Obama is doing a job.
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UPDATED: Thursday, July 2, 2009 13:59
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Quote:And if you argue that you don't work for the Alliance, I will laugh at YOU, purplebelly.
Originally posted by MikeWilliamson:
If you argue that State isn't full of lefties, I will laugh at you.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:This is AURaptor, getting a friend to write his uber-biased simplistic doody more eloquently for him, I conjure.
Originally posted by citizen:
They're probably left of you, but then who the hell ain't? Maybe neo-Nazi's. Maybe.
Either that, or a poor indoctrinated vet that needs to justify his skewed vision of what he's been through, but I think that highly unlikely, based on the timing of his appearance on this board.
The laughing Chrisisall
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i can relate to Obama in one way: when i was a teenager, i was a flaming collectivist, anti-capitalist, whacko environmental lemming. in that sense, i know exactly where he's coming from... and just how dangerous his socialist utopian ideas are. i would have ignorantly sacrificed my liberties for the illusion that this benevolent utopian government could save humanity from ourselves.
Obamacare, cap and trade, and every other hair-brained liberal scheme thats been concocted serve the same purpose: to put you in a box, to govern how you live/think, to assert the states ownership over your personal sovereignty.
are those of you who voted for the guy really this dense?
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Quote:The leash on the dog, or the dog on the leash?
Originally posted by antimason:
are those of you who voted for the guy really this dense?
I vote for the least perceived innocent deaths, that's all.
I'd willingly follow a socialist utopia that curtails freedoms than a right-wing agenda that wants more freedom at the cost of millions of human lives- in a perfect world we'd have the choice, in this world it's blood or Starfleet.
The laughing Chrisisall
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posted by Chrisisall.
The leash on the dog, or the dog on the leash?
I vote for the least perceived innocent deaths, that's all.
dont kid yourself my friend, we havent had an event sufficient enough to plunge us into a full fledged war yet. he's still going into afghanistan, how do you think thatll work out? the soviet empire couldnt salvage that place, and they werent out mirandizing enemies on the battle field. the democrats are just as pro-interventionist as the republicans, watch and see.
and ill be curious if all the liberals out their will be willing to criticize Obama, when he takes advantage of all those tactics created by the Bush administration. my guess is, he'll be even more authoritarian in use of the patriot/military commissions acts
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I'd willingly follow a socialist utopia that curtails freedoms than a right-wing agenda that wants more freedom at the cost of millions of human lives- in a perfect world we'd have the choice, in this world it's blood or Starfleet.
i dont know, thats subjective. id argue more lives have been lost through abortion then every war we've fought combined, in the last 50 years. not that the right wing has been able to permanantly affirm the life of a fetus.. but they havent made it a tenet of socialized population control like the left has
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Um, I wouldn't exactly peg Chris as liberal. He's more of a jester...
At any rate, antimason, you're preaching to the choir.
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Quote:Ok, do I did. And the Dunning-Kruger Effect is as follows:
Originally posted by MikeWilliamson:
Oh, yeah--and 0bama went from "bringing the troops home in 60 days" to "six months" to "within 18 months after the generals say it's safe," to "as long as it continues to improve." He started a lot of this the afternoon after he got his NSA brief. It seems they made him realize he wasn't quite as smart as he thought he was, on the subject of military strategy. I'd recommend googling the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Quote:So according to your OWN WORDS Obama realized that he wasn't quite as smart as he thought he was. Therefore, not a victim of the effect that you cite.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is an example of cognitive bias in which "...people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it". They therefore suffer an illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average. This leads to a perverse result where people with less competence will rate their ability more highly than people with relatively more competence.
I'm sorry MW, but you just undercut your own argument.
And BTW- the description seems to apply quite nicely to GWB.----------------------
We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm sorry MW, but you just undercut your own argument.
Not just GWB...
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
*raises hand*My car gets 35 city, 40 highway!
My car (and yes, it is a car) gets 9 in the city and about 25 on the highway.
I love me my Good old pristine condition, 6,000 lb. LTD.
It smells like a lawn mower when I park it.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM gas!
Obama will have to do a lot better than $4,500 towards a new rice burner to take it from me.
HA! His dumb bill wouldn't even give me the money for the trade in because my car is 5 years too old for the program!!!!!!!!
MY CAR!!!!! ONE OF THE WORST OFFENDERS OF THE CARBON FOOTPRINT EVER CONCEIVED AND STILL ON THE ROAD!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT EVEN A SUV FOR CHRISSAKES!!!!!!
It only cost me $1,800 when gas was REALLY expensive ($700.00 less than my previously cheapest used car), and it's by far the favorite piece of machinery I've ever had the pleasure to ride in.
Take away my LTD? You'll have to pry the steering wheel from my cold, dead fingers....
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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So anyway MikeWilliamson... I'd like to continue the discussion about strategies and goals.
Quote:NO!
Saddam was a BAD GUY.BAD GUYs don't generally turn into GOOD GUYs.
REALLY?????
The world is FULL of "bad guys". We can start with Lil'Kim and work our way around to Myanamr generals, www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Dictators/CommitPerfectDictatorship.html Iranian Ayatollahs, Saudi and UAE princes, Israel (in its treatment of the Palestinians), most of the warlords and dictators of central and eastern Africa, and the more corrupt leaders of central and south America, and Medvedev. Shoot man, there prolly more "bad guys" than "good guys" in leadership positions. But normally, we don't invade countries because they have a "bad guy" at the helm. In fact, we've installed and supported a lot of "bad guys" ourselves. No, what we REALLY don't like are "bad guys" who won't willingly give us what we want to take.
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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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