Suddenly Palin's botched Kouric interview is... still retarded

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OPPYH

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:19 PM

Palin froze when interviewed by Kouric. And everyone laughed.

Obama was interviewed by Leno, and took a low brow jab at the mentally challneged.....silence.

You can't sugar coat Obama's mind set. When he says something, he means it. This power hungry tool of a president is in charge. To quote his favorite pastor
"God bless America..no...God damn America! The chickens will come home to roost"!

KWICKO

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
Palin froze when interviewed by Kouric. And everyone laughed.

Obama was interviewed by Leno, and took a low brow jab at the mentally challneged.....silence.

You can't sugar coat Obama's mind set. When he says something, he means it. This power hungry tool of a president is in charge. To quote his favorite pastor
"God bless America..no...God damn America! The chickens will come home to roost"!

Isn't your post kind of a low-brow jab at the Special Olympics, too? After all, aren't YOU calling all the contestants retards, by saying that they're ALL "mentally challneged [sic]"?

Last time I looked, I couldn't sworn that the Special Olympics were for the physically handicapped as well.

So in making your jab at Obama, you've just joined him in the "Ooooops! Aw, FUCK!" club by saying something really stupid that wasn't at all what you meant to say.

Are did you MEAN to say that all Spcial Olympics participants are retards?

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

OPPYH

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

Isn't your post kind of a low-brow jab at the Special Olympics, too? After all, aren't YOU calling all the contestants retards, by saying that they're ALL "mentally challneged [sic]"?

Last time I looked, I couldn't sworn that the Special Olympics were for the physically handicapped as well.

So in making your jab at Obama, you've just joined him in the "Ooooops! Aw, FUCK!" club by saying something really stupid that wasn't at all what you meant to say.

Are did you MEAN to say that all Spcial Olympics participants are retards?

As I posted in another thread mentally challenged/physically impaired. Sorry if I forgot the physically impaired part this time around. That was an oversight....not a jab.

Hey, if your on the same page of Obama with the "special" people bashing then I really feel bad for you. It's in the same vein of Date rape, and cancer jokes. The poorest possible taste. You can defend his snide comment all you want, it just shows your character. With all of your "retard" talk it's pretty obvious. Good luck with your soul, your going to need it.

WASHNWEAR

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

Isn't your post kind of a low-brow jab at the Special Olympics, too? After all, aren't YOU calling all the contestants retards, by saying that they're ALL "mentally challneged [sic]"?

Last time I looked, I couldn't sworn that the Special Olympics were for the physically handicapped as well.

So in making your jab at Obama, you've just joined him in the "Ooooops! Aw, FUCK!" club by saying something really stupid that wasn't at all what you meant to say.

Are did you MEAN to say that all Spcial Olympics participants are retards?

As I posted in another thread mentally challenged/physically impaired. Sorry if I forgot the physically impaired part this time around. That was an oversight....not a jab.

Hey, if your on the same page of Obama with the "special" people bashing then I really feel bad for you. It's in the same vein of Date rape, and cancer jokes. The poorest possible taste. You can defend his snide comment all you want, it just shows your character. With all of your "retard" talk it's pretty obvious. Good luck with your soul, your going to need it.

Hey, Oppy, congrats! Word has it you're on board for the next regular Olympics, in the Standing Faux Outrage event.

I smell GOLD!

It was like that when we got here!

PIZMOBEACH

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WASHnwear:
Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

Isn't your post kind of a low-brow jab at the Special Olympics, too? After all, aren't YOU calling all the contestants retards, by saying that they're ALL "mentally challneged [sic]"?

Last time I looked, I couldn't sworn that the Special Olympics were for the physically handicapped as well.

So in making your jab at Obama, you've just joined him in the "Ooooops! Aw, FUCK!" club by saying something really stupid that wasn't at all what you meant to say.

Are did you MEAN to say that all Spcial Olympics participants are retards?

As I posted in another thread mentally challenged/physically impaired. Sorry if I forgot the physically impaired part this time around. That was an oversight....not a jab.

Hey, if your on the same page of Obama with the "special" people bashing then I really feel bad for you. It's in the same vein of Date rape, and cancer jokes. The poorest possible taste. You can defend his snide comment all you want, it just shows your character. With all of your "retard" talk it's pretty obvious. Good luck with your soul, your going to need it.

Hey, Oppy, congrats! Word has it you're on board for the next regular Olympics, in the Standing Faux Outrage event.

I smell GOLD!

Yessir - that's an "I'm bored, let's start some sh*t" thread.

(I've NEVER done that!)

RUE

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:14 PM

Also, Wright never said this: "God bless America..no...God damn America! The chickens will come home to roost"!

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Silence is consent.

WASHNWEAR

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Quote:
Originally posted by WASHnwear:
Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

Isn't your post kind of a low-brow jab at the Special Olympics, too? After all, aren't YOU calling all the contestants retards, by saying that they're ALL "mentally challneged [sic]"?

Last time I looked, I couldn't sworn that the Special Olympics were for the physically handicapped as well.

So in making your jab at Obama, you've just joined him in the "Ooooops! Aw, FUCK!" club by saying something really stupid that wasn't at all what you meant to say.

Are did you MEAN to say that all Spcial Olympics participants are retards?

As I posted in another thread mentally challenged/physically impaired. Sorry if I forgot the physically impaired part this time around. That was an oversight....not a jab.

Hey, if your on the same page of Obama with the "special" people bashing then I really feel bad for you. It's in the same vein of Date rape, and cancer jokes. The poorest possible taste. You can defend his snide comment all you want, it just shows your character. With all of your "retard" talk it's pretty obvious. Good luck with your soul, your going to need it.

Hey, Oppy, congrats! Word has it you're on board for the next regular Olympics, in the Standing Faux Outrage event.

I smell GOLD!

Yessir - that's an "I'm bored, let's start some sh*t" thread.

(I've NEVER done that!)

Oh, heavens - me neither! 'Sides, everybody here is so above that sort of thing...

The I'm Bored, Let's Start Some Sh*t Thread - says what it does, does what it says!

It was like that when we got here!

KWICKO

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:34 PM

Quote:

Hey, if your on the same page of Obama with the "special" people bashing then I really feel bad for you. It's in the same vein of Date rape, and cancer jokes. The poorest possible taste. You can defend his snide comment all you want, it just shows your character. With all of your "retard" talk it's pretty obvious. Good luck with your soul, your going to need it.

Let me guess - you've never cracked a tasteless joke about... oh, I don't know... a Kennedy, maybe?

As for my "retard" talk - like Carlos Mencia says, if you're retarded, you're not offended by it, 'cause you don't get the jokes in the first place. And if you're offended, then you're not retarded.

And speaking of retards, what the hell is this supposed to mean?

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Hey, if your on the same page of Obama...

I don't know if I've ever been on the same "page of Obama", because I don't know what a page of Obama IS. But whatever floats "you're" boat, ya know what I mean? Oh. I guess you DON'T know what I mean... Are you a retard?

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

KWICKO

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:34 PM

Quote:

The I'm Bored, Let's Start Some Sh*t Thread - says what it does, does what it says!

Beauty.

KWICKO

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:44 PM

Oh, and by the way, Hyppo, when did YOU get so politically correct?

I thought the right LOATHED political correctness. I guess that's only when Rush insults Michael J. Fox, and his "phony flailing his arms", huh?

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:50 PM

Mike....I think..you destroyed him....

The laughing Chrisisall

WHOZIT

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Also, Wright never said this: "God bless America..no...God damn America! The chickens will come home to roost"!

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.

Yes he did RUE, they're played that tape over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. You never heard it?

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:58 PM

Can't a brother just finish his waffle ?

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Also, Wright never said this: "God bless America..no...God damn America! The chickens will come home to roost"!

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.
Yes he did RUE, they're played that tape over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. You never heard it?

He said " The Chickens.....are coming home .... to roost " per the 9/11 attacks.

Rev Wright's a dick.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

KWICKO

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:09 PM

Quote:

Rev Wright's a dick.

Well, yeah. So what's your excuse?

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:27 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Rev Wright's a dick.

Well, yeah. So what's your excuse?

I've got one, I'm not one. He is.

At least I've never stolen another man's wife. Wright has. Does that seem right to you?

And a man of "god", no less.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Can't a brother just finish his waffle ?

Some damn good waffles ain't they, Rappy ?

Taste a bit like crow, don't they ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Some damn good waffles ain't they, Rappy ?

Taste a bit like crow, don't they ?

-Frem

Crow ? Crows are black. Are you trying to make some sort of RACIST remark ?

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

KWICKO

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I've got one, I'm not one.

Your opinion. On both counts.

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He is.

Well, yeah - like I already said.

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At least I've never stolen another man's wife. Wright has. Does that seem right to you?

So I take it adultery is something you'd NEVER accept, then? It's ALWAYS wrong and unforgivable?

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And a man of "god", no less.

Since when do you look to such men for leadership? I hear "man of god" and all I'm thinking is that I better hide the children.

You know how to get a nun pregnant?

Dress her like an altarboy!

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

KWICKO

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Some damn good waffles ain't they, Rappy ?

Taste a bit like crow, don't they ?

-Frem

Crow ? Crows are black. Are you trying to make some sort of RACIST remark ?

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

Touché.

SERGEANTX

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:09 PM

Are there really people who watch Leno?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Are there really people who watch Leno?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

I saw it on YouTube.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Let me guess - you've never cracked a tasteless joke about... oh, I don't know... a Kennedy, maybe?

Why would I?

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As for my "retard" talk - like Carlos Mencia says, if you're retarded, you're not offended by it, 'cause you don't get the jokes in the first place. And if you're offended, then you're not retarded.

Classy.

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I guess you DON'T know what I mean... Are you a retard?

I'm not mentally challenged. Your words are as empty as your soul. Does this bother you? Are you a sociopath, because your wording indicates that sort of mentality.

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Oh, and by the way, Hyppo, when did YOU get so politically correct?

I thought the right LOATHED political correctness. I guess that's only when Rush insults Michael J. Fox, and his "phony flailing his arms", huh?

I'm not a republican.
Without Hillary, I switched sides in desperation.

The lesser of two evils. Well...it didn't work.
Now we have a president that is a complete tool, and a vice president that is a big jerk.

Any way you want to look at it, we lose.

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Yessir - that's an "I'm bored, let's start some sh*t" thread.

Not really. More of an injustice thread.

If on the campaign trail Palin or McCain said the exact same thing as Obama, they would have been crucified.

Obama says it, and everything is just peachy. Hell, there are even people on this thread siding with him. That to me is complete, unbridled, blind devotion. In other parts of the country this could be viewed as brainwashing. If Obama ever starts a doomsday cult, these zombies would be the first in line to follow him down. There are a lot of weird people out there that ready to give their life for someone they have never met. Just glad I'm not one of those people.

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:08 AM

You know what sucks? This thread is bulletproof. I am right, and if you disagree you are obviously wrong. You can't condone/defend the remark made by Obama. Well you can, but you'll just end up looking like a creep. I have actually pioneered a thread in the real world event discussions that isn't debatable.

I think a congratulations is in order.

ANTHONYT

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:51 AM

Hello,

If I heard the clip correctly, Obama compared his bowling performance to the performance of Special Olympics competitors. He suggested that he was mentally or physically challenged. It seemed like a self-deprecating remark to me, making fun of oneself.

Did I hear it wrong?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

RIVERDANCER

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:06 AM

I think you may be pushing it by implying making off-color remarks indicates a sociopath. Now, I'm fairly liberal, but I don't go much for a lot of politicaly correct hysteria. There are a lot of blanket statements that are offensive, and yet have a high percentage of truth to them. Not 100% truth, not very pretty truth, but truth. Do you censure the ones who embody the stereotype or the ones you think are tasteless for pointing it out? Do you deny the truth of anything that can be seen as offensive? Denied truth doesn't become a lie, and so that way is madness.
Sad to say, everyone has some prejudice. It might be slight, it might be almost unnoticable, it might be a guiding force in behavior, it might only be a guiding force when it comes to one group of people, it might be an ingrained and unconscious slip of a common expression, it might be fought off constantly and not always successfully, but I don't believe no one has it. When it comes to, say, the possibility of disease, there is actually a biological coding for it, the immune system sending a signal below the level of thought to avoid people who might have a disease it hasn't encountered and isn't equipped to deal with. It's true, there's been research into that very thing.
So it might not be terribly PC, but it's still true. Am I siding with him? Not particularly. Do I understand? Yes, I have slips myself, being human.

...At least the man can pick up a newspaper, perhaps even noting the name of it.

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
If I heard the clip correctly, Obama compared his bowling performance to the performance of Special Olympics competitors. He suggested that he was mentally or physically challenged. It seemed like a self-deprecating remark to me, making fun of oneself.

An excellent point.

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:08 AM

The lesser of two evils. Well...it didn't work. Now we have a president that is a complete tool, and a vice president that is a big jerk.

Any way you want to look at it, we lose.
-------------------------------------------

Hey, leave Bush and Cheney alone, they did the best they could. Besides Clinton only left them a $200 Billion-Plus surplus. Now really, what can you do with that? What are the rich gonna live on?
Now, I ask you, is that fair to the poor little rich people?

Wafflethisisall

Tawabawho?

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

If I heard the clip correctly, Obama compared his bowling performance to the performance of Special Olympics competitors. He suggested that he was mentally or physically challenged. It seemed like a self-deprecating remark to me, making fun of oneself.

Did I hear it wrong?

--Anthony

Self deprecating would be as simple as saying he is a very awkward bowler.

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by RiverDancer:
...At least the man can pick up a newspaper, perhaps even noting the name of it.

Yup, and Obama not reading from a teleprompter is a recipe for disaster. I predict we will hear much worse from him when it comes to off the cuff banter.

RIVERDANCER

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:24 AM

I love how everything else I said just slid right off you like oil from melting ice.

ANTHONYT

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:24 AM

Hello,

I must confess that I have often done something stupid, or displayed incompetence, and said, "I'm such a retard!"

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:46 AM

Hello,

If I heard the clip correctly, Obama compared his bowling performance to the performance of Special Olympics competitors. He suggested that he was mentally or physically challenged. It seemed like a self-deprecating remark to me, making fun of oneself.

Did I hear it wrong?
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Exactly. The next day when I heard there was a controversy I went to Hulu to watch the interview over again. What I heard was, as you say, a self-deprecating remark that, somehow, got blown out of proportion.

So who do you think benefits from making the president look bad?

SGG

Tawabawho?

RIVERDANCER

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I must confess that I have often done something stupid, or displayed incompetence, and said, "I'm such a retard!"

Ingrained and unconscious slip of a common expression! And, actually, not by definition an incorrect one. The word 'retard' means, essentially, slow. When you're not fast enough to get somewhere on time, you're tardy. When a substance slows the progress of something like, say, fire, it's a retardant. When you're not thinking fast enough and you do something stupid? Well. Now I understand that the word has slipped under the vast umbrella of slang, but technically the term came into being because the mentally handicapped can be... a little slow. Not pretty, not PC, still true.

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:04 AM

Yup, and Obama not reading from a teleprompter is a recipe for disaster. I predict we will hear much worse from him when it comes to off the cuff banter.
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You mean to say that Palin and McCain never read from a teleprompter?

Quel suprise!

Tawabawho?

ANTHONYT

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:13 AM

Hello,

I just noticed that the title of this thread inside the thread and the title of this thread on the main home page are different.

On the main page it says:

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 20:04 - 36 posts (36 today).
Suddenly Palin's botched Kouric interview is... kind of retarded

That's odd.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I just noticed that the title of this thread inside the thread and the title of this thread on the main home page are different.

On the main page it says:

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 20:04 - 36 posts (36 today).
Suddenly Palin's botched Kouric interview is... kind of retarded

That's odd.

--Anthony

What are you talking about???

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by RiverDancer:

Ingrained and unconscious slip of a common expression! And, actually, not by definition an incorrect one. The word 'retard' means, essentially, slow. When you're not fast enough to get somewhere on time, you're tardy. When a substance slows the progress of something like, say, fire, it's a retardant. When you're not thinking fast enough and you do something stupid? Well. Now I understand that the word has slipped under the vast umbrella of slang, but technically the term came into being because the mentally handicapped can be... a little slow. Not pretty, not PC, still true.

Creep

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
You mean to say that Palin and McCain never read from a teleprompter?

Yeah, but they can also articulate coherent speech when they don't read from it....unlike Obama.

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:

So who do you think benefits from making the president look bad?

No one. Just another black eye for the country.
When the president spites people with disabilities, it puts everyone in the United States in a bad light.

Glad you don't see it though. I wish I were immune to ugly comments from the frikkin president.

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I must confess that I have often done something stupid, or displayed incompetence, and said, "I'm such a retard!"

--Anthony

Hello,
you have outlived your usefullness on this site.
You can leave any time. You won't be missed.

OPPYH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
You know what sucks? This thread is bulletproof. I am right, and if you disagree you are obviously wrong. You can't condone/defend the remark made by Obama. Well you can, but you'll just end up looking like a creep. I have actually pioneered a thread in the real world event discussions that isn't debatable.

I think a congratulations is in order.

So yeah, anytime. I'll be waiting.

YINYANG

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I must confess that I have often done something stupid, or displayed incompetence, and said, "I'm such a retard!"

--Anthony

So, I guess you don't realize how equivocating stupidity and the mentally disabled is insulting, then. In the first place, being mentally disabled is very different from being stupid; in the second place, stupidity is generally a negative trait, which adds to the way that people generally think being "retarded" is a negative trait.

I consider "retard" as pretty much on the same level with "cunt" and "n*gg*r" in terms of how ugly they are, whether or not most people recognize it.

YINYANG

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:07 AM

Quote:
As for my "retard" talk - like Carlos Mencia says, if you're retarded, you're not offended by it, 'cause you don't get the jokes in the first place. And if you're offended, then you're not retarded.

Just what exactly is so hilarious about making fun of the mentally disabled? Seriously, I'd like to hear you (or anyone) explain that.

YINYANG

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
Palin froze when interviewed by Kouric. And everyone laughed.

Obama was interviewed by Leno, and took a low brow jab at the mentally challneged.....silence.

That thing about the Special Olypics was bad, but at least Obama realized what he'd said and apologized not too long after. Palin's interview isn't on the same level - comparing her remarks about Obama "pallin' around with terrorists" would be more apt. And, I don't remember hearing anything about her apologizing for that, although I could be wrong.

The fact that people are defending Obama's remark doesn't sit well with me, though. He recognized that what he said was wrong; why don't they?

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:50 AM

Obama didn't apologize for his remarks until the back lash had already started to come in, and his handlers told him he screwed the pooch.

Palin, despite the poor showing w/ Couric, was 100% right in describing Obama ' pallin' around w/ terrorist '. Because that's EXACTLY what he did with Ayers. I hope she never apologized for that, because she had no reason to do so.

Again, had he KNOWN it was wrong, he'd have known how it sounded, for the PRESIDENT on national t.v. to say such a thing, and quickly asked for forgiveness. He didn't, because he didn't have that kind of awareness, and doesn't actually see this as something for which he needed to apologize.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

RIPWASH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
If I heard the clip correctly, Obama compared his bowling performance to the performance of Special Olympics competitors. He suggested that he was mentally or physically challenged. It seemed like a self-deprecating remark to me, making fun of oneself.

Did I hear it wrong?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

The way I took it is that he did, indeed, mean for it to be self-deprecating, but the wording he used was poorly chosen off the cuff. There is usually one reason to go on The Tonight Show and that is to joke around with Jay Leno. It may have been okay for Robin Williams or Matt Damon to say that kind of thing (I'm just guessing here, perhaps it wouldn't), but not the sitting President of the United States. Obama was trying to be funny and the joke fell flat. Whether or not he apologized after the furor started is beside the point. He apologized, so that's that.

But this is kind of why a current President has not gone on Leno; because it's unscripted and anything could go awry. And it did. Not a huge gaffe, but a gaffe nonetheless. It's not the kind of thing where he can sit around and get cozy on a couch with an interviewer and not know, for the most part, what he's going to say. It's the same thing, in a way, with the 60 Minutes interview where he was chuckling while talking about how serious the economy is. Gallows humor? I can understand that, but HIS job is to tell us what's happening and help us understand what's going on, not crack jokes on national television. It just didn't look good in a professional sense.

Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
- Out of Gas

KWICKO

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Obama didn't apologize for his remarks until the back lash had already started to come in, and his handlers told him he screwed the pooch.

That's an outright lie, once again. Or one of your less-than-true RapFacts™.

According to the BBC:

Quote:
President Obama has apologised for a remark he made about disabled athletes during his appearance on a late night talk show.

He compared his bowling technique to watching something from the Special Olympics.

But as soon as he was back on his plane home, Mr Obama telephoned the head of the Special Olympics, Tim Shriver, to say sorry.

AS SOON AS HE WAS BACK ON HIS PLANE. In other words, BEFORE THE SHOW AIRED.

Once again, you've been proven a liar.

Oh, and if you need more sources:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7129997&page=1

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/03/obamas_special
_olympic_apology.html

Even Fox News reported it:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/20/special-olympi
cs-bowler-offers-obama-bowling-tips/

Kind of hard for the backlash to come in before the show aired...

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

KWICKO

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:05 PM

Were you all this outraged when Bush poked fun at the blind reporter?

Or when, as governor of Texas, he had retarded people EXECUTED by lethal injection?

Just curious.

I know for AuCoward, making fun of dead Canadian troops is all in light-hearted fun, and making fun of shooting pregnant Palestinian women ("one shot, two kills" is how I believe he phrased it) is all well and good. I'm just not sure I can properly gauge where the bar is in what's "funny" and okay to joke about, and what's off limits and worthy of outrage.

Or is this just so much more phony indignation?

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

RIVERDANCER

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
Quote:
Originally posted by RiverDancer:

Ingrained and unconscious slip of a common expression! And, actually, not by definition an incorrect one. The word 'retard' means, essentially, slow. When you're not fast enough to get somewhere on time, you're tardy. When a substance slows the progress of something like, say, fire, it's a retardant. When you're not thinking fast enough and you do something stupid? Well. Now I understand that the word has slipped under the vast umbrella of slang, but technically the term came into being because the mentally handicapped can be... a little slow. Not pretty, not PC, still true.

Creep

I'm so sorry that the factual definition of words offends you so. For everyone's continuing protection, perhaps all dictionaries should be put on a 'banned books' list, and maybe even burned, and dictionary.com should be blocked by anyone wanting to protect themselves and their families from offensive content on the internet. Or shut down altogether! You can never sacrifice too much in the name of political correctness.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RiverDancer:
You can never sacrifice too much in the name of political correctness.

Reading Princess Of Mars the other day & reading stuff about Native Americans like "angry red men" made me grab the white-out to change the text.

Get it? "red" men..."white" out....?

It made sense in my HEAD....

The laughing Chrisisall

ANTHONYT

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:44 PM

"What are you talking about???"

Hello,

I was commenting that last night, the title of this thread as it appeared on the main/home page was different than the correct title of this thread. I copy and pasted it so you could see. I found it odd.

The title of the thread on the thread listing last night was, "Suddenly Palin's botched Kouric interview is... kind of retarded."

I was wondering about that, because it's very strange that the title of a thread on the main page should be different than the current title of the thread.

There were two possibilities that occurred to me.

1) Someone had hacked/vandalized the site, changing the thread title as it appeared on the main page and thread listing.

2) The person who created the thread initially used one title for the thread, and then switched to a new title. But the listings did not immediately change to reflect that.

While the thread title in all areas now displays correctly, I am puzzled about what occurred. I hope this explains my puzzlement in more detail.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

ANTHONYT

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:49 PM

"Glad you don't see it though. I wish I were immune to ugly comments from the frikkin president."

"Hello,
you have outlived your usefullness on this site.
You can leave any time. You won't be missed."

Hello,

It would seem that you are equally capable of ugly comments, Sir or Madam.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Someone had hacked/vandalized the site, changing the thread title as it appeared on the main page and thread listing.

That's hardly a hack, it happens all the time.

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ANTHONYT

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:01 PM

"So, I guess you don't realize how equivocating stupidity and the mentally disabled is insulting, then. In the first place, being mentally disabled is very different from being stupid; in the second place, stupidity is generally a negative trait, which adds to the way that people generally think being "retarded" is a negative trait.

I consider "retard" as pretty much on the same level with "cunt" and "n*gg*r" in terms of how ugly they are, whether or not most people recognize it."

Hello,

First, I should confess my prejudices. I consider a mental handicap to be a generally negative trait. In my estimation, a mental handicap produces quantifiable, measurable deficiencies. These deficiencies are in fact measured, by scientists and doctors, in the process of diagnosing someone with a disability.

That having been said, I do not consider someone with a mental handicap to be 'useless' unless their handicap renders them so. They may still be able to perform ably in the service of their communities and families. Indeed, the Special Olympics exists as proof that tasks can be completed regardless of handicap. If not as well, then at least as vigorously and perhaps with even more enthusiasm.

Now, none of this excuses the idea of using a term for people that they find distasteful. I honestly never gave much thought to the word 'retard' as derogatory to the group in question. In the past few days, the word has been much publicized as an insult by related agencies, and I shall do my best to curb such speech in the future. This will take time. I have used the word often.

Our president did not use the word retard, incidentally. He compared his performance while bowling to that of a Special Olympian. And he did so much more kindly than I have in the past when regarding my own performance.

And so, as I have sinned, I can find little fault with his brief and rapidly recognized gaffe of minor proportions.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

RUE

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:08 PM

Thank you AnthonyT, for reminding me of what an honorable person is like.

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JOSSISAGOD

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Or did you MEAN to say that all Spcial Olympics participants are retards?

Mike

I would take offense at the SO retard remark (having done Special Olympics for over a decade)...if I actually cared about the RWED.

No need for a response, just putting it out there.

Fe'nos Tol
JOSSIS(Most Definitely)AGOD

Self appointed Forsaken! Been on the list for a while now!

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature.
"Look at me, I'm STUPID!" The Doctor.

KWICKO

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
"So, I guess you don't realize how equivocating stupidity and the mentally disabled is insulting, then. In the first place, being mentally disabled is very different from being stupid; in the second place, stupidity is generally a negative trait, which adds to the way that people generally think being "retarded" is a negative trait.

I consider "retard" as pretty much on the same level with "cunt" and "n*gg*r" in terms of how ugly they are, whether or not most people recognize it."

Hello,

First, I should confess my prejudices. I consider a mental handicap to be a generally negative trait. In my estimation, a mental handicap produces quantifiable, measurable deficiencies. These deficiencies are in fact measured, by scientists and doctors, in the process of diagnosing someone with a disability.

That having been said, I do not consider someone with a mental handicap to be 'useless' unless their handicap renders them so. They may still be able to perform ably in the service of their communities and families. Indeed, the Special Olympics exists as proof that tasks can be completed regardless of handicap. If not as well, then at least as vigorously and perhaps with even more enthusiasm.

Now, none of this excuses the idea of using a term for people that they find distasteful. I honestly never gave much thought to the word 'retard' as derogatory to the group in question. In the past few days, the word has been much publicized as an insult by related agencies, and I shall do my best to curb such speech in the future. This will take time. I have used the word often.

Our president did not use the word retard, incidentally. He compared his performance while bowling to that of a Special Olympian. And he did so much more kindly than I have in the past when regarding my own performance.

And so, as I have sinned, I can find little fault with his brief and rapidly recognized gaffe of minor proportions.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

I'm with Anthony - I used the word, and OVER-used it, in an attempt to "needle" Hyppo and AuCoward. Clearly I stepped over the line into outright offensiveness to those whom I actually have a great deal of respect for: YinYang, Rue, Signy, and others.

YinYang's points, especially, made me re-think WHY I laugh at Mencia's jokes about the mentally handicapped. I came to the realization that it's more an uncomfortable laugh than it is a "that's funny" laugh. Much like the "porch monkey" scene from Clerks II, it's funny because it's WRONG, and you can't believe that someone is actually saying it out loud.

You will notice, though, that I've said pretty much from the outset that it was a bone-headed remark for Obama to make, that it was a mistake, and that HOPEFULLY some good could come out of it. I still hold to that - my hope is that the Special Olympics will get so much support and money because of this that they won't know how to begin to spend it all. I'm not implying that Obama said what he said in order to shine a light on Special Olympics and MHMR causes, but that out of the bad, some good could still come.

Again, apologies to all, and peace,

Mike

ANTHONYT

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:20 PM

Hello,

On that note, I wonder if I might not comment on something I've noticed since my return to the board.

I took a break from the board because the vitriol seemed rather thick around election time, with many people arguing badly (that is to say, arguing with bad technique) due to their emotional investment in the election results. I estimated that after a short time away, things might settle down again to a low, manageable roar.

But I've noticed as I read posts that certain members of the community are being regularly and openly derided with nicknames such as 'Hippo' and 'AuCoward.'

If we are all to agree that it is polite to call someone by the name that they wish to be called (Hence, not referring to the mentally challenged as 'retards' because they don't like it) then shall we also leave off this new habit of carelessly insulting someone every time we write their name?

It seems akin to the cruel gradeschool games, like calling little Mary Poppins 'Poopyhead Poppins' because you don't like her.

I don't think that we should on the one hand strive to avoid offending one group of people, and on the other hand strive equally hard to purposefully offend other people.

Not to mention that you lose the upper hand of moral superiority when you start calling someone a boogerface, eh?

If we are to best our opponents, we must never dehumanize them, or reduce them to one-dimensional concepts of derision. Even the bad guys are people, a concept which the open-minded amongst us are charged to remember. In fact, 'even the bad guys are people' is often the essential difference of opinion between the so-called 'AuCowards' of the world and the people who oppose them. When we are reduced to name-calling, then the difference between the 'right' side and the 'wrong' side becomes quite difficult to discern.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

I know for AuCoward, making fun of dead Canadian troops is all in light-hearted fun, and making fun of shooting pregnant Palestinian women ("one shot, two kills" is how I believe he phrased it) is all well and good. I'm just not sure I can properly gauge where the bar is in what's "funny" and okay to joke about, and what's off limits and worthy of outrage.

Or is this just so much more phony indignation?

Mike

I'll take this post 1st, as I think it's important.

There's a great t.v. series on History Channel now, ' How the Earth was Made '. But what we have here is ' How a Liberal Lie is made '.

The false premise is first laid down, that being there was ANYONE making fun of "dead Canadian troops". I never did any such thing, not even remotely. The only area where Canadian Troops were even DISCUSSED on this entire forum was the FOX show - Red Eye thread, and comments directed toward the Canadian military taking some time off after its service in Afghanistan. No where in that entire story was ANYTHING said about dead, fallen, injured, wounded Canadian soldiers. The STORY WASN'T ABOUT ANY OF THAT! Another poster, misstressarah, some how added to the story the part of the fallen service men being brought home, but that was COMPLETELY outside the point of what was shown on the Red Eye show.

They weren't talking about the Canadian military in response to, in conjunction with, in addition to, or an ANY way related to the fact that any Canada's fallen heroes were being brought home and laid to rest. MISSTRESSARAHA added that on, HERSELF.

I didn't say it. None of the folks on the Red Eye show remotely dealt with it. It was completely and absolutely outside the context of what was being discussed! There was ZERO connection between the 2 stories. As Kaylee would say... " there just isn't " .

Now, the " making fun of shooting pregnant Palestinian women " comment.

Quote:
("one shot, two kills" is how I believe he phrased it)

I never said it, kwickie, so your BELIEFS are wrong. I was commenting on the story in which Israel Military t-shirts , being worn by those in the Israeli Military , showed an armed, pregnant Muslim woman , in a burka, and the caption " 1 shot , 2 kills ". I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP! It had NOTHING to do w/ me. Piratenews was the one who posted the gorram story, NOT ME! And here you have the routine twisting, distortion and fabricating out of thin air that *I* phrased that caption, when 0 % of what Kwickie says is TRUE!

This is why so many gang up on me, on conservatives, because stories get told wrong, or lies get started, and instead of dealing in the FACTS, folks simply react to what some one ELSE says, and then base their hatred or love for someone else based on those distortions!

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

PIZMOBEACH

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Thank you AnthonyT, for reminding me of what an honorable person is like.

Ditto - welcome back Mr T.!

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Were you all this outraged when Bush poked fun at the blind reporter?

Or when, as governor of Texas, he had retarded people EXECUTED by lethal injection?

Just curious.

A blind reporter ? A grown man?
If Bush really did such a thing, then shame on him. But that still doesn't excuse O for his comments against mentally challenged children.

The president said, ''We should never execute anybody who is retarded.'' He then added that ''our court system protects people who don't understand the nature of the crime they've committed.''

Maybe if you could be more specific, I could better reply. I'm not aware of ANY retarded inmates Bush had put to death. The Fed Gov't carried out a death sentence,but that was outside of Bush's influence.

Bush did carry out the death sentence of a 'alleged ' born again Christian,Karla Faye Tucker and I supported that as well. Sent the ax murderer home to Jesus sooner than she deserved, though.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

CITIZEN

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
I know for AuCoward, making fun of dead Canadian troops is all in light-hearted fun, and making fun of shooting pregnant Palestinian women ("one shot, two kills" is how I believe he phrased it) is all well and good. I'm just not sure I can properly gauge where the bar is in what's "funny" and okay to joke about, and what's off limits and worthy of outrage.

Rap didn't make fun of killing babies. He seriously and honestly said it was a good idea.

See my sig for details of his in-context and unedited remarks on the subject of baby murder.

AURaptor advocates child murder:

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=37443#687361

RUE

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:04 PM

" I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP! "

No, you just reposted it under YOUR handle, one presumes as an expression of what YOU support.

No outrage, faux or otherwise - just tacit acceptance and active dissemination - by you.

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Got it ?

RIVERDANCER

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jossisagod:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Or did you MEAN to say that all Spcial Olympics participants are retards?

I would take offense at the SO retard remark ...if I actually cared about the RWED.

It's kind of a shame that you don't care too much, since you seem to be in the unique position on this thread to respond from the point of view of the 'wronged party.' No one else here has any Special Olympian creds, at least none they've spoken up about, so I would be most interested in your full opinion about the whole controversy. However, if you don't care, you don't care, and I can fully respect and understand that.

RUE

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:38 PM

I'm not involved with the SO but I have a disabled person in the family and know many others. I don't use the word 'retard', or crip, or spaz or other such terms either. Personally, I winced a bit with what Obama said. He was only trying to make fun of himself, but it was thoughtless and unintentionally mean.

I contrast that with Bush actively making fun of a person begging for their life (execution), actively deriding a reporter wearing sunglasses (blind), executing the mentally challenged ...

That's the nice thing about Bush. He set a bar so low it'd be hard to do worse.

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Silence is consent.

KWICKO

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:12 PM

Quote:
AuRaptor wrote:
The president said, ''We should never execute anybody who is retarded.'' He then added that ''our court system protects people who don't understand the nature of the crime they've committed.''

Maybe if you could be more specific, I could better reply. I'm not aware of ANY retarded inmates Bush had put to death. The Fed Gov't carried out a death sentence,but that was outside of Bush's influence.

Bush did carry out the death sentence of a 'alleged ' born again Christian,Karla Faye Tucker and I supported that as well. Sent the ax murderer home to Jesus sooner than she deserved, though.

Here ya go. Read 'em and weep.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LOCAL/southwest/08/10/hci.bush.executions/

Yes, he executed at least five mentally retarded inmates during his tenure as governor. And he openly mocked Karla Faye Tucker, laughing while he told others how she begged, "Please don't kill me!" Mocking those on Death Row seems a bit beneath the dignity of a sitting Governor or President, wouldn't you say?

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

KWICKO

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:26 PM

Quote:

A blind reporter ? A grown man?
If Bush really did such a thing, then shame on him. But that still doesn't excuse O for his comments against mentally challenged children.

Odd that you don't remember that; it wasn't really that long ago. Maybe it wasn't covered on Limbaugh's show...

Here's the transcript, from

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_Wallsten_0614.html :

Quote:

Bush accidentally mocks blind reporter's 'shades'

RAW STORY
Published: Wednesday June 14, 2006

Exchange between United States President George W. Bush and journalist Peter Wallsten at White House Rose Garden, June 14, 2006:

PRESIDENT BUSH: Yeah, Peter. You're going to ask that question with those shades on?

PETER WALLSTEN: I can take them off --

BUSH: No, I'm interested in the shade look, seriously here.

WALLSTEN: All right. I'll keep it then.

BUSH: For the viewers, there's no sun. (Scattered laughter.)

WALLSTEN: I guess it depends on your perspective.

BUSH: (Laughs, laughter.) Touche. (Laughter.)

Peter Wallsten is blind.

So, yeah... Same kind of thing - he was trying to be funny, but came off bone-headed and insensitive, not through intentional maliciousness, but rather just a simple screw-up.

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

KWICKO

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Now, the " making fun of shooting pregnant Palestinian women " comment.

Quote:
("one shot, two kills" is how I believe he phrased it)

I never said it, kwickie, so your BELIEFS are wrong. I was commenting on the story in which Israel Military t-shirts , being worn by those in the Israeli Military , showed an armed, pregnant Muslim woman , in a burka, and the caption " 1 shot , 2 kills ". I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP! It had NOTHING to do w/ me. Piratenews was the one who posted the gorram story, NOT ME! And here you have the routine twisting, distortion and fabricating out of thin air that *I* phrased that caption, when 0 % of what Kwickie says is TRUE!

No, what YOU said wasn't those exact words, but these:

Quote:

When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

So the catchy phrasing might not have been yours, but it's certain that you share the sentiment: Kill 'em all.

Quote:
0 % of what Kwickie says is TRUE!

Even when I referred to you as "he"? So you're NOT a man? I always suspected...

[quote[This is why so many gang up on me, on conservatives, because stories get told wrong, or lies get started, and instead of dealing in the FACTS, folks simply react to what some one ELSE says, and then base their hatred or love for someone else based on those distortions!

Ah - and YOU would never EVER distort or react, eh? I suggest you go back and read your own post about the backlash and outrage against Obama's Special Olympics remarks, and how he didn't apologize until AFTER the outrage started. It's been pretty extensively reported that he called the head of the Special Olympics WELL BEFORE THE SHOW EVEN AIRED to apologize, because he and his staff realized he screwed up and there was going to be fallout from it.

I believe when I called you on your bullshit a while back, you fell back on the old "it's hyperbole" excuse. Seems it's okay for you to use hyperbolic, inflammatory rhetoric, but it's not okay when someone else does it.

Quote:

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

You've even distorted THAT quote, leaving off the key part:

"I love the guy, and I think he's gonna be great. "

See? That's how a Republican Lie - also known as a RapFact™ - is made.

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

KWICKO

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:54 PM

Quote:
AuRaptor wrote:

The false premise is first laid down, that being there was ANYONE making fun of "dead Canadian troops". I never did any such thing, not even remotely. The only area where Canadian Troops were even DISCUSSED on this entire forum was the FOX show - Red Eye thread, and comments directed toward the Canadian military taking some time off after its service in Afghanistan. No where in that entire story was ANYTHING said about dead, fallen, injured, wounded Canadian soldiers. The STORY WASN'T ABOUT ANY OF THAT! Another poster, misstressarah, some how added to the story the part of the fallen service men being brought home, but that was COMPLETELY outside the point of what was shown on the Red Eye show.

They weren't talking about the Canadian military in response to, in conjunction with, in addition to, or an ANY way related to the fact that any Canada's fallen heroes were being brought home and laid to rest. MISSTRESSARAHA added that on, HERSELF.

I didn't say it. None of the folks on the Red Eye show remotely dealt with it. It was completely and absolutely outside the context of what was being discussed! There was ZERO connection between the 2 stories.

Mistress closed her post with this:

Quote:
And yes, I realize this isn't the mindset of all Americans..... but people up here are really - really pissed.

In other news, Canada has brought home 3 more dead fighting in Afghanistan.

Master Cpl. Scott Francis Vernelli (28), Cpl. Tyler Crooks (24), Trooper Jack Bouthillier (20) and Trooper Corey Joseph Hayes (22) were killed Friday in two roadside bomb blasts in Kandahar province. Eight Canadian soldiers were also wounded. (Department of National Defence)

RIP. And thank you.

to which you responded:

Quote:

That's some funny stuff.Red Eye is an over night, light hearted , off beat program that basically pokes fun at everything. I don't think I've seen them once treat any story seriously. That's kinda the point.

Hey Canada, lighten up, eh?

So, yes, it certainly seems as though you're telling her to "lighten up, eh" in regards to their fallen soldiers being brought home - AND in regards to Fox making fun of their military, saying things like "it's time to invade that ridiculous country".

So, yeah - it sure seems like you were poking fun at Canada and Mistress's sadness over her fallen heroes. "Hey, it's all light-hearted fun! Lighten up, eh?" It comes across as pretty crass and bone-headed.

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

RUE

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:12 PM

Ehhh - he's gone. Scurried away.

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AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
" I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP! "

No, you just reposted it under YOUR handle, one presumes as an expression of what YOU support.

No outrage, faux or otherwise - just tacit acceptance and active dissemination - by you.

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Got it ?

And you just showed you're being a troll, and nothing else.

You are no longer a part of any serious conversation here. Dismissed.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

RUE

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:16 PM

So, thanks to Mike we all have the quote:

"When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill."

Tell us you didn't type this. Tell us you didn't mean it. Tell us you didn't advocate killing babies. Tell us you are OUTRAGED !! over this.

C'mon. I dare you.

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Silence is consent.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:19 PM

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So, yes, it certainly seems as though you're telling her to "lighten up, eh" in regards to their fallen soldiers being brought home

No, not even remotely. She didn't 'end' the post w/ her outrage over the Red Eye cracking on the Canadian military, SHE STARTED WITH IT!!

Fox News mocks the Canadian military

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=37475

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AND in regards to Fox making fun of their military, saying things like "it's time to invade that ridiculous country".

Sorry, flat out wrong again. It wasn't FOX, but the HOST of the show. He was commenting on the absurdity of a nation's military taking a vacation, and that the only way the could even DO such a thing would be if they had us as their next door neighbor, the most powerful military in the world.

I'll not waste any more time on this. I've dressed down the misguided and misplaced outrage.

Why are we still talking about this ? There's nothing to discuss!

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

RIVERDANCER

Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:25 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
In my estimation, a mental handicap produces quantifiable, measurable deficiencies. These deficiencies are in fact measured, by scientists and doctors, in the process of diagnosing someone with a disability.

Another one of those stubborn 'truth' things. While I commend you in every way possible, I'm getting the impression that the stubborn, unpretty truths are to be diligently ignored until they go away. Oh, wait, they're too stubborn to go away, so they'll have to be ignored for perpetuity. The term 'mental retardation' which was no doubt first chosen to avoid the more insulting 'slow' while meaning the same thing will doubtless be replaced by another term, longer and more complicated, until people figure out it means essentially the same thing and the process starts all over again so no one will take offense.

ANTHONYT

Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:29 AM

Hello River,

On the one hand, it does seem our society has a way of renaming things to obscure meanings and to serve the politics of the day. That is lamentable.

On the other hand, people have every right to choose the name that they will be called. It is rude to ignore their preferences. It is on this basis that I seek to change my ways.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner