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Post your coimments about tonight's Dollhouse episode, 'The Target'

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UPDATED: Thursday, February 26, 2009 23:55
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Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:42 PM

A lot of people seem to be rushing to judgment on this show, especially as regards the pilot episode. It seems they want the entire premise spelled out solid and direct during the first ten minutes. . .

The problem here is that they're viewing these episodes as if they were short stories, intended to be read independently of each other. Instead, they are are chapters in what Joss obviously hopes will be a long, complex, and subtle novel -- or series of novels. . . Here's hoping he gets the time to tell the first volume's worth at least.

Okay,change of subject/random speculation: What if the Dollhouse is telling the truth to their employees about Alpha being dead -- the truth so far as they know, that is.

Consider that you're dealing with technology that can record/upload/download entire personality and memory gestalts. Given a supply of blank bodies to imprint, this is effective immortality. Alpha might have seen the loss of his first body as no more hindering than dumping a hot car.

What if Alpha isn't a person -- but a pattern?

"You can't kill a Ghost." -- Echo

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Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:58 PM

They seemed to throw the kitchen sink at us last night, and it did not disappoint. I really don't understand everything that came jolting at us, but it was beautiful to watch. I'm a fan.

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Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:39 AM

Hey RocketJ

I appreciate what you're saying but, no I don't expect for Joss to spell out the entire premise "during the first ten minutes. . .

What I was referring to was Joss's uncanny ability to set things up so we get the character's motivation, or, at least, what drives them. I actually look forward to JW's style of storytelling which is perfect for television because his strength is episodic storytelling.

He gives you clues as to the character's story and motivation and, like a jigsaw puzzle, it is fun to figure out. This ep was more interesting because it wasn't treated like an episode of CSI:Miami (which blows chunks).

BTW, interesting theory on the Alpha character.

SGG

Tawabawho?

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Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:32 AM

The base plot of the manhunt is taken from the short story "The Most Dangerous Game" made into a film in 1932. I forgot the title, but our Embers knew it. I give Embers ten stars for knowing that one.

But the relationship between Echo and Harry Lennix is getting interesting. I think we are going to slowly learn about Caroline's and Harry's past as the series moves forward. They may never have known each other, but they are building a bound. In only the second episode Echo says to Harry, "Do you trust me?" Evidently he did. So I am going to keep an eye on Harry, because he going to go through changes alongside Echo.

Echo is proving to be very smart and also a survivor. They may have erased her memories, but the her personality is still there.

They next thing is Alpha. A lot of questions there.


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Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:34 PM

What if...

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Echo is Alpha, or rather, Alpha is a ghost in the machine that downloads itself...

Sort of the Angel goes Evil-Then-Back-To-Good Theme?

Or rather Faith goes Deja Vu?


Eliza Dushku advert for Hulu:

Quote:

"It'll simmer your headmeat down to a bubbling brainy fondu."


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Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:29 PM

So you owned a farm to hunt wild boars in a pen? It seems like a real democrat's sport where even a democrat could hit an animal trapped in a pen.



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Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by freelancertex:
teehee, Mark Sheppard was on last week's episode of Burn Notice too XD it was great. The bf couldn't understand why I fell out of my chair screaming "IT'S BADGER!!!" when I saw him.

haven't seen dollhouse yet but glad to hear it's doin' better than last week >< gotta catch up on Hulu :P




Right there with you, I sat up a little straighter when I saw him and was half expecting a Dyton colony/cockneyed accent.

The last thirty seconds of this episode: EXCELLENCE. Just that one gesture. So much to be drawn from that and wondered about, as tying in to the greater over all plot.

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Monday, February 23, 2009 12:51 AM

Lemme just repeat what I said in the other Dollhouse thread:

Yep, it was pretty good. :)

As expected and hoped for, round two weren't just Echo on another assigmnent: that would make our doll dull. Also, would appear Joss found a neat (and necessary) way to develop and deepen our understanding of who Echo is. The, erm, echo of River's "What am I?" seems hard to overlook.

Echo -- and I think I already mentioned this -- is very attractive. And a damn fine actress to boot (or reboot, as the case may be). Still, I hope we get to see some of other 'Actives', well, active. :) For now I'm perfectly happy with Echo, though.

From the get-so I've endeavored to think nothing but good of the show, because Joss, I believe, deserves our support on this. After all, like the man said, "Nothing is good or bad, but thinking makes it so."


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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

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Monday, February 23, 2009 1:31 AM

Was anybody else reminded of SlayerFest '98? And I mean that in a good way:)

Props to Steven DeKnight (writer and director). He did some great work on Angel, and looks like he will be doing the same on Dollhouse!

~lissa

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Monday, February 23, 2009 2:18 AM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
What if...

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Echo is Alpha, or rather, Alpha is a ghost in the machine that downloads itself...



lmao, dude, are you referencing Red vs Blue there, or did you seriously just think of that on your own? XD

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