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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:36 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I'd willingly follow a socialist utopia that curtails freedoms than a right-wing agenda that wants more freedom at the cost of millions of human lives- in a perfect world we'd have the choice, in this world it's blood or Starfleet.

More like blood or 1984 (blood behind closed doors).

There is no such thing as a Socialist Utopia so long as Human Beings enter into the equation.

It's funny that the only thing that Sci-Fi movies and TV shows have to offer that I can't swallow is the Utopia.

If you want a more recent example of the way life will imitate art, watch Minority Report again.... or better yet... read the Phillip K. Dick short story. Then read the rest of his stuff because that guy rocks.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

There is no such thing as a Socialist Utopia so long as Human Beings enter into the equation.

You will never command a starship with that attitude.

The laughing Chrisisall

BYTEMITE

Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
More like blood or 1984 (blood behind closed doors).

There is no such thing as a Socialist Utopia so long as Human Beings enter into the equation.

It's funny that the only thing that Sci-Fi movies and TV shows have to offer that I can't swallow is the Utopia.

If you want a more recent example of the way life will imitate art, watch Minority Report again.... or better yet... read the Phillip K. Dick short story. Then read the rest of his stuff because that guy rocks.

I would actually argue that there is no such thing as a Socialist utopia so long as Human Beings refuse to give two shits about each other.

That is a destructive behaviour our species has started to overexhibit which I believe must eventually be overcome... Or we'll make ourselves extinct.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:59 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I would actually argue that there is no such thing as a Socialist utopia so long as Human Beings refuse to give two shits about each other.

That is a destructive behaviour our species has started to overexhibit which I believe must eventually be overcome... Or we'll make ourselves extinct.

How do you propose we *make* that happen?

The movie Equilibrium comes to mind, but then again, at the end of that movie they chose blood over zombieism.

That is one dream that will never be realized. And I just said recently that we will end up annihilating our own species in the end. The only reason we're starting to "overexibit" the bad is because it's become the collective bad that only a handful of people are in charge of today.

The bad has always been there. From the day your kids are born you don't have to teach them how to steal. If you don't teach them NOT to steal, they will steal.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

CITIZEN

Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by RIPWash:
Well . . . I didn't say I agreed with HOW he said some of it. He was a little harsh here and there. But I thought he had some good stuff to say.

He might have done. But if you act like a prick, you'll get treated like one, and you'll be the one to blame for that.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 28, 2009 1:29 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
But if you act like a prick, you'll get treated like one, and you'll be the one to blame for that.

Hmmmmmmm..... I wonder if the same standard applies to Citizen?

Place your bets....

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

CITIZEN

Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:47 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Hmmmmmmm..... I wonder if the same standard applies to Citizen?

Place your bets....

Depends if your criteria is something I've done, or something you want to blame me for since you can't take responsibility for your own actions.

Related issue, do you remember saying this:

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Cool man. Whatever.

You go about your business and I'll go about mine.

Since I'm "not even shit on [your] heel", I find it strange that you're so fixated on me. What's even stranger is that, for someone who like to portray himself as Libertarian, you find the very concept of not forcing a confrontation so difficult and alien.

It's cool, I've got my own hate filled acolyte. Someone so blindly devoted to me, that they can't just ignore my posts, they have to respond to voice their hate. Someone who sees me as such an important figure in their issues, try as they might, they simply cannot ignore me. You're like a moth to my flame Jack. You can't even tolerate RipWash mentioning my name without spitting vitriol, you hate me Jack, and your hate is based on a fantasy you concocted, that I'm sure you believe, but nevertheless was created merely to legitimise the irrational hate you feel for anyone who doesn't agree with you.

I think it's both sweet and sad you've focused on me.

Bit of background:
Jack has decided that I drew a conspiracy against him, to end a friendship with a mutual friend.

Reality: Jack, in a typical display of childish furore went off at me for no reason once, so I told him some truths about him, which he decided had come from the mutual friend, when in reality they came from the fact that he is so mind numbingly and patently transparent. He threw a temper-tantrum, ended the friendship, and has blamed me for his immature outburst ever since.

Of course, the consequences of Jacks actions could never be his fault. So goes this "libertarian's" belief in personal responsibility. No, it makes much more sense that I conspired against him, because, because, well there's no motive actually, probably because I'm evil.

In fact Jack, it's just your fevered paranoid mind legitimising your own irrational hatred. I never conspired against you, you were never worth the effort, even if I were the kind of person to do such a thing. What is becoming increasingly obvious, is that you are that kind of person, you are that consumed with hatred for me, and all your belief that I did these things to you, is merely your justification for wanting to do them to me.

Go live your sad life, continue to blame me for your troubles, no matter how much you wish you could, you can never harm me. As such I'm indifferent you sad, insane paranoid psycho. So go on, continue to hate, seethe with your blind hatred of a faceless internet personality until it's all you have. Lets be honest, besides raving at the 'man', and crying about the cost of Cigarettes, it's very nearly all you have already. Let it shrivel you up inside if that's what you want, because truly since you won't listen to reason or reality, I refuse to let your paranoia effect me any longer.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:16 PM

You know no truths about me Cit.

Neither do I of you.

This is why I never would have started telling people stuff about you behind your back and trying to influence them against you. Anything I've had to say about you was right here in the open for anyone to read and judge my judgements.

No.... That is what YOU chose to do.

If there is anyone who I've ever had a deep disrespect for online in any of the arguments I've ever had, it is you, and only you. Somehow, you've been the only one to transcend the anonymity of the internet and enter into my own life in however meaningful or trivial the way.

You didn't like me or what I had to say (just as I didn't care for you), but you decided to make it personal and start talking about me behind my back with somebody I met and shared some common interests with.

There was no need to do this, and very little to base your opinions on other than internet posts which are notoriously misinterpreted in the first place.

You are a piece of shit, Cit. You are no better than a Televangelist who tells the world they should act one way while they're fucking the intern.

The fact that you can type English as good as Hero and manipulate normal words into Doublethink not withstanding, nothing you have to say about anything holds any meaning.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

KWICKO

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:43 PM

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...you can type English as good as Hero...

As well as...

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. And I'm just playin', 6ix - tryin' to lighten the mood a wee bit.

CITIZEN

Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:43 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
This is why I never would have started telling people stuff about you behind your back and trying to influence them against you. Anything I've had to say about you was right here in the open for anyone to read and judge my judgements.

No.... That is what YOU chose to do.

I really didn't. I don't care how you want to legitimise your irrational hatred.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
If there is anyone who I've ever had a deep disrespect for online in any of the arguments I've ever had, it is you, and only you. Somehow, you've been the only one to transcend the anonymity of the internet and enter into my own life in however meaningful or trivial the way.

And You've not entered in to my life at all. You're the one who's consumed with hatred over nothing, and that's entirely down to you and you alone.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You didn't like me or what I had to say (just as I didn't care for you), but you decided to make it personal and start talking about me behind my back with somebody I met and shared some common interests with.

There was no need to do this, and very little to base your opinions on other than internet posts which are notoriously misinterpreted in the first place.

Actually, you often and continually got personal. So, when you were mentioned, one time, I said I thought you were a prick. No more no less, and not once did I try to turn anyone against anyone. I never spoke to the person who I supposedly turned against you about you again until after you had thrown a childish temper-tantrum and you cut off contact. There's no need to do most of the stuff you've ever done in respect to me, before or after this defining event, but you did them any way because you can't tolerate people with opinions different to your own. You twisted everything inside your head. She didn't break off contact because I was more important to her or she knew me longer, YOU broke off contact. Every slight detail of what really happened has been warped in your paranoid little mind to legitimise your hatred, yet it's still nothing more than fantasy.

You're the one that can't stand to ignore me, it's you that has a deep core of hatred.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are a piece of shit, Cit. You are no better than a Televangelist who tells the world they should act one way while they're fucking the intern.

The fact that you can type English as good as Hero and manipulate normal words into Doublethink not withstanding, nothing you have to say about anything holds any meaning.

The self styled Libertarian wannabe Authoritarian Dictator accuses others of Hypocrisy. Now that's funny!

Mmmhhhhm. Feel the hatred.

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