achieved RWED invulnerability. Both sides seem to adore you. Are you a vampire?

I think one of the "keys" in this case is that Jack doesn't have a rep for being a Kool-Aid-chugging, my-Bush-right-or-wrong cheerleader. If memory serves he's expressed views from "both sides of the aisle."

And just for clarity's sake, that's not a jab disguised as a response. For my own part, I was Kool-Aid-chugging, my-Obama-right-or-wrong cheerleader (one of Jack's aforementioned "idiots", I guess) 'til a few months after he took office. And now, like many others, I've got the hangover to prove it. It's not that I completely regret letting him take me home...but he looked a lot better last night at the bar.

donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

Thanks, WNW, for a just about perfect analogy. That's pretty much the same feeling I've got, and I too was an Obamaniac.

As for 6ix, I tend to not take him very seriously most of the time, and he IS an equal-opportunity offender; he doesn't care much for the Bushies either.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

KWICKO

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:25 PM

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Anyway, whether China backs the US or North Korea will most likely depend on who seems to be the aggressor. China has aspirations, and it also has enough of the US public and private debt to really hurt the US economy if it so chose. If the US was seen as the aggressor, it would be an ideal opportunity for China to assert itself on the world stage, to show itself willing to square up against the big guys in defence of a smaller weaker nation. It would help to garner political capital through out the region, and among many of the US-unfriendly states (especially Oil producers) that China has been trying to curry favour with, such as Iran. If North Korea were the aggressor, it would be an ideal opportunity for China to assert itself on the world stage and prove itself a friend to the states with all the inherent economic privilege that could bring.

Couldn't agree more with that assessment, Citizen. Seems the only real way for the U.S. to "win" in this situation is by simply refusing to play, or waiting for North Korea to overplay its hand.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I was Kool-Aid-chugging, my-Obama-right-or-wrong cheerleader (one of Jack's aforementioned "idiots", I guess) 'til a few months after he took office.

Ah HA!
And NOW you realize what a commie-Lib, socialist Mao-mother***** he is, and how WRONG you were to support him & his brownshirt cause! You realize NOW that Bush was just a good guy doing what he believed to be right for all freedom-loving, dictator-hating standup Americans!!!

*snaps out of it*

Uhhhhhh...AURaptor....What?

HOLY CRAP!! I thing I just got a touch of 'Rappy's Syndrome!!!
Silly me... I shouldn't post after I get hit WITH A VERY LARGE ANVIL!

The laughing Chrisisall

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