Did Bush say this or not?
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"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."
"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pieceofpaper.php?q=pieceofpa
per.php
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_president_bush_call_the_cons
titution_a.html
http://debunker.typepad.com/boulderblog/2005/12/bush_constituti.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR
2006112901267&start=1741
So, true quote or false concoction?
The searching Chrisisall
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One site i checked said they pulled it, for lack of verification.
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This article has been removed from our database because the source could not be verified.
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" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:I actually can't seem to verify it 100% on any site; it's more like hearsay. Sure, peeps are on record saying they heard Bush say it, but that's not like a transcript or a recording...looks like I have to concede that you may right on this one, AU!
Originally posted by AURaptor:
One site i checked said they pulled it, for lack of verification.
The diminished Chrisisall
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Thanks Chris.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:
"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."
"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pieceofpaper.php?q=pieceofpa
per.php
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_president_bush_call_the_cons
titution_a.html
http://debunker.typepad.com/boulderblog/2005/12/bush_constituti.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR
2006112901267&start=1741
So, true quote or false concoction?
It was in a Cabinet-level staff meeting...You can't really expect it to be available on tape...Or , even in a transcript form...Not yet , anyway...
Considering how very-much-in-character the attribution seems , I find it plausible...
I used to have some docs concerning this quotation , but I don't any more...
My recollection is that it was a Justice Department attorney that the ire was directed against , but it will require some further digging to produce verification...
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There is this , which pretty much concurs with my angle on the quote :
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Dec05/Leupp1214.htm
And This :
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/12/09/bush-constitution-just-a-go
ddamned-piece-of-paper/
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'...For the President of the United States to verbally wipe the floor with the Constitution and curse it in the way Bush has and it go virtually unreported serves as an indication of the threat America is facing today from an Elite power structure that cares nothing for the country it has usurped and is hell bent on centralizing power globally and undermining the principles America was founded on.
The US is a Constitutional Republic, yet to Bush's handlers, the globalist Neocons, that is not part of the agenda. In an entirely Orwellian fashion they have attempted to change the meaning of "Democracy" and adopt it as a form of governance to fit their agenda. The word democracy originates from three Greek words meaning "the people", "to rule," and the suffix ía; the term therefore means "rule by the people" by which is meant rule by the majority.
The framers of the U.S. Constitution were notably cognizant of what they perceived as a danger of majority rule in oppressing freedom of the individual or "Tyranny of the majority". For example, James Madison, in Federalist Paper No. 10 advocates a republic over a democracy precisely to protect the individual from the majority. However, at the same time, the framers carefully created democratic institutions and major open society reforms within the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. They kept what they believed were the best elements of democracy, but mitigated by a balance of power and a layered federal structure.
So the word "democracy" refers solely to direct democracy, whilst a representative democracy where representatives of the people govern in accordance with a constitution is a Republic.'
http://infowars.net/articles/december2005/121205neocons.htm
Chris , did you know that asking questions like this likely means that you're a terrorist ? 
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Constitution, I thought we were an empire. Hmm I guess I was wrong. Alright back to Reno.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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The original source of that quote was Wayne Madsen, a guy I trust even *LESS* than Alex Jones or Mike Rivero cause he's deliberately shovelled proven disinformation and even resorted to "poisoning the well" tactics on occasion.
I'm sure PN ain't got much nice to say about his ass neither.
Ergo, I would not take the exact quote as any kind of valid, Chris... but spoken or not, the current administration clearly feels that way.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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The preponderance of the evidence is that it is TRUE. "Preponderance of evidence" is the burden of proof (51%) in civil trials, and for probable cause in criminal arrests. Bush failed to sue for defamation, which would require him to testify under oath, and allow subpoena of eyewitnesses. Bush perped millions of felonies in violation of the Constitution, so that circumstantial evidence proves this a TRUE beyond a reasonable doubt (95% certain), the burden of proof to convict in a criminal case.
Here's the original article. The reporter, Doug Thompson, is a long-time journalist with DC connections, and is the founder of Capitol Hill Blue. This piece appeared in “The Rant” section, quoting eyewitnesses in the White House.
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www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml
Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.
Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.
GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.
“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, heh heh heh, just so long as I'm the dictator, heh heh heh."
—George Bush Jr
"This sucker (USA) is going DOWN!"
—George Bush Jr, re his $5-Trillion bankrobbery for Jewish Wall Street and international banksters
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2008/10/jews-gone-wild-this-sucker-a
merika-is.html
"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, no question about it."
—George Bush Jr
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
-George W Bush, Nashville, Tennessee, Sept 17, 2002
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."
-George W Bush, Gridiron Dinner, March 2001
"If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.”
—President George H. W. Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire, conversation with US Army Intelligence agent and White House press corps Sarah McClendon, December 1992
Bush Drinking Again? Downs "Pisco Sour" In Peru - Nov 2008
www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/25/bush-drinking-again-downs_n_146453.h
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Bush drunk at Olympic Games Beijing 2008
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Bush reported to be drinking heavily
By Wayne Madsen, US National Security Agency
Online Journal Contributing Writer
www.waynemadsenreport.com
Dec 5, 2008
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Quote:Oh, I can totally believe he said it, I'm just saying we can't treat it as an absolute fact he said it...AURaptor was saying he dealt only with facts, and I said that I did too, yet upon examination, I find that many of my facts are actually opinions based on available evidence, not *hard cold facts*.
Originally posted by out2theblack:
Considering how very-much-in-character the attribution seems , I find it plausible...
The re-e-val-u-ating Chrisisall
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Quote:Okay, so he DID actually say that...
Originally posted by piratenews:
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, heh heh heh, just so long as I'm the dictator, heh heh heh."
—George Bush Jr
The hmmmmmmm Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Okay, so he DID actually say that...
Originally posted by piratenews:
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, heh heh heh, just so long as I'm the dictator, heh heh heh."
—George Bush Jr
The hmmmmmmm Chrisisall
No argument from me on that one.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Could we ethically construe his "I am the Decider" statement to mean his thinks the Constitution is "just a piece of paper"? I know its a stretch.............
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Just the facts, m'am, just the facts.
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No offense, I think this sort of thread is divisive.
You can only succeed in cornering someone into defending Bush, something no one, not even Auraptor, really wants to do.
It reminds me of that interview with Jon Stewart and Huckabee. He tried to corner him on gay marriage. Imagine what kind of political suicide it would be for a democrat to say "I think abortion is infanticide" even if they really believed it. They could never say it. Gnaw that over, and you'll grasp what I'm saying about cornered.
Cornering people is divisive, because it forces them to cling to the extreme or admit defeat to the other side and simultaneously alienate everyone on their side.
We all hate Bush, most people can't say it. From now on, I'm just going kibitz more briefly anything I think is inappropriate, ie., just leads to divisiveness, conflict, offending people or forcing those defensive walls to go up.
If Auraptor as an ally disturbs some people, just picture this: The US has Saudi Arabia as an ally. In fact, there's not a power in the world that doesn't have a situation that bad or worse. No one mentions this, and I hesitate two, because I'm really a great admirer of the Islamic Revolution (shocked? So is the National Review. It's not a rare position for right wingers to hold, they just can't say it) but here's Iran's weakest point: They have Robert Mugabe as an ally.
China's weakest: Kim Jong Il, with Hugo Chavez as a close second.
Next to any of these people, Auraptor is a saint. Count yourself lucky.
:)
Peace out
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Quote:Got a link for that?
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
We all hate Bush
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
We all hate Bush
But I hate Bush less than I hate Gore and Kerry, or put together, Gorry.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Dreamtrove - I *tried* that, and for a good long while too, we're talkin above and beyond the call...
He wasn't havin none of it.
And even *my* patience is finite.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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