About Spike's Soul
POSTED BY: Haken
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 13:32
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Let's distinguish between speculation and spoilers. Speculation doesn't require spoiler tags. And everything that's been said here that isn't speculation is just basic background stuff. You have to get into the actual story before it becomes a spoiler.
Anway, if we're gonna worry about spoilers, we should be more courteous to fans in the UK, who haven't seen Season 6 yet. Thus the title of this thread is uncool, spoilerwise!
As for Sunnydale High staffing issues: Obviously Buffy is the new lunch lady. I mean, she's got prior experience! Think of the humorous situations when Dawn comes into the cafeteria with her friends.
And I don't think it takes a genius to figure out who the new librarian is. Wonder if it's still right over the Hellmouth. Would make sense to move it.
If Spike isn't fully human, than I guess he doesn't turn back into William the Bloody Awful. Kind of a relief...
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Speculation doesn't require spoiler tags. And everything that's been said here that isn't speculation is just basic background stuff
Spoiler-free speculation is all good, but the previous posts are not spoiler-free. "Basic background stuff" (read: Buffy's career plans as told by Joss) are spoilers.
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You have to get into the actual story before it becomes a spoiler.
Though I would agree that next season's tone is background and doesn't need a spoiler, you can't know how the DMP thing will be handled through story, if at all. It's a de facto story point unless we know otherwise.
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Anway, if we're gonna worry about spoilers, we should be more courteous to fans in the UK, who haven't seen Season 6 yet. Thus the title of this thread is uncool, spoilerwise!
I believe most everybody in the UK has seen season 6. Anyone who hasn't this long after the US airdate (and main UK airdate) explores message boards at their own risk. Also, I might have argued that a spoiler warning in the thread title would be enough and free people to post w/o spoiler text, but there's that tricky business of linear mode.
No more spoilers ... must have control ... I suppose I check the spoilerslayer just one more time and then that's it. No more...
--- Joe
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Originally posted by mojoeca:
No more spoilers ... must have control ... I suppose I check the spoilerslayer just one more time and then that's it. No more...
--- Joe
I know exactly what you mean. Usually, at the beginning of a season, I fall into spoiler city... but I really hate plot spoilers. The early stuff is usually background spoilage, which I don't mind, but it's hard to give them up once the plot spoilers start rolling in!
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
"Nice guys can only get so mad." Fillion on Mal
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Quote::sigh icon: I never paid attention to spoilers until Buffy did that big swan dive. Then I started going crazy trying to figure out how they'd bring her back. Which actually turned out to be not that big a deal. But I haunted spoilerslayer.com up until May. But no more!
Originally posted by Novagrass:
I know exactly what you mean. Usually, at the beginning of a season, I fall into spoiler city... but I really hate plot spoilers. The early stuff is usually background spoilage, which I don't mind, but it's hard to give them up once the plot spoilers start rolling in!
You know it's funny. I might have mentioned that I wasn't a fan until Hush. More specifically, I left my VCR to record a bunch of shows, including Buffy, and left the tape in the machine for over a week, when I was too busy at work to watch TV. So I missed all those "Not a word will be spoken..." promos. So when Buffy came back from brushing her teeth, I hadn't the slightest idea what was about to happen. Which made what happened next pretty damned startling. Rather enhanced my enjoyment of the episode.
Sometimes the worst spoilers are the network promos.
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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Sometimes the worst spoilers are the network promos.
Oh, especially the one for Angel's season finale! They *totally* gave away the cliffhanger ending. I think the episode would have sucked less had I not known Angel was going to be sunk to the bottom of the ocean.
*sigh* yet another reason I'm glad Buffy moved to UPN. I can live with the episode previews that have almost nothing to do with the actual episode.
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
"Nice guys can only get so mad." Fillion on Mal
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Sometimes the worst spoilers are the network promos.
Ain't that the truth? Not to mention, they say some REALLY stupid things trying to get you interested in the show.
My all time least favorite Buffy promo were the ones for the finale. "Hell hath no fury.... LIKE A WICCAN SCORNED!"
So, I know that in Joss-verse, Wiccan means "withcy spell girl"... but Wiccanism is actually a ... I don't want to say religion ... but it is definitely a belief system, a lifestyle. It doesn't actually mean spell casting evil witch girl.
I think a lot of people don't understand the idea of Wiccans. I am a Pagan, but not a Wiccan. When I tell someone I'm Pagan, they typically hear "Wiccan". I know that the show is not real, and that they make up most of their demons and rituals, but I wish they didn't misuse Wiccan so much.
(One of my pet peeves... sorry for the rant)
Bunch of wanna blessed be's. Nowadays every girl with a henna tattoo and a spice rack thinks she's a sister to the dark ones.
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Well, we'd better not nitpick Joss's semantics too much. Don't get me started on "dimension"! Help, the Earth is being invaded by creatures from the vertical axis!
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Back to Spike and his, uh, issues. I think the main reason people prefer to think of Spike as a good guy is that he's played by James Marsters. Who everybody loves. How can they not? He's one of those actors who, as they say, you'd pay to watch recite the phone book.
But Marsters is not Spike. No matter how lovable he acts, remember: he's evil, evil, EVIL!
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Is he really evil. So evil you would say he was "EEville"? Like he is the "Fru-its of the De-vil. EEville"?
Help me out here, Spock. I don't speak loser.
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He doesn't have a soul! Or didn't. Of course, now all bets are off.
I read somewhere that Spike was supposed to get staked in Season 2. You-know-who couldn't bear to do it, he was just too much fun to write about.
Maybe that's one of the things that went wrong with S6. There was all this sympathy building up for Spike, and they decided they had to remind us that he is, as he himself says, a monster. But when you slam on the brakes like that, it's all too easy to hit the wall.
So anyway, now there are two of them. Wonder if this is the start of a trend?
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