Do Androids Dream of Purloined Unicorns?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Sunday, February 1, 2009 04:48
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quite right.
My main assumption of his non-replicant-ness came when Bryant indicated that he'd had a history employing Deck, and I conjured replicants hadn't been perfected to the point of completely and utterly passing for human a decade or so prior to November 2019.
The theorizing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
That's interesting and true about Rachel, although we really don't know her potential strength. After Dekkard outed Rachel with VK, Tyrell said that Rachel was just an experiment, nothing more....which leads me to believe that Tyrell Corp had focused up to that point on off-world replicants for work and sex. Why make a Dekkard to kill off your product then?
Both good points. As I said, I tend to prefer to think of Deck as a human.
But in the spirit of speculation...
You could say that Deckard, while not physically enhanced, is enhanced in other ways, mainly in his detective skills.
As to Bryant, and his implied history with Deckard, let's assume for a moment that he is a replicant. In that case, it's pretty clear Gaff knows the truth, so it follows that Bryant would, too. So, his mention of a history could be just part of the manipulation - a lie to support the false memories.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:I could see making an extermination model, but not one a pleasure model could kick the ass of.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Why make a Dekkard to kill off your product then?
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:No way, Bryant was clearly desperate to have a repetition of that level of performance AGAIN from the old Blade Runner.
Originally posted by Storymark:
let's assume for a moment that he is a replicant. In that case, it's pretty clear Gaff knows the truth, so it follows that Bryant would, too. So, his mention of a history could be just part of the manipulation - a lie to support the false memories.
But it was worth postulating.
The almost-bought-it Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Was it not filmed by Ridley himself?
Originally posted by Storymark:
Quibble all you like Chris, with your obvious knowlegde of the film, you know darn well why that ending was tacked on, and what the intent was.
Hmmm, I think it was...
And yeah, you're right, the intent was to send the audience away feeling not-as-bad... And I myself have nothing against a little sunlight after such a dreary atmo; they still didn't escape to happyland or anything.
The qualifying Chrisisall
Yes, because they were going to do it with or without him.
And sure, it's not like they escape to Candyland, but it still flies in the face of the tone and style of the movie.
Let's remeber it partially consists of outtakes from the Shining.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:No way, Bryant was clearly desperate to have a repetition of that level of performance AGAIN from the old Blade Runner.
Originally posted by Storymark:
let's assume for a moment that he is a replicant. In that case, it's pretty clear Gaff knows the truth, so it follows that Bryant would, too. So, his mention of a history could be just part of the manipulation - a lie to support the false memories.
But it was worth postulating.
The almost-bought-it Chrisisall
Ah, but perhaps he was not the first Deckard?
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:LOL, only the final shots.
Originally posted by Storymark:
Let's remeber it partially consists of outtakes from the Shining.
"Hey Kubrick, are ya usin' this?"
"What? Whatever, I'm busy!"
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:Ahhh Story, now yer makin' my brain hurt.
Originally posted by Storymark:
Ah, but perhaps he was not the first Deckard?
*falls down dizzy with story possibilities*
The frazzled Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Ahhh Story, now yer makin' my brain hurt.
Originally posted by Storymark:
Ah, but perhaps he was not the first Deckard?
*falls down dizzy with story possibilities*
The frazzled Chrisisall
That's the key. He's not a replicant....
He's a Cylon.
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The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
This discussion has happened before, and will happen again.
The laughing Chrisisall
Ya got me. Can't think of a way to top that one.
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