Kill Bill: Grasshopper had a rope around his peepee
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Carradine was found sitting in a closet, naked, with ropes tided around his neck, hands and penis. Hard to do that to oneself. No suicide note.
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"When Vic Morrow died on the set of The Twilight Zone (beheaded by helicopter with 2 kid stars), a Hollywood producer said 'I'd kill for a break like that.'"
On CNN tonight, Larry King had Keith Carradine and their lawyer on, saying they absolutely suspect foul play in the murder of David Carradine. Either sexplay gone bad "made to look like a suicide", or murder. They will conduct a 2nd autopsey when the body arrives in USA.
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Carradine Had Rope Around Genitals: Thai Police
BANGKOK — Police are speculating that accidental suffocation, not suicide, may have caused the death of American cult actor David Carradine, whose body was found in a hotel closet in the Thai capital with a rope tied to his neck, wrist and genitals.
Celebrity blogs and social networking Web sites were abuzz with news of the death of Carradine _ best known for the 1970s TV series "Kung Fu." The circumstances under which he died have led to speculation that the 72-year-old actor may have been engaged in a dangerous form of sex play known as auto-erotic asphyxiation.
The practice involves temporarily cutting off the supply of oxygen to the brain to heighten the effects of a sexual climax.
Dr. Nanthana Sirisap, director of Chulalongkorn Hospital's Autopsy Center, told reporters that the autopsy was conducted because of the "unusual circumstances surrounding Carradine's death," but did not elaborate.
Police Lt. Teerapop Luanseng had said Thursday that Carradine's body was found "naked, hanging in a closet," and police at that time suspected suicide. However, no suicide note has been found.
Carradine's friends and associates insisted he would not kill himself.
"All we can say is, we know David would never have committed suicide," said Tiffany Smith of Binder & Associates, his management company. "We're just waiting for them to finish the investigation and find out what really happened. He really appreciated everything life has to give ... and that's not something David would ever do to himself."
Pornthip Rojanasunand, director of Thailand's Central Institute of Forensic Science, said the circumstances suggested that Carradine may have died performing auto-erotic asphyxiation, which is said to result in a form of giddiness and euphoria _ similar to alcohol or drug intoxication _ that enhances the sexual experience.
"In some cases it can suggest murder, too. But sometimes when the victim is naked and in bondage, it can suggest that the victim is doing it to himself," said Pornthip, who is considered the country's top criminal forensics expert but who did not take part in the autopsy. "If you hang yourself by the neck, you don't need so much pressure to kill yourself. Those who get highly sexually aroused tend to forget this fact."
Carradine had flown to Thailand last week and began work on a film titled "Stretch" two days before his death, Smith said. He had several other projects lined up after the action film, which was being directed by Charles de Meaux.
Carradine was in good spirits when he left the U.S. for Thailand on May 29 to work on "Stretch," his manager Smith said by phone from Beverly Hills.
Monica Donati, a spokesman for the French film company MK2, which was making "Stretch," said in statement from Paris that the film crew in Bangkok was "clearly shocked" by Carradine's death but would finish shooting. Carradine only had three more days of filming left in Bangkok, she said.
"David was apparently very happy about this new role and about filming again," she said.
Hotel manager Giraudo described Carradine as "very much a person full of life" who chatted with the staff.
"He was a great piano player and played a few nights in the hotel lobby," he said, "He also played the flute and the guests really enjoyed it. I mentioned to him that I had seen (the movie) 'Crank' with my family and that was the last smile he gave me."
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David Carradine's family call in FBI over actor's death
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5467025/David-Carrad
ines-family-call-in-FBI-over-actors-death.html
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Thai authorities said they have all but ruled out foul play, based on surveillance footage and interviews with hotel staff that indicate no one was in Carradine's room before he died.
His family have said they were "profoundly disturbed" by the release in a Thail newspaper of photographs showing a naked body, believed to be that of Carradine, suspended from a clothes bar in a hotel closet. They have threatened legal action over the publication.
Too bad Nancy Disgrace cant shut up about Tot Mom Murder on CNN. This is a much better mystery.
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C'mon, PN. Don't you have website of your own or something?
SergeantX
"It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah"
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RWED:
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Carradine's "Deviant Sexual Behavior"
Ex-wife accused actor of "potentially deadly" acts in court filing
www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0605092carradine1.html
Oops, somebody forgot to seal that court record.
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A Thai police commander said Friday that US actor David Carradine, found hanged in his Bangkok hotel room, may have died from a sex act gone wrong.
"There was a rope tied around his neck and another rope tied at his sex organ, and the two ropes were tied together and hung in the closet," Lieutenant General Worapong Siewpreecha told reporters.
"Under these circumstances we cannot be sure that he committed suicide but he may have died from masturbation," he said.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20090605/tts-entertainment-film-people-us
-thailan-5b8313a.html
Where's Nancy Grace?
Thank god FBI is on the case.
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Originally posted by SergeantX:
C'mon, PN. Don't you have website of your own or something?
Why dont you post something yourself?
Find some good news, or write a fanfic.
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If you weren't there, then you don't know. I'm talking about the show.....it was the coolest show ever to hit TV, nothing like it had ever been done. Carradine was the biggest star on the planet. I don't like to see his name sullied like this.
Bruce Lee was virtually an unknown, except for his brief stint as Kato on the very short-lived Green Hornet. This was before all his Hong Kong movies. He could never have made Kung Fu the show that Carradine did. He didn't have the acting chops that Carradine had. Lee's career skyrocketed with those Hong Kong movies after Kung Fu was cancelled, but he died in 1973. Who got the better deal? Who knows.
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Yanno, I know mosta that when I posted the fact of his death in RWED, but I specifically didn't mention none of it cause it ain't any of my damn business and I refuse to disrespect the guy by makin it so.
-F
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It's looking like a murder. To not look at the facts of the murder is to become an accomplice to that murder.
David Carradine was looking into various criminal conspiracies and going public with Truth, as reported on Infowars radio today. This appears to be a threat to other Hollywood stars who want to join the Truth brigade. Carradine had contacted Infowars radio to appear as a guest, but Alex Jones never got around to calling him back.
Charlie Sheen's stripper wife was ordered to divorce him and slander him for appearing on Infowars radio. Then she shacked up with her best friend's husband.
Dick Cheney's DC madam was suicided after appearing on Infowars radio, saying she would never suicide herself.
The infowars forum moderator was interviewed about his bogus SWAT raid last week (ammo reloading is meth manufacturing according to real estate agents).
Another man was arrested yesterday for posting on infowars forum, held without bail for complaining about the cop who shot a handcuffed train passenger, after Secret Service and FBI served a search warrant on Infowars for server info. The cop had already been fired and indicted for murder.
www.infowars.com/virginia-man-charged-with-making-threats-against-poli
ce-on-infowars/
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PN,
What I wonder is if you have any conception how your posts are perceived? Does it bother you that pretty much everyone here disregards what you say because they think you're insane?
It'd bother me. Especially in your shoes, because some of what you post is likely true, and it's scary stuff that ought to be taken seriously. But because you go off like a raving lunatic about anything and everything under the sun, it's all just a blur of tabloid silliness.
If you throttled back a bit, and were a little more selective on the stuff you posted, you might be taken more seriously and actually have a bigger impact. Just something to consider.
SergeantX
"It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah"
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Carradine with his daughters
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His hands were tied up, above his head. How does that happen? It's not impossible, but you have to ask all the questions," Kobilinsky said.
The family has openly wondered if Carradine's death was foul play - and whether his death may be connected to kung fu secret societies. Keith Carradine contacted the FBI last week seeking an investigation.
www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/08/2009-06-08_forensics_expert.html
So Carradine's family are conspiracy lone nuts?
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As for cause of death, here's what we're hearing ... if this is truly a case of auto-erotica, typically people who do this will put a cloth or something between the neck and the skin to avoid marks that would be difficult to explain. There's a picture that was published in a Thai newspaper showing the body hanging. We will not publish it, but we do not see evidence of anything between the neck and rope. To the contrary, the photo shows redness in the right shoulder area, next to the neck.
Also -- the notion behind auto-erotica is that oxygen is restricted to heighten orgasm, but the subject generally has a ladder, stool or something like it to restore oxygen. The photo does not show a ladder or stool, but the body is almost in a sitting position. We do not know if any items were moved before the picture was taken.
One of the biggest mysteries -- the photo in the Thai newspaper shows that Carradine's hands are tied above his head (which we reported Friday), yet Thai police say no one was with him in the room. The question -- how's that possible?
www.tmz.com/2009/06/07/david-carradine-second-autopsy/
Are the jews at TMZ lone nuts?
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"It means an Operative. That's trouble you've not known. They'll come at you sideways. That's how They think, that's how They move. Sidle up with a smile. Hit you where you're weak. That sort of man is hard. Kills and never asks why."
-Shepherd Book
One thing Carradine's death shows that everyone admits is hanging out with sleazy criminal types can get you killed, one way or another. Your "friends" will be the ones to do it.
Look at the photo for yourself, as a jury will be required to do. I don't see how he could do this to himself. No way could that be fun. If it was an assassination, it was masterful. But this photo appears to destroy the claim it was suicide, or accidental by himself. Perhaps it was leaked by a friendly intel agency, to keep the media from covering it up? Police routinely delete police videotapes to protect police from arrest and win convictions in traffic court.
NSFW: www.makli.com/thairath-carradine-photo/
But this photo is also alleged to be a fake re-enactment by the Thai tabloid, and Thai police allegedly deny his hands were tied. Who is doing disinfo?
www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/thai-rath-photos-of-dead-da
vid-carradine-fake-see-here_100202481.html
Thai police officially alleged his hands were tied behind his back, not over his head, which tends to prove the photo is a fake.
INXS singer Mr Kylie Miniogue was likewise found hanging nude in a hotel closet, perhaps victim of lone nut autoeroticism. A British Conservative MP died from autoerotic asphyxiation by self-bondage in 1994.
www.nowpublic.com/culture/autoeroticism-david-carradine-similar-michae
l-hutchence-death
That's why the real crime scene photos are so important. Then again, 1,000 American idiots kill themselves every year by strangulation during sex.
I like Carradine more now that it's revealed he was a Truther. But closet Truthers are in the most danger.
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Originally posted by SergeantX:
If you want more fun-filled posts, then post them yourself. Nobody's stopping you, or anyone else. Please do so.
If you don't want to read a thread, then don't click it.
Are you an Operative, or a dummy?
Are you in Pentagon Cyber Command, as your secret identity suggests? Or are you a cop?
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If you throttled back a bit, and were a little more selective on the stuff you posted, you might be taken more seriously and actually have a bigger impact. Just something to consider.
He's already cut back on the slew of photos he used to post. Bravo, PN, for taking that step. He's not posting as many Jewish conspiracies nowadays either, or going on about Chinese Commie puppet Rupert.
Baby steps, Sarge. I think he's trying.
PN, for what it's worth, I agree with Sarge. I find some of your posts very informative, but it is still a hassle to sift through either stuff that isn't well evidenced (the correlation between appearing on infowars and death), or stuff that isn't very important (Carradine's sexual habits). Now if you had just concentrated on the probability that Carradine had been murdered, then that might be something to talk about.
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PN, for what it's worth, I agree with Sarge. I find some of your posts very informative, but it is still a hassle to sift through either stuff that isn't well evidenced (the correlation between appearing on infowars and death), or stuff that isn't very important (Carradine's sexual habits). Now if you had just concentrated on the probability that Carradine had been murdered, then that might be something to talk about.
I don't find any of PN's posts informative or useful; I *DO* find them rather laughable, though. As it stands, he's posted up so much sheer bullshit and outright fabrications (999-TRILLION illegals in the US ASAP!!) that I won't listen to a thing he says, about anything. Even on the stuff he's supposed to be knowledgable about, he's flat-out wrong more often than not.
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.
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Thai blog is reporting inside scoop its a robbery by prostitution ring. Footprint found on bed did not match Carradine. Coverup by Thai and hotel to salvage (sex) tourism and film industry.
http://magickpapers.com/blog
The alleged death photo appears to be a fake, since the hotel decor does not match the photo.
NSFW?: http://blog.shankbone.org/2009/06/08/david-carradine-death-photos-are-
fake/
The elite British press gets in on the action:
Kung Fu star David Carradine's body found in a wig and fishnet stockings
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1191493/Carradine-familys-fury-public
ation-crime-scene-photo.html
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Jerry Penacoli: "David was very interested in investigating and disclosing secret societies."
Mark Geragos: "Absolutely. What that means is connected to his interest in martial arts."
CNN Larry King Live
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0906/05/lkl.01.html
Maybe a ninja got him?
Or death by masterbation?
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"David was pretty strange. He would tie himself up, and I would walk in and see him and say, 'Oh, my God, David, you've got to be kidding me!'"
-Gail Jenson, Carradine's 4th of 5 wives
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George Bush killed him then Dick Cheney strung him up and made it look like an accident.
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In Craig Heimbichner's Blood on the Altar: The Secret History of the World's Most Dangerous Secret Society, it notes that the cofounder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory Jack Parsons was the OTO's Agape Lodge cofounder. The OTO, he characterizes, as a group involved in sex-magick, pedopilia, and other tales of power and perversion. (BTW, agape is Greek for "brotherly love.")
Heimbichner observes (p. 121), "His Agape Lodge was affiliated with many Hollywood writers and actors, including John Carradine, father of [David] the star of "Kung Fu" and the cinematic blood-geyser Kill Bill. The elder Carradine read one of [Aleister] Crowley's poems at the inauguration of the Agape Lodge No. 2 in 1935." (Author Heimbichner also mentions actors Dennis Hopper and Dean Stockwell, and filmmaker Kenneth Anger, as Thelemites, the term for OTO members.)
Two of the OTO's most famous: Jack Parsons's girlfriend, Marjorie Cameron and Dennis Hopper.
The groundbreaking 2000 book, Sex and Rockets: The Occult World of Jack Parsons by John Carter and the 2005 copycat work, Strange Angel: The Otherworldly Life of Rocket Scientist John Whiteside Parsons by George Pendle, give more details, especially in the realm of "following the money."
John Carradine visited the house perhaps because he was a member of OTO, or, as Pendle wonders, for "research purposes: He was soon to play the organist of a satanic cult in the film The Black Cat."
John Carradine (1906-1988) appeared in The Black Cat (1934), playing the "cult organist" who was killed in an explosion (along with the rest of the cultists) when the Bela Lugosi character blows up the cult's headquarters. Lugosi is shown activating the bomb, followed by an exterior shot of the house exploding.
John Carradine's wild sexual ways, as one of The Bundy Drive Boys, is also discussed in Hollywood's Hellfire Club (2007) by author Gregory William Mank and contributors Charles Heard and Bill Nelson.
So, was the father to the clan a dedicated OTO member in the 1930s, or in stereotypical Hollywood fashion, merely getting closer to his topic, as Heath Ledger would do recently with the Joker role, to more deeply understand the forbidden subject matter being researched? Was David Carradine doing something similar in Bangkok and elsewhere?
The elder Carradine, we now know, worked with those who were trying to understand the modern versions of the Illuminati. John Carradine is listed as the narrator for Gary Allen's cassette recording of the tape, "The Establishment - C. F. R." It is noted as an "in-depth look at the 'invisible government' that controls the United States. C.F.R. as a modern manifestation of the conspiracy begun by the Illuminati." ("C.F.R." stands for the Council on Foreign Relations.)
Did the Carradines play the dangerous game of double-agents?
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The hotel's location is key. One of Bangkok's most unique animist shrines resides under the large banyan tree circled in the upper left corner. Here, favors are asked of Tubtim, a water spirit that lives in the adjacent canal. If a wish is granted, devotees leave phallic offerings of all shapes and sizes. Hundreds of colorful examples are lined up around the shrine. And from the hotel parking lot, along a walkway, to the shrine.
Little is known about the origins of the shrine, which now stands on the grounds of the Swissotel Nai Lert Hotel in the heart of Bangkok.
Sex goddess shrine at David Carradine's hotel in Thailand
TheSmokingGun also has come out with documents detailing Carradine's apparently extensive "history" of sexual/indecent behavior---including allegedly having sex with his own daughter Calista.
http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2009/06/carradine2.html

Is that Calista Carradine in the silver dress?
Calista Carradine in Scientology Cult
www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-nam
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