Why I believe Tomorrow Never Dies is the best Bond flick of all time:

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, January 29, 2009 22:26
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CHRISISALL

Monday, January 26, 2009 3:32 PM

1) Brosnan, a great Bond.
2) No silly Batman-esque trap where he's left to die & no one sticks around to make sure.
3) Great music, some of the best.
4) Strongest female lead since Pussy Galore, and a better fighter!
5) Bond sitting there with vodka & a gun ready for the worst- CLASSIC!
6) Sincere regret, the most you'll ever see out of Bond, at the killing of Paris in his room.
7) Supervillain with realistic means to an insane end.
8) No invisible car, phony rear screens, or shoot out in a space station.
9) Excellent final confrontation & fight scene!
10) No throw-away female characters (always bugged me, like Kissy Suzuki- make love to her, see her killed, move on to the next warm body without pause...)

Thoughts?

The cinematic Chrisisall

BYTEMITE

Monday, January 26, 2009 4:52 PM

I think Pierce Brosnan was underrated as Bond, although the last movie he did was an absolute mess.

I liked GoldenEye, a rogue MI6 agent? Nice.

If Tomorrow Never Dies was the one in China, I like that one too.

I like the move back to dark in the new Daniel Craig movies, I think it gives the series some credibility and revitalized the franchise. I give them credit there. But Daniel Craig feels like a very wooden Bond to me.

And I'm also one of the few people that don't think that being first automatically makes Sean Connery the best. He had the humour that Daniel Craig often lacks that should be present in the character... But Sean Connery just played Bond too damn NICE. I do honestly think Pierce Brosnan was a better Bond than Connery, he's a pretty boy but you have to take him more seriously too, and all the snide/dark humour delivery was there.

I have to withhold my judgement until I see the other Bonds though.

OPPYH

Monday, January 26, 2009 4:57 PM

I think Goldeneye is Brosnan's best Bond.
Tomorrow Never Dies is a lot of fun though.

Want to talk underrated Bond...License To Kill with Timothy Dalton. He may not have been the best Bond, but it's quite an interesting movie.

STORYMARK

Monday, January 26, 2009 5:00 PM

TND has grown on me over the years, and is probably my second favorite Brosnan, but it still has some problems that keep it from being great for me. Cheifly, the villain, realistic motive or not, it wasn't a very cinematic one, and Pryce was simply not threatening in any sense of the word. Even his henchmen were pretty underwhelming.

There was a rather non-Bondian reliance on automatic weapons that bothered me. Mr. "One shot one kill" tranformed into Mr. "Flood the room with bullets, and hope something is hit" which detracted from the vibe for me.

I also really disliked Teri Hatcher.

And Connery played him as too nice?? He was known for cold-blooded murder on a much more frequernt basis than any other.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 26, 2009 5:05 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
But Daniel Craig feels like a very wooden Bond to me.

Me too.

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Sean Connery just played Bond too damn NICE.

See Dr. No where he shot a dead guy in the ass just to make sure....not so nice.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 26, 2009 5:09 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
I think Goldeneye is Brosnan's best Bond.

I might have said that a while back, but I just saw it the other day, & that bad FX skydive to the plane in the beginning just sticks in my craw...Onnatop is one of THE best bad girls, though.
Oh, and the Russian guys speaking English in Russian accents thing REALLY irks me...

The technical Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 26, 2009 5:13 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Even his henchmen were pretty underwhelming.

I disagree, Stamper was fairly menacing, IMO. Yah?

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There was a rather non-Bondian reliance on automatic weapons that bothered me.

Funny, that thought never crossed my mind. Perhaps because of the scene where he waited with the vodka & the gun- just the PPK- to take care of business.

The spot-on Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 26, 2009 5:23 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:

I liked GoldenEye, a rogue MI6 agent? Nice.

Alec was MIA for 9 years, but actually alive and no one in the intelligence community heard ANY grumblings about it? Did he just sit in a cellar somewhere letting his hate of 007 fester? That's the one hole in that flick for me...now if he'd been gone for a year or two...

The over-analytical Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 26, 2009 6:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
But Daniel Craig feels like a very wooden Bond to me.

Funny, I just read a review where this dude refers to Craig as "Pissy emo Bond". LOL.

The laughing Chrisisall

BYTEMITE

Monday, January 26, 2009 6:29 PM

In regards to Sean Connery, I meant less his methods and more how he talks with his potential allies. He's calm, approachable, and sympathetic, more so than I feel like the other two Bonds I'm familiar with.

My impression of Bond from the books is that he's more intimidation, "I'll do what I'm told, but I'll do it MY way," or in the case of women, pure magnetism.

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