Do Androids Dream of Purloined Unicorns?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Sunday, February 1, 2009 04:48
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Of course it was. The guy was going over budget and over schedule. Many a night went by where they shot nothing. That after spending hours setting a shot up.
Fast forward twenty years and his re-cut added little to my mind that say's his control would have produced anything better. Especially as now there is a 2nd director's cut. What was wrong with his original cut in the 90's? He had control over that version didn't he?
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No. The studio just tacked on "Director's Cut", because the term was in vogue. I think his involvment with that one was a phonecall. The 90's DC is essentially the workprint version, with a unicorn added.
And while I can understand taking control from him at a point, due to overruns, that still doesn't justify forcing the voiceover or "happy ending" on there.
Nor does it mean he's indecisive for not getting to do it the way he had planned.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Dekkard was not a replicant because he got the crap beat out of him by the other replicants. If he was a replicant he would not have bled the way he did, or had broken fingers, or emotions, or perspiration, or an ex-wife, or a job with the Police....and many other reasons why that theory is just silly.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
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No. The studio just tacked on "Director's Cut", because the term was in vogue. I think his involvment with that one was a phonecall. The 90's DC is essentially the workprint version, with a unicorn added.
..and the voice over removed, and that rings true - there were a lot of those Directors Cuts around then.
Quote:No it doesn't , but it was done by a bunch who weren't Ridley. They were desperate. It's not a surprise they did that.
And while I can understand taking control from him at a point, due to overruns, that still doesn't justify forcing the voiceover or "happy ending" on there.
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Nor does it mean he's indecisive for not getting to do it the way he had planned.
Perhaps not. But he still had the majority say for most of the production. It's really only the voice over that he had nothing to do with.
I just wish he/they whom so ever they are would just let it go now.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Dekkard was not a replicant because he got the crap beat out of him by the other replicants. If he was a replicant he would not have bled the way he did, or had broken fingers, or emotions, or perspiration, or an ex-wife, or a job with the Police....and many other reasons why that theory is just silly.
Rachel showed no enhanced strength, either. And we know she was one.
Just indicates they made some models without the enhanced abilities, which plays perfectly into the notion that they were experimenting with replicants that were indistinguishable from humans, even to themselves.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:*RANT ALERT*
Originally posted by Storymark:
that still doesn't justify forcing the voiceover or "happy ending" on there.
"Happy ending"???
Where they escaped to a far away land, no longer hunted, with jobs waiting, and affordable replicant-friendly housing?
I must have missed that part.
'Cause, ya see, from my viewing of that version, I only saw them enjoy some country road in the sunlight before the real, hard work of surviving in a world that has suddenly become unthinkably hostile towards them begins.But, your mileage obviously varies.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Storymark:Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Dekkard was not a replicant because he got the crap beat out of him by the other replicants. If he was a replicant he would not have bled the way he did, or had broken fingers, or emotions, or perspiration, or an ex-wife, or a job with the Police....and many other reasons why that theory is just silly.
Rachel showed no enhanced strength, either. And we know she was one.
Just indicates they made some models without the enhanced abilities, which plays perfectly into the notion that they were experimenting with replicants that were indistinguishable from humans, even to themselves.
That's interesting and true about Rachel, although we really don't know her potential strength. After Dekkard outed Rachel with VK, Tyrell said that Rachel was just an experiment, nothing more....which leads me to believe that Tyrell Corp had focused up to that point on off-world replicants for work and sex. Why make a Dekkard to kill off your product then?
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
*RANT ALERT*
"Happy ending"???
Where they escaped to a far away land, no longer hunted, with jobs waiting, and affordable replicant-friendly housing?
I must have missed that part.
But, your mileage obviously varies.
The laughing Chrisisall
Quibble all you like Chris, with your obvious knowlegde of the film, you know darn well why that ending was tacked on, and what the intent was.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:Quite right.
Originally posted by Storymark:
Rachel showed no enhanced strength, either. And we know she was one.
My main assumption of his non-replicant-ness came when Bryant indicated that he'd had a history employing Deck, and I conjured replicants hadn't been perfected to the point of completely and utterly passing for human a decade or so prior to November 2019.
The theorizing Chrisisall
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Quote:Was it not filmed by Ridley himself?
Originally posted by Storymark:
Quibble all you like Chris, with your obvious knowlegde of the film, you know darn well why that ending was tacked on, and what the intent was.
Hmmm, I think it was...
And yeah, you're right, the intent was to send the audience away feeling not-as-bad... And I myself have nothing against a little sunlight after such a dreary atmo; they still didn't escape to happyland or anything.
The qualifying Chrisisall
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